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Forget What the Pundits Tell You, Coastal Cities are Old News - itís the Sunbelt thatís Booming
The Daily Beast ^ | March 1 , 2014 | Joel Kotkin

Posted on 03/01/2014 3:59:25 PM PST by Hojczyk

While traditional big cities are struggling, the Sunbelt cities like Houston and Phoenix are booming. If trends continue, the Sunbelt will keep growing as the coasts decline.

Since 2010, according to an American Community Survey by demographer Wendell Cox, over one million people have moved to the Sunbelt mostly from the Northeast and Midwest.

Any guesses for the states that have gained the most domestic migrants since 2010? The Sunbelt dominates the top three: Texas, Florida and Arizona. And who’s losing the most people? Generally the states dearest to the current ruling class: New York, Illinois, California and New Jersey. Some assert this reflects the loss of poorer, working class folks to areas while the “smart” types continue to move to the big cities of Northeast and California. Yet, according to American Community Survey Data for 2007 to 2011, the biggest gainers of college graduates, according to Cox, have been Texas, Arizona and Floria; the biggest losers are in the Northeast (New York), the Midwest (Illinois and Michigan)

Combined with basics like lower housing costs and taxes, it’s a common optimism about the future that really underlies the resurgence now occurring from Phoenix to Tampa. The long-term shifts in American power and influence that have been underway since the 1950s have not been halted by the housing bust. Disdained by urban aesthetes, hated by much of the punditry, and largely ignored except for their failings in the media, the Sunbelt seems likely to enjoy the last laugh when it comes to shaping the American future.

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1 posted on 03/01/2014 3:59:25 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Unfortunately, many of these newcomers bring their liberal voting patterns with them.


2 posted on 03/01/2014 4:07:00 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: Hojczyk

Is it my imagination or is the leftist Daily Beast (DB) hiring writers rather than commie idealogues? I know that DB is in serious trouble and laid off half its staff a month or so ago. Has Soros cut off DB’s money, and DB is trying to survive?

This particular story dovetails with other demographic data and anecdotal evidence that I’ve seen.


3 posted on 03/01/2014 4:12:33 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Unfortunately, many of these newcomers bring their liberal voting patterns with them.

It's hard to fix stupid. My daughter and her husband moved to Austin a few years ago. I was shocked that some people there are more liberal than San Franciscans (where I'm from). You go to downtown Austin, and degenerate people are shoving things in your face promoting planned parenthood and abortions. They didn't like my responses to them! Lots of greenies and ugly young liberals, yikes!

4 posted on 03/01/2014 4:20:39 PM PST by roadcat
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To: sergeantdave

And Wendell Cox, the guy that the writer quotes, is one of the most astute demographers in America.

Where the writer gets it wrong, as do most leftists, is that he thinks that all these people moving out of the Northeast and California are attaching themselves to large cities in the sunbelt. Not true. They are moving to exurbia, areas beyond the big sunbelt cities and their suburbs.

Hate Karl Rove all we want, he correctly tapped into exurbia to give Bush a second term. For that, Rove was brilliant.


5 posted on 03/01/2014 4:22:11 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Hojczyk

“Texas, Florida and Arizona”

Except for California, this is where the illegals are.

So does more illegals lead to big growth.

Or does big growth draw in the illegals.

I claim without proof that probably both are trueto some extent .

A boom draws illegals to jobs. And the cheap labor of the illegals and the spending of the illegals helps continue the boom.


6 posted on 03/01/2014 4:22:20 PM PST by staytrue
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To: roadcat

And purple hair! I lived in Austin and went to UT for one year AFTER I was old. And I was almost indoctrinated.

Then I moved to College Station. The girls are so much prettier and the town is conservative. I don’t live there anymore but I am an Aggie fan.


7 posted on 03/01/2014 4:34:11 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: staytrue; Hojczyk

Jobs:

http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=&l=76208


8 posted on 03/01/2014 4:37:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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Less than $4.3k to go!!

9 posted on 03/01/2014 4:40:48 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: staytrue

“So does more illegals lead to big growth.”

Your question is good and one I’ve been looking at.

Here’s the answer from the leftist Pew organization:

“The overall U.S. birth rate, which is the annual number of births per 1,000 women in the prime childbearing ages of 15 to 44, declined 8% from 2007 to 2010. The birth rate for U.S.-born women decreased 6% during these years, but the birth rate for foreign-born women plunged 14%—more than it had declined over the entire 1990-2007 period.1 The birth rate for Mexican immigrant women fell even more, by 23%.”

If Pew is correct, and I think that Pew is in this instance, the birth rate from Mexican illegals has fallen precipitously. For example, where I live, I see many, many more kid’s baseball fields than Mexican soccer fields.

Now, I also include anecdotal evidence which measures all those stick figures I see on the back window of SUVs in the south. Some of these windows include a half-dozen or more kids plus three dogs and two cats.

Cheers...


10 posted on 03/01/2014 4:53:07 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: roadcat

Austin is a liberal area surrounded by conservatives.


11 posted on 03/01/2014 5:03:12 PM PST by golfisnr1
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To: staytrue; sergeantdave
"Except for California, this is where the illegals are."

The illegals are wall to wall in Texas. But they are a better class of illegals than those in California.

Rather than try to frame it as illegals, its better to use the inclusive term immigrants, since the US has a relatively high immigration rate.

So, according to CIA Factbook, The 2013 US birth rate is 13.66 per 1000 and immigration rate is 3.6 per 1000.

12 posted on 03/01/2014 5:15:46 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: roadcat

That’s been a known aspect of Austin for some time. Big liberal university plus a government town.

Houston and Dallas overwhelm it.


13 posted on 03/01/2014 5:33:42 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Ben Ficklin

“But they are a better class of illegals than those in California.”

That’s a helluva interesting statement, Ben, and I’d love for you to expand that sentence and give us your best thought.

PS: not meant to be a criticism of you. Just fleshing out your ideas.


14 posted on 03/01/2014 5:38:33 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Hojczyk

I moved from Mississippi (an allegedly “conservative” State) to Texas, a REAL Conservative State. This new Texian won’t be helping my adopted home State turn Blue anytime soon.


15 posted on 03/01/2014 6:00:23 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: Hojczyk

Lots of Yankees moving here to beautiful South Carolina. Some of them are also bringing their northern liberal mindsets and are disappointed to find themselves on the outside looking in.

A word to the wise: South Carolina is one of the reddest states. And we won’t be changing that anytime soon.


16 posted on 03/01/2014 6:05:33 PM PST by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: sergeantdave
I was just joking with that "better class of illegals"

But, there are traditional patterns of illegal immigration as to destination. A particular village/town in Mexico may have a long tradition of immigrating to Texas while another may have the California tradition.

And this gives rise to the Mexican Home Town Associations in the US.

17 posted on 03/01/2014 6:13:39 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

“And this gives rise to the Mexican Home Town Associations in the US.”

LOL!

Would the proper acronym be MHTA? Do they give out taco baskets to newly arrived reconquista settlers?

See ya, Ben.


18 posted on 03/01/2014 6:34:45 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Hojczyk

Also, this winter was just beyond the height of the poor solar maximum. This is as warm as it’s going to get for a long time, so business in the southern states will be booming even much more before long. In many places on the CO Rockies, residents are jumping over each other to head south, while real estate and tourism grind slowly toward the halt.


19 posted on 03/01/2014 6:37:07 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: upchuck

“A word to the wise: South Carolina is one of the reddest states. And we won’t be changing that anytime soon.”

People get mad at me when I suggest that Rick Santorum is among the frontrunners in 2016.

So here I go again. Against a determined and well financed Romney, Santorum won/tied in Iowa and I think will do it again. I expect a 2nd place showing in NH and then I think he wins South Carolina carrying a ton of momentum into Florida which is where the opposition to Santorum makes the last ditch do or die effort to stop him.


20 posted on 03/01/2014 6:52:16 PM PST by staytrue
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Unfortunately, many of these newcomers bring their liberal voting patterns with them.

Yep! Those people are not capable of understanding that, it was their liberal beliefs that created the hellholes they left behind, but are under the illusion that, when they move elsewhere, that the people who created the hellholes won't be messing with their lives anymore.
21 posted on 03/01/2014 7:36:43 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Bingo! The Mexicans in my neighborhood help me with my lawn, auto repairs, etc. and I buy then some cerveza.


22 posted on 03/01/2014 8:28:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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