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Putin Declares War
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 2, 2014 | Editorial

Posted on 03/02/2014 7:46:36 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Vladimir Putin's Russia seized Ukraine's Crimean peninsula by force on the weekend and now has his sights on the rest of his Slavic neighbor. The brazen aggression brings the threat of war to the heart of Europe for the first time since the end of the Cold War. The question now is what President Obama and free Europe are going to do about it. --SNIP--

In the brutal world of global power politics, Ukraine is in particular a casualty of the Mr. Obama's failure to enforce his "red line" on Syria. When the leader of the world's only superpower issues a military ultimatum and then blinks, others notice. Adversaries and allies in Asia and the Middle East will be watching President Obama's response now. China has its eyes on Japanese islands. Iran is counting on U.S. weakness in nuclear talks.

The Ukrainians can't be left alone to face Russia, and the Kremlin's annexation of Crimea can't be allowed to stand. Ukraine must remain an independent state with its current borders intact, free to follow its democratic will to join the European Union and NATO if it desires. The world is full of revisionist powers and bad actors looking to exploit the opening created by Mr. Obama's retreat from global leadership, and Mr. Putin is the leading edge of what will quickly become a new world disorder.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; eu; failure; imgueagenda; putin; russia; soros; ukraine; ukrainecrisis; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/02/2014 7:46:36 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Russia seized Ukraine's Crimean peninsula

2 posted on 03/02/2014 7:47:59 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hussein obamar is all tough guy when it’s Libya or Syria.

I guess this isn’t a war on behalf of the muslim brotherhood so this isn’t of interest to him.


3 posted on 03/02/2014 7:48:28 AM PST by boycott
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Homosexual-Activist-in-Chief has more important things on his plate.

He has an important meeting with Reggie behind the bushes on the back nine.

4 posted on 03/02/2014 7:49:25 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A people who don’t maintain a military sufficient for self-defense have voted to be invaded. It is immoral for them to expect or demand that someone come and repel an enemy. It’s the ultimate bailout.

We should do nothing.


5 posted on 03/02/2014 7:50:25 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In the brutal world of global power politics, Ukraine is in particular a casualty of the Mr. Obama’s failure to enforce his “red line” on Syria. When the leader of the world’s only superpower issues a military ultimatum and then blinks, others notice. Adversaries and allies in Asia and the Middle East will be watching President Obama’s response now.


This is the scary part of what is unfolding. What will the president do to restore *his* credibility? His actions could be a huge mistake and trigger unthinkable consequences.

Or he could just do nothing and let the USA decline into a footnote in history.


6 posted on 03/02/2014 7:51:30 AM PST by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation leads to lawlessness.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That cute, WSJ.

Now what army are you going to send against a nuclear power in order to seize it back? Or did you guys ever wonder why we never went to war against the Soviets for a host of other stuff?


7 posted on 03/02/2014 7:53:56 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Arthur McGowan
You don't know very much about history, do you?

Good thing the French goverment didn't take such a foolish attitude in 1781.

8 posted on 03/02/2014 7:55:21 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"The Ukrainians can't be left alone to face Russia, and the Kremlin's annexation of Crimea can't be allowed to stand."

Well, females and gays who want to be on the front lines, here's your chance. Good luck!

9 posted on 03/02/2014 7:55:54 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Very well stated! In its current form, this is a European problem at this point, and we have NO interest there. The danger here is if Putin takes all of Ukraine without a credible response from Europe. He may be tempted to go after a few more. Why wouldn’t he?


10 posted on 03/02/2014 7:57:27 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: wideawake

Good thing for us, not for them. The resources spent only hastened the French Revolution.


11 posted on 03/02/2014 7:57:51 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yours truly, George Soros.


12 posted on 03/02/2014 7:58:34 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Arthur McGowan

These types of treaties to ensure the “protection” of some nation are NEVER a good idea.

Britain had one with Belgium in 1914. The lost hundreds of thousands of men for that.

Britain and France had one with Poland in 1939. Even more were lost and Poland wasn’t free until 1989.

We made this stupid promise when Russia was in chaos, broke, and not much of a threat. We made it to a nation that wasn’t remotely unified enough.

Sorry to say but the U.S. should not go to war for this. We are just going to have to prop up what’s left of that country with aid, and settle in for Cold War 2.


13 posted on 03/02/2014 7:58:59 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And The Person Who Foresaw It All Is...
14 posted on 03/02/2014 7:59:29 AM PST by blam
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To: OwenKellogg

Obama never had any credibility of his own.The only credibilty he ever had came with the office,a legacy of much better men.The whole world now knows that he’s a punk gay community organizer,who floated into the job on a wave of white guilt.


15 posted on 03/02/2014 7:59:30 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: KoRn

Putin doesn’t want Western Ukraine and they sure as hell don’t want him.


16 posted on 03/02/2014 7:59:31 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: OwenKellogg
"Or he could just do nothing and let the USA decline into a footnote in history."

Well, he has been pretty open that he thinks that the US should atone for past perceived sins and be reduced to just one nation among many, nothing special about it.

17 posted on 03/02/2014 8:00:11 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Arthur McGowan

In the Budapest Memorandum The US, and UK guaranteed Ukraine’s safety.


18 posted on 03/02/2014 8:00:14 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: VanDeKoik

I don’t have the impression you read the editorial.


19 posted on 03/02/2014 8:01:03 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: swamprebel

Just like Poland in the early 20th century.


20 posted on 03/02/2014 8:01:21 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: jimbo123

Putin may not want to keep western Ukraine but I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t mind punching them out.


21 posted on 03/02/2014 8:01:50 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, a bunch of Soros funded, firebomb throwing insurrectionists attempted to overthrow the legitimate government of Russia’s political ally and very strategic neighbor. These are the consequences. Good luck to them because its not our problem.


22 posted on 03/02/2014 8:02:53 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: GeronL; KC_Lion

Pingsky


23 posted on 03/02/2014 8:02:56 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

WSJ says the annexation of Crimea mustn’t stand? Okay, let Obama, sword in hand, go take it back, accompanied by Hagel’s homo brigades, and a select group of gay athletes. They can all get together and stamp their feet and wave the rainbow flag at Putin’s army.


24 posted on 03/02/2014 8:03:12 AM PST by greene66
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is theater to keep Lois Lerner’s testimony off the news cycle this week. Nothing more nothing less. Putin will wind up occupying Ukraine and Obama walks away from the IRS scandal. The Western Europeans won’t do a thing.


25 posted on 03/02/2014 8:03:22 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If Putin succeeds in Ukraine, he might be tempted to make trouble elsewhere. Latvia and Estonia, for example, have large ethnic Russian minorities that he could stir up.


26 posted on 03/02/2014 8:05:45 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: mac_truck

No one in Ukraine except for the Bandera Nazis want war with Russia. And Putin doesn’t want war with Ukraine either. The Ukrainian people can decided who they want to affiliate with and George Soros, John McCain and the Wall Street Journal editorial board should stay out of it.


27 posted on 03/02/2014 8:06:17 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Enterprise

Or give that editor a rifle.


28 posted on 03/02/2014 8:07:24 AM PST by Psalm 144 (1. Sow. 2. Reap. 3. Eat the result.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Nice to see some people on Freerepublic have some sense instead of wasting money we don’t have on a war we have no business with.


29 posted on 03/02/2014 8:08:02 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The question now is what President Ø .. going to do about it

Absolutely nothing.

30 posted on 03/02/2014 8:09:34 AM PST by tomkat (3%+1)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

re: “The question now is what President Obama and free Europe are going to do about it.”

Obama will ultimately do nothing because there is really nothing he can do about it. He has spent all the years of his presidency putting us into a position of weakness in regard to foreign policy.

He has “apologized” to our enemies around the world on several occasions for the times we intervened or stood up for our interests or freedom’s interests around the world.

He has refocused our intelligence services toward domestic spying and bungled/compromised (or was it intentional?) our foreign intelligence capability.

He has announced to the world that we are reducing our military.

He has demonstrated to the world that we will no longer stand by our word/agreements to our allies.

He has demonstrated to the world that he will give all deference to those nations/political groups who are hostile to us while shunning our allies.

And lastly, Obama told Putin in person that once he was re-elected in 2012, that he would be in a much better position to give away/reduce our military/nuclear standing in Europe, and advised Putin to just “wait” a while until after the election.


31 posted on 03/02/2014 8:10:04 AM PST by rusty schucklefurd
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To: OwenKellogg
Or he could just do nothing and let the USA decline into a footnote in history.

Given that we have a witless president, it is best if we just stay on the sidelines rather than risk further damage.

Obama is prone to colossal screw ups and we don't need one at this level. Somebody said that Putin is playing geopolitical chess and Obama is playing marbles.

The media can't help him on this one.

32 posted on 03/02/2014 8:10:05 AM PST by oldbrowser (Civil service unions are the real government)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obama should issue an executive order requiring equality among world leaders.

It really isn't a fair matchup.

They get Bluto While we only get Urkel.


33 posted on 03/02/2014 8:14:26 AM PST by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer


34 posted on 03/02/2014 8:16:09 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: VanDeKoik
Following your logic, allowing Russia to take eastern Ukraine and Crimea, What would happen if tomorrow Putin took Poland, Romania, Albania, Yugoslavia (a Mediterranean port), Greece and Hungary? Would it still be a non issue for America? After seeing the US stand by, would Free Europe turn to China for protection? And speaking of China, who has ratcheted up it's Asian ambitions, would they annex Taiwan, Korea, Japan, and the Philippines. Why not, if Putin gets away with it?

Soon isolationism leads to occupying a very small island, while the rest of the world runs amok. Isolationism is the bedrock of Obama’s philosophy. The world abhors a vacuum, and when America pulls out, something worse always rushes in.

35 posted on 03/02/2014 8:17:02 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Crimea was historically part of Russia until 1954 when Khrushchev assigned it to Ukraine for contemporary internal USSR reasons.


36 posted on 03/02/2014 8:17:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: jimbo123

With the fiscal wreck that is Europe these days, I couldn’t imagine why Putin would want Western Ukraine either. Let the EU have them, as they’ll fit right in! It’s my understanding that the Eastern part of the country is where the majority of the industry/natural resources are, and it looks like that’s what Putin is most likely after.


37 posted on 03/02/2014 8:18:05 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Fiji Hill
Yeah, but the homos, Monsanto, and George Soros all have their eyes on Latvia and Estonia. Who knows what McCain might do, but he's sure to be snooping around. And they are all Nazis, anyway. /s

Only Russia can protect them.

38 posted on 03/02/2014 8:18:47 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

This is the real gripe:

“Mr. Putin is the leading edge of what will quickly become a new world disorder.”

The neocon, UN and EU house of cards is tilting. This is not as easy to shift as Libya and Egypt. The transnationals’ game is too exposed, there is scant money and they now play with someone who can see them and raise them.


39 posted on 03/02/2014 8:19:22 AM PST by Psalm 144 (1. Sow. 2. Reap. 3. Eat the result.)
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To: swamprebel

Actually, Russia is “retaking” Crimea. Crimea was Russian throughout history until 1954.

If native Hawaiian activists stormed some govt buildings in Oahu and demanded the US Navy leave Pearl Harbor, do you think we would comply?

Or would we reinforce Pearl Harbor?


40 posted on 03/02/2014 8:19:35 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Interesting side-storyr:

Satirist under fire for comparing Sochi Games and Hitler's Olympics

Maybe he knew too much?

41 posted on 03/02/2014 8:19:42 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd
And lastly, Obama told Putin in person that once he was re-elected in 2012, that he would be in a much better position to give away/reduce our military/nuclear standing in Europe, and advised Putin to just “wait” a while until after the election.

It's a perfect storm of realpolitik backlash. All that Putin brings from a career with the KGB goes eyeball-to-eyeball with the quintessentially vacuous, moribund Progressive, placed in that position by a nation freefalling into decadence.
42 posted on 03/02/2014 8:20:01 AM PST by jobim (.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
With a swiftness and organization that suggests the plans were hatched weeks ago...

Russia had one last Winter Olympic event: Hegemony.

43 posted on 03/02/2014 8:20:36 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

44 posted on 03/02/2014 8:20:55 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obama wants to signal weakness. He wants the world enslaved to socialism, and the US diminished militarily. His phoney-baloney speeches are only intended for plausible denial.

Before it's over, he'll find a way to give away our most sensitive military secrets. Hell, Bubba already got away with it.

45 posted on 03/02/2014 8:21:03 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Putin declares war. Obama yells, “FORE!”


46 posted on 03/02/2014 8:21:15 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Crimea was Russian until 1954, when Khruschev gave it to Ukraine as part of contemporary internal USSR political machinations. Crimea is less Ukrainian than Hawaii is American.


47 posted on 03/02/2014 8:22:49 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KoRn

Putin wants stability in Ukraine.

Funny thing is that the Ukrainians are really mad at McCain and Kerry. It’s hilarious. They’re saying,

“Who are these McCain and Kerry and why are they getting involved in Ukraine? Do they want to move here?”


48 posted on 03/02/2014 8:23:01 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Good advise WSJ. Perhaps we can crew those sixth fleet ships with all the illegal aliens you want to make citizens before we sail them off to fight the russians.


49 posted on 03/02/2014 8:24:44 AM PST by skeeter
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To: jobim
Speaking of realpolitik.....


50 posted on 03/02/2014 8:25:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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