Skip to comments.At least 33 dead and 130 injured after gang of knife-wielding men attack a train station in China
Posted on 03/02/2014 12:43:38 AM PST by FR_addict
At least 33 people are dead and 130 injured after a group of knife-wielding men hacked their way through innocent people at one of China's busiest railway stations.
Distressing photos circulating online showed bodies, pools of blood and abandoned luggage scattered across the terminal floor at Kunming Railway Station in Yunnan province.
Authorities described the incident at about 9.20pm local time (1.20pm GMT) as an 'organised, premeditated, violent terrorist attack' in which at least 10 people stabbed commuters outside the station terminal before moving inside.
The death toll stands at 29 bystanders and four attackers who were shot dead by police.
Nothing is yet known of the motivation behind the attack, but the Chinese government has blamed militants from the remote far western region of Xinjiang, which is home to tensions between the government and Muslim separatists.
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Now imagine this happening in Texas or Alabama.
If it is, in fact, Uighurs, they are a long way from home. Certainly they capable and bloodthirsty enough. Kunming’s minority population is mostly Dai and are Buddhist. They aren’t separatists.
“Now imagine this happening in Texas or Alabama.”
Our government would move very quickly to ban knives.
Dumb idea as the Chinese don’t hold back and are just as ruthless as the Muslim. I mean like whole villages are going to disappear.
Umm, is Fort Hood is Texas?
Umm, is Fort Hood in Texas?
..and blame those “far right wingers” for the attack.
“Separatists” - also known as Chinese Muslims. MSM-speak translated for you.
Kurtz: I’ve seen horrors... horrors that you’ve seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It’s impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror... Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not, then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies! I remember when I was with Special Forces... seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate some children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn’t see. We went back there, and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried, I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out; I didn’t know what I wanted to do! And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it... I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, my God... the genius of that! The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that these were not monsters, these were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men, our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment! Because it’s judgment that defeats us.
And we have our feckless spineless a##wipe elected officals in connecticut moving to jail legal gun owners who refuse to register thier guns.
If this attack happened over here, we would still be in denial that Islam is a form of government that is incompatible with our form of government.
I think the Chinese know it is incompatible with the freedoms that they are allowed.
That said, I feel bad for those who are suffering because their loved ones were murdered by theses Muslims.
MUST BE THE ULTIMATE FORM OF KNOCKOUT!
Natch. Earlier reports omitted this; now it’s coming out.
A few guns would have made this a different story.
Long way from home is right. This is the rough equivalent of Texas separatists attacking people in Maine.
It is kind of odd for them to travel so far from home to launch an attack. And then choosing another remote section of China instead of Beijing or Shanghai.
Chinese government sources are of course fully reliable.
That’s how it seemed to me. The pictures of the carnage of ordinary, largely apolitical workers returning to work after New Years are particularly disturbing to me. I’ve traveled like that and good ordinary people struggling to get by certainly don’t deserve this. I guess that is the price of Islamic fundamentalism.
Quite true. It's a hell of a lot harder to escape a killer armed with a gun than with a knife.
For some reason, righties tend to assume that only the good guys will be armed with guns.
Let's assume a dozen heavily armed and well-trained men attack a similar target in USA. Say 500 people in a confined space. Something like a large food court at lunchtime.
I have no idea how many CCWs would be tend to be present in such a crowd, although I would expect it to vary considerably by area of the country. Let's be generous and assume there are 20 CCW in the crowd.
It is reasonable to think some CCW would flee rather then return fire. Let' say 5.
That leaves 15 CCW versus 12 attackers.
The attackers are fully prepared mentally. They're likely to be armed with AR-15s as well as handguns, with as many magazines as they can carry. Quite possibly body armor as well.
The CCWs defending are suffering the effects of total surprise, they carry guns suited for concealed-carry, and they have probably no more than two backup magazines each.
Who is likely to win such a shootout?
I think the death toll in such an attack is likely to be a good deal higher than that in Kunming. Lower than if the CCWs weren't present, as they will divert some of the attention of the attackers from their killing of unarmed people, but still very high.
Guns are not magic wands that prevent evil. They're tools evil people can get hold of and use just as easily as good people can.
Now in a fully armed society, if 12 killers attacked an area with 500 random people, the majority would promptly return fire. Very different scenario.
My point is simply that a few CCWs scattered throughout a crown might be quite effective against a lone nut shooter. They're not going to work nearly as well against a concerted attack by heavily armed terrorists.
Crown = crowd. Sorry.
Are you trying to say that it is no use to CCW?
Are you saying just give in, its gonna happen anyway?
Mt point would be, Carry. Yeah, its not a magic wand. Yeah, some will still die, maybe even the carrier. But take as many bad guys down too as you can. Defend!!
Your post sounded defeatist.
Merely a recognition that CCW, while very useful in many circumstances, is not a magic wand that will prevent all bad things from happening.
Can CCW protect an individual and his family? Quite often.
Will CCW potentially prevent or shorten mass shootings by a lone nut? Certainly has that potential.
Will CCW prevent or do much of anything to stop an assault by a group of heavily armed terrorists? Nope.
To my mind that isn’t defeatist. Just a recognition that if we want to prevent such attacks other means of defense are required.
Military rifles are a fine piece of hardware.
Will they stop a tank? Nope. It is just common sense, IMO, to be aware of what various weapons and policies are capable of doing, and what they are not capable of.
More reliable than US Govt sources, sad to say. So are the Russians.