Skip to comments.Manís good deed lands his home on a list of meth labs
Posted on 03/02/2014 9:01:09 AM PST by kiryandil
DES MOINES, Iowa On Jan. 5, 2012, Paul Valin called the police to report hed found a backpack containing what he believed to be meth-making equipment. That simple act of good citizenship landed his and wife Cindys house on the National Clandestine Laboratory Register, the federal Drug Enforcement Agencys list of meth labs.
The NCLR contains addresses of some locations where law enforcement agencies reported they found chemicals or other items that indicated the presence of either clandestine drug laboratories or dumpsites.
The fact that Valin found the backpack more than 15 miles from his house isnt the sort of thing the DEA or any other division of the Department of Justice would have checked on before publishing his address on the NCLR.
According to the NCLR website: In most cases the Department has not verified the entry and does not guarantee its accuracy .The Department does not accept responsibility or liability for damages of any kind resulting from reliance on an entry.
Unlike the DOJ, Paul Valin is willing to accept responsibility. And thats how his trouble started...
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Stay away from your government Owners' enforcers.
I expect every conservative will find their home on this list at some point.
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...
It makes no sense to treat the citizenry this way. It makes you the enemy of everyone, not just criminals.
After hearing about this, why would anyone give the agency a tip in the future.
This is so self-defeatist of government that it’s evidence of blithering idiocy.
We need to take an axe to this government, through our elected officials. That should be the number one campaign issue in upcoming elections.
Police, like the criminal governments they work for, are not your friend.
Not if the endgame involves prison camps and furnaces.
I never give identification information if I call to report a crime in which I’m not the victim. If the dispatcher tries to intimate me, I just tell her my report is on their tape recording and that if she fails to act on the information I provided, then it’s her and her department’s problem if the whole thing blows up in their faces because she failed to act. That usually gets a change of attitude real fast, including inquiry as to more details about the crime being reported.
(Yes, I know they have caller id, but they still don’t know who called from that phone.)
The comments on the article sound like they came from free-republic.
Seriously it’s long past the point of no-return. The government, local/state/federal, is no longer a force to be dealt with fairly as they will screw you in every way they can. It’s best to have minimal contact and deal with things on your own without their ‘help’.
I thought that "assault weapons" were "weapons of war". Are those Tacticool police guys at war with somebody?
“It makes no sense to treat the citizenry this way. It makes you the enemy of everyone, not just criminals.”
They love the pretend game they are playing against unsuspecting, generally unarmed people. They never stop to think that the bureaucratic bosses that send them out aren’t going to be the ones to initially get a round between the eyes. It hasn’t hurt enough yet for them to stop.
Well, you’ve got me there. Perhaps it does make sense then.
The Polk County Assessor had also announced he was considering using the information on the NCLR when assessing the value of a house.
How ironic if his tax burden was reduced...
Jokes aside, these are the instructions for NCLR Reporting
This smacks of civil liability by the Des Moines Police Department, as they clearly did not submit accurate information. Gross negligence on their part, imho.
Go to the instructions and see for yourselves.
Anyone who would not help to get this information expunged, should be summarily fired on the spot.
You are thinking logically. Statists follow a different code...
We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.
― George Orwell, 1984
Now, there's an idea of getting your taxes lowered...
Very nice. Thanks...
This list or some other....
It’s one thing to get [some] training along with uniforms, armor and tactical weapons and then go out and run roughshod over unsuspecting civilians.
It’s totally different when a sizable portion of an urban area turns into a war zone (as we have in major Dem run cities right now). Picture that “war zone” or “zone of occupation” if you will, being largely populated by (well) armed, intelligent, working and middle class citizens that have morphed into rebellion mode. These tough guys, for the most part bullies IMO, are going to have a serious change of attitude accompanied by rapidly shrinking balls.
Blood will run in the streets, but that won’t subjugate the good people once aroused.
Suggestion to *everyone*: Get Zello and learn how to use it. Venezuela, Egypt will show you why. Oppressive, spying governments are not the only beneficiaries of technology.
“...does not accept responsibility or liability for damages of any kind.”
Maybe this should be the new government motto - who understands the Latin of “E Pluribus Unum”, anyway. And, it would keep the lawyers happy.
I could live with that, if it was the basis for the government withdrawing from about 95% of what it does today.
Tell me about your experiences with Zello, please?
Zello saves conversations. It sounds vulnerable to spying. Are you sure it is secure?
Don’t talk to the police.
Paranoid much? I’ve talked to lots of cops in my life. One was a friend of mine. Haven’t been arrested yet.
Paul should ship his dog out of state before a DEA agent comes and shoots it.
I’m surprised they didn’t shoot him for putting his hands in his pockets.
Cops don’t care if innocent people get convicted. Still counts as a gold star.
Well, since it’s reported that there are 80 million Americass names on the DHS Terrorist List, I suspicion most of us are on it - but no muzzies are because they have been declared not terrorists - only people like returning vets, Christians, Constitutionalists and Tea Party folk. (Wish I was being sarcastic)
I also suspicion that that number pretty much corresponds with the number of ‘group caskets’ now distributed to F EMA camps around the country.
your advise should be taken seriously by every person - and this video should be shown to every family
“A law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police. “
That was well worth the time to see! Thanks for sharing!
Everything the Nazis did was PERFECTLY LEGAL TOO!