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8 Steps Obama Must Take to Punish Russia
BI ^ | March 01, 2014 | Marco Rubio

Posted on 03/02/2014 4:16:14 AM PST by Zhang Fei

Russia’s illegal military incursion in the Crimea region in Ukraine is a grave violation of a nation’s sovereignty and cannot go unpunished.

First, President Obama should speak unequivocally and call this what it is: a military invasion. The Obama administration must publicly acknowledge that its “reset” with Russia is dead. The president must now accept that the only way to deal with tyrants like Vladimir Putin is with a clear understanding that they can’t be trusted and that only decisive action will deter their provocative moves.

Second, President Obama should dispatch Secretary of State John Kerry and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to Kiev to show U.S. support for Ukraine’s transitional government, and urge our allies in the European Union and NATO to send representatives there as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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No fan of Rubio on immigration, but these are pretty good proposals. He's got good foreign policy people on staff.
1 posted on 03/02/2014 4:16:14 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

Why bother? He must know Obama is incapable of doing anything other than worrying about how this will affect Ukrainian homosexuals and whether refugees are receiving free abortions.


2 posted on 03/02/2014 4:17:31 AM PST by Tax-chick (Lost to headquarters.)
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To: Zhang Fei

3 posted on 03/02/2014 4:17:39 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Zhang Fei

Go to another dance recital


4 posted on 03/02/2014 4:19:10 AM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: Zhang Fei
Why in God's name do we have to punish Russia? We are the invaders also who the hell do we think we are. We have been cut down to size and made a laughing stock by Obama.
5 posted on 03/02/2014 4:20:17 AM PST by angcat
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To: Zhang Fei

If Obama was smart, he should call Putin a racist. That would certainly humiliate Putin and stop this nonsense immediately. /sarc


6 posted on 03/02/2014 4:25:08 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Rubio sounding pretty Vice Presidential here.

I hope Sarah is watching and listening and reading and RUNNING.

7 posted on 03/02/2014 4:32:13 AM PST by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: Zhang Fei

Punish Russia? That sounds like a lot of work. Not sure our man is up to that level of effort.


8 posted on 03/02/2014 4:32:22 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Zhang Fei

Why would Obuma help? Ukrainians are white people.


9 posted on 03/02/2014 4:36:00 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave
Why would Obuma help? Ukrainians are white people.

But Putin is homophobic.

10 posted on 03/02/2014 4:38:06 AM PST by Tax-chick (Lost to headquarters.)
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To: Zhang Fei
First, of all, Marco -- haven't you gotten the memo? Relax. This wasn't an invasion, it was an uncontested arrival. They're not bad guys, maybe they just wanted to stage an unplanned tea party!

Ooops! Did I say 'Tea Party'? My bad...

11 posted on 03/02/2014 4:43:46 AM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: Zhang Fei

Why should he? He promised to be more “flexible” after the election.


12 posted on 03/02/2014 4:44:41 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Obama = tiny parabols


13 posted on 03/02/2014 4:47:24 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Zhang Fei

What’s that you say?
Why don’t those undocumented Russians need a pathway to become Ukranian citizens?


14 posted on 03/02/2014 4:53:34 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Waste of time —

On the outside Obama and his comrades are pretending to be upset but on the inside they support Putin and Russia in putting down this unauthorized uprising against dictatorships.


15 posted on 03/02/2014 4:57:11 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Zhang Fei

Why would the kenyan want to punish Russia? He told Putin that he would be more “flexible” after the 2012 election. Well, he is being “flexible.” Putin is probably acting according to a previously arranged agreement.


16 posted on 03/02/2014 4:59:03 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

Putin has figured out that Obama is set on destroying his internal political enemies and has no regard for this country’s political enemies. If he was a “raised here” American, he might think differently. But he will not object to what Putin is doing. Doesn’t affect him. It does affect us in the long run, but that again, doesn’t bother him.


17 posted on 03/02/2014 5:04:27 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: Zhang Fei

Interesting. I didn’t know about the hearings on approval of some new lefty Obama wuss in the State Dept to handle “arms reduction” talks with Russia.

Also, he’s right about restricting Russian travels and purchases in the US: there are wealthy Russians everywhere, busy buying up high-end properties not only in Miami but in NY and any place where there’s sufficient luxury for them. Limiting their ability to do this would certainly put a little internal pressure on Putin.

Another thing that could be done is to try to get the strangely silent Europe to wake up. But they are terrified, of course, that Russia is going to take over the gas lines that go through the Ukraine, and will then control what is the major natural gas source for Europe. So I think they are just holding their breath.


18 posted on 03/02/2014 5:05:24 AM PST by livius
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To: Zhang Fei

John Carry DID meet with Ben Affleck today. I’m sure some good ideas came out of that meeting.


19 posted on 03/02/2014 5:07:53 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Stay out of it.

We aren’t the world’s Texas Rangers.

Obama should not start something he doesn’t have the guts to finish.

This is the kind of confrontation that could lead to another World War.


20 posted on 03/02/2014 5:08:25 AM PST by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Zhang Fei

Why do we have to do anything? This is not our problem. If Obama would have kept his mouth shut during demonstrations, he could have avoided any involvement now.

Team America, World Police was supposed to be a parody not a documentary.


21 posted on 03/02/2014 5:11:22 AM PST by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Texas resident

“Putin has figured out that Obama is set on destroying his internal political enemies and has no regard for this country’s political enemies.”

Good point. I don’t think Obama’s not being raised here has any effect on it, but the fact that he is devoting all his time to destroying his domestic “enemies” is certainly something that Putin must have noted. Obama has taken us down to banana republic status, where the dictator is busy purging his enemies, throwing money at his favorites to buy their continued devotion, and basically rendering his country a pathetic wreck with no influence outside its borders except whatever money its dictator wants to throw to others of his ilk (think of VZ giving money to Cuba, and Obama giving money to Muslim radicals).


22 posted on 03/02/2014 5:11:40 AM PST by livius
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To: Azeem

I really agree with you. This is a can of worms I don’t think we want to open.


23 posted on 03/02/2014 5:17:14 AM PST by smalltownslick
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To: Diogenesis

Marco obviously did not have time to include step #9:

Obama must put his big girl panties on.


24 posted on 03/02/2014 5:19:45 AM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Zhang Fei
8 Steps Obama Must Take to Punish Russia

Are eight steps needed when a "redline" just won't do?

25 posted on 03/02/2014 5:20:00 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Zhang Fei
This is like getting involved in a fight between a man and his wise as both will turn on you. Rubio has no ideal what the hell is going on. The U.S. is not the policeman of the world as our own house is all F----- up. Talk about taking out the trash here first Marky Mark.
26 posted on 03/02/2014 5:29:57 AM PST by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: Zhang Fei

Totally correct.

I would ADD putting western military forces in all the eastern European Countries which border Russia, along with the Baltic States and emplace the Missile defense Shield Bush was negotiating over.

ANOTHER THING - BUY A UKRAINIAN FLAG and FLY IT - along with a Georgian Flag if you can.

My ancestors don’t come from Eastern Europe, but we should express solidarity with them.

If by some miracle the Russian People are able to rid themselves of this pint-sized Hitler, the U.S. should IMMEDIATELY make overtures towards the replacement government.


27 posted on 03/02/2014 5:45:33 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: Tax-chick

At this time, we must overlook Putin’s good points.


28 posted on 03/02/2014 5:47:05 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Russia’s illegal military incursion in the Crimea region in Ukraine is a grave violation of a nation’s sovereignty and cannot go unpunished.

But Mexico's 30 million man invasion of the United States over the last 40 years is something that is something that needs to be celebrated, eh Marco?

Punish Russian invaders to the Crimea but reward the Mexican invaders here? Is that the ticket, you Tea Party Turncoat?

29 posted on 03/02/2014 5:50:20 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Iron Munro
Stay out of it. We aren’t the world’s Texas Rangers. Obama should not start something he doesn’t have the guts to finish. This is the kind of confrontation that could lead to another World War.

It may escalate despite our involvement or lack of it. The whole world will be affected one way or another. There will be some hard decisions to be made and we have exactly the wrong team in and around the WH to be part of that process.

30 posted on 03/02/2014 5:52:48 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Zhang Fei
NATO needs to convince Turkey to close the Bosporus to Russian ships.

Ukraine should shutdown the gas pipelines from Russia to Europe.

31 posted on 03/02/2014 6:05:30 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Diogenesis

bttt


32 posted on 03/02/2014 6:09:13 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ronnie raygun

Does that mean that mac daddy will draw another 7 red lines?


33 posted on 03/02/2014 6:11:40 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: Zhang Fei

LOL. 4,6,7 are especially laughable. Trade ties between US and Russia are dismal and mostly involve exports of US-grown foods into Russia which is nowhere near as critical for Russians as it is to US farmers.
And it is so good that Afghan op end is near because US military there is even more dependant on Russian support. Also NASA cannot even bring a thing to space without their assistance.
Is there any sphere with Russians dependent on US?
The only beneficiary of such a cooling between two nations is a Russian regime. The lesser traveling between US and Russia = the lesser US influence within their country.


34 posted on 03/02/2014 6:14:15 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Zhang Fei

This American display of weakness will bring down the US Dollar. Part of the US Dollar strength is due to our powerful militarily and ability to project it. This gives foreigners confidence in holding US Dollars.

So naturally commie Obama is decimating our military which tank the US Dollar.

Meanwhile that headstrong imbecile John Kerry lurches around creating even more damage


35 posted on 03/02/2014 6:17:52 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: livius

Gas provider is not Ukrainian pipe but Russian company Gasprom.


36 posted on 03/02/2014 6:23:14 AM PST by Cossak
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To: Texas resident

USA troops in Afghanistan cannot go home without Russia help.


37 posted on 03/02/2014 6:28:45 AM PST by Cossak
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To: ZULU

LOL!


38 posted on 03/02/2014 6:30:27 AM PST by Tax-chick (Lost to headquarters.)
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To: Mister Da

Ukraine did that so Russia has now alternative. Gasprom company has no intention to feed Ukraine at own account for they did not pay and have no money. Ukraine asked EU for financial help of 35 000 000 000 $, current debt is 140 000 000 000 with no slightest prospect to pay it back


39 posted on 03/02/2014 6:38:18 AM PST by Cossak
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To: Tax-chick

We should send more warships into the Black Sea to get Americans out if the balloon goes up. I would add, put NATO troops on alert in Europe. Maybe the USA should pay the bills of the Ukrainians-—Maybe Obama should put on a Flack Jacket and visit Kiev himself to show his support. The French President did that in Kosovo if I recall. Maybe send Hillary as a special ambassador to talk to Putin. Maybe give some F-16s to the Ukraine (like they did to Egypt) How about sending Ukraine some medical supplies and food and tents? There is a lot that can be done—BUT does Obama have the guts? I think Not.


40 posted on 03/02/2014 6:52:00 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: trebb
It may escalate despite our involvement or lack of it. The whole world will be affected one way or another. There will be some hard decisions to be made and we have exactly the wrong team in and around the WH to be part of that process. ,p> I think you are right.

One way or another Europe will drag us into another World War unless we act wisely.

If not over the Ukraine and Crimea, it will be over some other needless conflict.


41 posted on 03/02/2014 6:57:29 AM PST by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Zhang Fei
The little islamist is in way over his head.
42 posted on 03/02/2014 7:27:34 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Texas resident

Putin doesn’t have to figure Obama out. Putin has ALL of Obama’s personal information. Obama is being soundly blackmailed.


43 posted on 03/02/2014 7:33:24 AM PST by abclily
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To: Zhang Fei

I never listen to anything congenital liars say.


44 posted on 03/02/2014 8:07:22 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: abclily

Either blackmailed or the old soviets did a good enough job of research on him that they know who he is and what his experience is. Experience that counts. The Russians know tons more about Obama than the American voter.


45 posted on 03/02/2014 8:21:51 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: Cossak

It comes from Gazprom, but don’t most of the pipelines pass through Ukraine? Any disruption of the area would certainly disrupt the gas supply - which Europe depends on, and which Russia depends on too (for the income).


46 posted on 03/02/2014 8:23:46 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
This pipeline was big project of USSR time, handed to Ukraine after USSR dissolution. Ukraine blackmailed Russia not once not paying for consumed gas even at subsidized prices, when Russia stopped gas supply for them, they stole gas intended for Western consumers, and it was big scandal and Russia was declared guilty in all possible sins. Gasprom realized alternative gas supply routes to Europe and kept afloat Ukrainian ,heavily worn out infrastructure mostly for political reasons. Ukrainian economy produces enormous debts and oligharchs, it indebted to Russian banks only 10 000 000 000 $, Russian business has big assets there, 3,5 mln Ukrainians earn their living in Russia, all their industrial production consumes Russia, many items only for better relations for there is enough domestic production. Ukrainian debt to West is 140 000 000 000 and they asked for additional 35 000 000 000 on next two years. New Kievan government is most oligharchic in last two decades. This Maidan thing was not about democracy and freedom, usual fight of oligarchic clans. (Yawn :))
47 posted on 03/06/2014 8:05:32 PM PST by Cossak
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To: Cowboy Bob
No dice :-) For every Russian name of greatest poet Pushkin, an Ethiopian grandson, is holy
48 posted on 03/06/2014 8:28:41 PM PST by Cossak
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To: Tax-chick

Ukrainians too LOL


49 posted on 03/06/2014 8:30:11 PM PST by Cossak
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To: Uncle Chip

Unauthorised are protesters. Them are banderovtsy, heirs of Nachtigal anb Galitsia SS.


50 posted on 03/06/2014 8:33:57 PM PST by Cossak
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