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REPORT: Ukrainian Warship Defects To Russia
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Posted on 03/02/2014 7:35:02 AM PST by kronos77

Ukrainian Navy flagship Hetman Sahaidachny has reportedly refused orders from Kiev and defected to the Russian side, a Russian senator has claimed in an interview with Ivestia Daily.

“Ukraine’s Navy flagship the Hetman Sahaidachny has come over to our side today. It has hung out the St Andrew’s flag,” Sen. Igor Morozov, a member of the committee on the international affairs, told Izvestia. “The crew has fulfilled the order by the chief commander of Ukraine’s armed forces Viktor Yanukovych.”

The ship recently took part in counter-piracy patrols with EU naval forces and was sailing towards its homeport of Sevastopol, Naval Today reports.

Ousted Ukraine President Yanukovych, under Kremlin protection in the Russian city of Rostov-on-Don, railed against those who forced him out of power in a press conference on Feb. 28, calling them “radical mobsters” who took over the country.

“I believe that the Ukrainian parliament is not legitimate,” he said.

This is a developing story, and this post will be updated as we learn more.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: navy; putin; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko

1 posted on 03/02/2014 7:35:02 AM PST by kronos77
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To: kronos77

Ukraine’s Navy flagship, the Hetman Sahaidachny frigate, has reportedly refused to follow orders from Kiev, and come over to Russia’s side and is returning home after taking part in NATO operation in the Gulf of Aden flying the Russian naval flag.

There has been conflicting information on where exactly the vessel is, but a Russian senator has confirmed to Izvestia daily that the frigate defected to the Russian side.

“Ukraine’s Navy flagship the Hetman Sahaidachny has come over to our side today. It has hung out the St Andrew’s flag,” Senator Igor Morozov, a member of the committee on the international affairs, told Russia’s Izvestia.

He said the flagship is on its way back to the Black Sea after drills in the Mediterranean. “The crew has fulfilled the order by the chief commander of Ukraine’s armed forces Viktor Yanukovich,” he added.

The move comes after the Navy command resigned Friday. Self-appointed President Aleksandr Turchinov made Rear Admiral Denis Berezovsky the new Navy Chief, a statement published on the President’s website Saturday said.

Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the Prime Minister Ukraine’s self-imposed government, had earlier asked his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan not to let the frigate through the Bosporus strait, according to the Kiev Times. The ship captain and the head of Ukraine’s contingent in the operation, Rear Admiral Andrey Tarasov disobeyed orders from Kiev.

The Hetman Sahaidachny returns to Sevastopol, Crimea after taking part in a joint counter-piracy operation with NATO and the EU off the Horn of Africa, reported UNN on Friday, citing Ukraine’s Defense Ministry. On February 26, after crossing the Suez Canal, the ship entered the Mediterranean Sea and was expected to be in Sevastopol in early March.


2 posted on 03/02/2014 7:37:12 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
This is a developing story

Everything is proceeding according to plan.

3 posted on 03/02/2014 7:37:12 AM PST by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: kronos77
Defects To Russia

4 posted on 03/02/2014 7:41:10 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: kronos77

And half of the Ukrainian Army.


5 posted on 03/02/2014 7:41:37 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: GeronL; KC_Lion

Ping.


6 posted on 03/02/2014 7:42:27 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: kronos77

This happens when soldiers don’t get paid.


7 posted on 03/02/2014 7:47:36 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Army Air Corps; GeronL; Berlin_Freeper
The Ship in Question.


8 posted on 03/02/2014 7:47:49 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: kronos77
I'm curious. Does anyone know if the Ukrainians have nukes?
9 posted on 03/02/2014 7:49:54 AM PST by deweyfrank
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To: Sacajaweau

Ukrainian Army, does not exist no more as a combat force. Amateur mistake of new regime - instant sacking of commanding officers, appointing of party stooges of new regime - well - just like Stalin purges...


10 posted on 03/02/2014 7:50:59 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: KC_Lion

That’s the first thing we should blow-up, since it doesn’t belong to Russia it’s like a freebie.


11 posted on 03/02/2014 7:51:17 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: KC_Lion

If ships were leaders, this one would be Putin. Obama would be a rowboat.


12 posted on 03/02/2014 7:51:19 AM PST by Starboard
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To: deweyfrank

No, and Thank God on that one too.


13 posted on 03/02/2014 7:51:24 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

” a Russian senator has claimed in an interview with Ivestia Daily. “

Waiting for verification


14 posted on 03/02/2014 7:52:29 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

That’s the first thing we should blow-up

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The only thing we’re going to blow up is our own national credibility and respect. The rest of the world is watching our fumbling and bumbling. Obama has destroyed our stature in the world.


15 posted on 03/02/2014 7:53:43 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Berlin_Freeper; GeronL; Army Air Corps

Do you think we will see a “French Fleet at Toulon” or “German High Seas Fleet at Scapa Flow” Moment?


16 posted on 03/02/2014 7:54:27 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: deweyfrank

“Does anyone know if the Ukrainians have nukes?”

No, they don’t.
Their nuclear weaponry was dismantled after 1991.


17 posted on 03/02/2014 7:54:28 AM PST by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: nuconvert

If it’s true, that’s huge news.
A big blow to the putchists in Kiev.


18 posted on 03/02/2014 7:56:15 AM PST by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: KC_Lion

Would make a good propaganda story - after we blow it up.


19 posted on 03/02/2014 7:56:35 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: KC_Lion

Nice looking Frigate.


20 posted on 03/02/2014 7:59:59 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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21 posted on 03/02/2014 8:02:09 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Marguerite; kronos77
Thank You. The Ukrainians really don't have much to block a Russian take over then. obama needs to act quickly with sanctions or all is lost for them. I'm afraid they're doomed.
22 posted on 03/02/2014 8:04:45 AM PST by deweyfrank
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To: KC_Lion

Krivak class.


23 posted on 03/02/2014 8:08:46 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (You think you know me. You don't.)
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To: deweyfrank
Does anyone know if the Ukrainians have nukes?

They don't.

That was one of the conditions of the Budapest Memorandum -- that Ukraine turn over all the nuclear weapons in its possession to Russia for de-activation and dismantling.

In return, Russia, the UK and the US would guarantee Ukraine's borders...

24 posted on 03/02/2014 8:13:59 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

He knows where the vodka comes from, e.g. who is going to win this thing...


25 posted on 03/02/2014 8:17:06 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: deweyfrank

But Ukraine has still several Chernobyl style nuclear energy plants, which have become obsolete years ago, but weren’t dismantled yet ...


26 posted on 03/02/2014 8:23:38 AM PST by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: deweyfrank; Marguerite
Ukraine agreed to give up its nukes in return for security assurances from Russia, the US and the UK. From wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Ukraine
"When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the newly independent Ukraine had on its territory what was the third largest strategic nuclear weapons arsenal in the world. It was larger than those of Britain, France, and China combined. On June 1, 1996 Ukraine became a non-nuclear nation when it sent the last of its 1,900 strategic nuclear warheads to Russia for dismantling.

The first shipment of nuclear weapons from Ukraine to Russia (by train) was in March 1994. In return for giving up its nuclear weapons, Ukraine, the United States of America, Russia, and the United Kingdom signed the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, pledging to respect Ukraine territorial integrity, a pledge that was arguably broken by Russia's 2014 invasion of Crimea."


Waiting today for the press to ask Susan Rice, Jon Kerry, Bubba and Hillary how that "Budapest Agreement" thing is working out ..... and how we intend to honor our part of that treaty
27 posted on 03/02/2014 8:30:17 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: All

Ukraine defense minister just said they cannot defeat russian army.


28 posted on 03/02/2014 8:39:38 AM PST by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: kronos77

I’ve found another source for the news:

Ukrainian Navy flagship takes Russia’s side – report

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-navy-flaghsip-protest-389/


29 posted on 03/02/2014 8:39:56 AM PST by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: mulder1

Of course not

That’s why they signed a security assistance memorandum with the US and the UK (Budapest Agreement, 1994)

Hello? Clintons? Albright? Kerry? Rice? Jarrett?
Phone has been ringing since 3Am......

(crickets)


30 posted on 03/02/2014 8:43:52 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: kronos77

I posted the Isvestia article yesterday...


31 posted on 03/02/2014 8:45:46 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Starboard

The masters of the current buffoon in the White House have willfully and maliciously, through him, set out to tear down our former American economy, political structure, social and cultural norms and now our approach to Foreign affairs.


32 posted on 03/02/2014 9:00:55 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Agree with your every word.


33 posted on 03/02/2014 9:08:04 AM PST by Starboard
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To: kronos77

Deputy chief of staff of Ukrainian armed forces resigns

Lt. Gen. Yury Dumansky, deputy chief of staff of the Ukrainian armed forces, has announced his resignation.

“The Ukrainian armed forces are being dragged into a social conflict today. This may cause a massive loss of life, both among civilians and military servicemen. This is my personal position as an officer and a citizen of Ukraine.
I have decided to tender my resignation to prevent further escalation [of violence] and bloodshed,” he said.


34 posted on 03/02/2014 10:51:10 AM PST by Marguerite (T)
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To: kronos77

The Commander of Ukraine’s Naval Forces had pledged his allegiance to the Crimean people. He made the announcement at a news-conference in the city of Sevastopol today.

http://www.onlinenewsvideo.net/ukraines-navy-chief-swears-allegiance-to-crimea_43e7d2f7e.html


35 posted on 03/02/2014 10:58:45 AM PST by Marguerite (T)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS; Starboard

It is not just Obama. It is the entire dim party and all the unelected agencies and courts. This is a massive governmental attack on US that was half or more of a century in the making. The pubbies should expose this every chance they get.


36 posted on 03/02/2014 3:16:25 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: silverleaf
and how we intend to honor our part of that treaty

The U.S. Senate soundly rejected that agreement. We have no treaty with Ukraine in that regard.

37 posted on 03/03/2014 1:58:31 PM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: houeto

and so

“diplomatic memorandums” have less utility than toilet paper

Countries being enticed to give up their weapons in exchange for security guarantees via a “diplomatic memorandum” should take note


38 posted on 03/03/2014 2:45:45 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf
Countries being enticed to give up their weapons in exchange for security guarantees via a “diplomatic memorandum” should take note

Especially when signed by a Democrat.

39 posted on 03/03/2014 9:03:33 PM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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