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Rap disrespect of black icons raises concerns
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | March 2, 2014 | JESSE WASHINGTON

Posted on 03/02/2014 9:43:21 AM PST by artichokegrower

Malcolm X and rap music have always fit together like a needle in the groove, connected by struggle, strength and defiance. But three recent episodes involving the use or misuse of Malcolm and other black icons have raised the question: Has rap lost touch with black history?

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"I don't want to say today's rappers are not educated about black history, but they don't seem as aware as rap generations before them,"


Using the term rapper and educated in the same sentence should bring out the oxymoron police

1 posted on 03/02/2014 9:43:21 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Hoist on their own petard.


2 posted on 03/02/2014 9:44:53 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: artichokegrower

It would appear that entropy is colorblind.


3 posted on 03/02/2014 9:47:31 AM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: artichokegrower
connected by struggle, strength and defiance.

Puh-leeze......

Has rap lost touch with black history?

It never was. It's crap.
4 posted on 03/02/2014 9:48:21 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: artichokegrower

Malcom X would probably smack these idiots across the face these days starting with Louis Farrakhan.

He was never going to be a tea partier but he was wandering off the plantation and posed a real threat to the black nationalist/muslim movement.


5 posted on 03/02/2014 9:50:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: artichokegrower


There were once rappers that actually just made fun music. Politics, thuggery, and irresponsibility apparently made for "better" content.
6 posted on 03/02/2014 9:51:09 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of malcontents.

Talk about the hos, the niggas, the shooting up of the neighborhoods, the drug culture, the destrucion of generations of black yutes, and it’s swell.

Start talking down about former anti-government radicals, and boy, did you ever step in it.

IDIOTS, one and all...


7 posted on 03/02/2014 9:56:20 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: artichokegrower

Best Performance Ever By A White Chick Rappin’ Goes To:

Debbie Harry of ‘Blondie’ (’Rapture’) :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCdS7O248g


8 posted on 03/02/2014 9:57:10 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: artichokegrower

The truth is....... white people are colored as well..
and african americans are almost never from africa..

Rap music is not music it’s humans acting like chimps..
Barry is as white as he is black and his mother WAS a bitch..


9 posted on 03/02/2014 9:58:52 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: artichokegrower

I love most forms of music, but rap is not musical at all. The motown sounds of the 50’s - 70’s were great.


10 posted on 03/02/2014 10:08:01 AM PST by dainbramaged (Windage and elevation, Mrs. Langdon; windage and elevation.)
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To: artichokegrower

Wonder if all hell will break loose if one of these rappers uses the N word with Martin Luther King and Malcolm X in their lyrics?


11 posted on 03/02/2014 10:08:10 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: artichokegrower

Malcolm ex an icon? That’s weird. Unless you consider wanting to overthrow the US iconic.


12 posted on 03/02/2014 10:08:41 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What’s up, Fab Five Diana?


13 posted on 03/02/2014 10:21:02 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I want to go back in time and date her.


14 posted on 03/02/2014 10:28:01 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Steely Tom

Very well said.


15 posted on 03/02/2014 10:28:32 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: artichokegrower
"Has rap lost touch with black history? "

None of them knew any history to begin with.

16 posted on 03/02/2014 10:29:04 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: VanDeKoik

“Yooooooooooo....you got what I need......”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aofoBrFNdg


17 posted on 03/02/2014 10:31:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin

So do I, LOL! ;)


18 posted on 03/02/2014 10:34:12 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: rabidralph

Hey, Ralph. All is well in my little world. Hope yours is, too! Sick of winter, yet? Big thaw coming in a week, down here! Yippee! :)


19 posted on 03/02/2014 10:35:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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Less than $3.4k to go!!

Make Today, Day 61 the day!

20 posted on 03/02/2014 10:47:40 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!

That brings me back to Jr. High.


21 posted on 03/02/2014 10:50:11 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: rktman
Malcolm X peering out the window of his home, rifle in hand, trying to defend his wife and children from firebombs
Little bit of Black History not being taught at our educational institutions. Malcom X was assassinated by Elijah Muhammad and his Nation of Islam thugs. An organization now run by Obama's buddy Louis Farrakhan.
22 posted on 03/02/2014 10:51:27 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Rap was invented for blacks that can’t sing and whites that can’t dance.


23 posted on 03/02/2014 10:55:03 AM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: artichokegrower

There’s more to black history than the rage of the sixties...


24 posted on 03/02/2014 11:02:52 AM PST by GOPJ ("Putin's playing chess ... we’re playing marbles" - - Mike Rogers, R-Mich)
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To: cripplecreek

Unfortunately, Malcolm X’s earlier urgings to kill Whitey resonated more with Black males than MLK’s message of non-violence. Basically. Malcolm X helped create a lot of the violence and riots that occurred during the sixties. He’s not any kind of a hero to me even despite his so-called later conversion to non-violence.


25 posted on 03/02/2014 11:12:01 AM PST by driftless2
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To: artichokegrower
Yet another question: "Does anyone really care?"

Sorry, but I could care less anymore re "blacks", "the black experience", or anything else related to this entirely boring subculture.

26 posted on 03/02/2014 11:18:57 AM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: 98ZJ USMC
Has rap lost touch with black history?

It never was. It's crap.

In todays society and media the latter part of your response has a direct connection with the first statement.

27 posted on 03/02/2014 11:26:28 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

ROFL!


28 posted on 03/02/2014 11:30:38 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: artichokegrower
"I don't want to say today's rappers are not educated about black history, but they don't seem as aware as rap generations before them," said Jermaine Hall, editor-in-chief of Vibe, the hip-hop magazine and website.

While previous generations had to struggle with the racism and neglect of the 1970s or the crack epidemic of the 1980s, Hall said, today's young people have not faced the same type of racial struggle — "They're sort of getting further and further away from the civil rights movement."

"In the '80s, whether it was KRS-One, Public Enemy, or the Native Tongues, that entire movement, it was very in tune with black history," Hall said. "They knew everything about Malcolm, about Martin, about Rosa Parks. Now, the new rappers just aren't as in tune."

And yet the race baiters keep up their game even without the "racial struggle".

29 posted on 03/02/2014 12:49:35 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: artichokegrower; Revolting cat!

Will she be given a 15 yard penalty?


30 posted on 03/02/2014 12:56:56 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: artichokegrower

Um, are all Americans educated about American history? Shame.


31 posted on 03/02/2014 1:01:05 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: artichokegrower

I have been saying for years that we need more erudite, eloquent, educated, historically-aware rappers ...


32 posted on 03/02/2014 1:18:20 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Hey all is not lost. I’m sure most of current crop know about Trayvon.


33 posted on 03/02/2014 1:25:56 PM PST by xp38
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I been sick of winter! Yes, I’m looking forward to a little warming up. I miss seeing my driveway.


34 posted on 03/02/2014 3:42:54 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: VanDeKoik

Lasted for about 5 minutes in 1983. I remember, I was there.


35 posted on 03/02/2014 5:51:24 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: artichokegrower
What a laugh!!

First of all it's NOT music, it's not history and it's degenerate.


36 posted on 03/03/2014 4:17:07 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: artichokegrower
Malcom X is not "black history"...
37 posted on 03/03/2014 4:21:42 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: dfwgator

Man, that just gave me a flashback to ‘Yo MTV Raps’ in the late 80’s. Hilarious, thanks!


38 posted on 03/03/2014 4:22:56 PM PST by Textide
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To: Bon of Babble
First of all it's NOT music, it's not history and it's degenerate.

Rap music is indeed music, and in many instances, it has a lot to say (rather angrily, I might add) and it's certainly not intrinsically more degenerate than any other style of music. Rock, for example.

Yet I have discovered that there is art, creativity and powerful content in all genres of music, and rap is no exception.

It's certainly true that there's plenty of offensive stuff out there, end even though it's certainly not my favorite genre, there really is such a thing as good rap music.

Offhand, I can't cite much in the way of examples, though, but it's out there.

39 posted on 03/03/2014 5:03:29 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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