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Ukraine live: Putin says 'threat of ultranationalists' forced him to intervene - treason by admiral
Telegraph UK ^ | March 2, 2014

Posted on 03/02/2014 12:07:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Vladimir Putin has spoken to Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, and said that the "threat of violence from ultranationalists" forced him to intervene. In a sign of Putin's reach, Ukraine's head of navy has defected - and been charged with treason. All the latest news from Ukraine here

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: agitprop; obama; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
Many reports at source
1 posted on 03/02/2014 12:07:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

He wouldn’t have pulled this crap were RWR alive and in charge.

Heck, he wouldn’t have pulled this on Sarah Palin’s watch!

Or on the watch of Ted Cruz!


2 posted on 03/02/2014 12:10:29 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Putin has sanctioned us first!.....

By cancelling the broadcast of the Oscars! I vote to send Clooney, Afleck, and the rest to show him who’s boss!


3 posted on 03/02/2014 12:12:11 PM PST by Viennacon
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4 posted on 03/02/2014 12:12:43 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for posting this source. I’ve been checking out the continuous updates.


5 posted on 03/02/2014 12:15:55 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604; Jim Robinson
The Guardian (a Labour rag) also has decent live updates of world crisis situations, much like the one Jim posted from the (Tory) Telegraph. Also, my favorite site for fast aggregation is NewsNow.co.uk. The British point of view sometimes leaves much to be desired, but they are much better at what they do than the sorry media in this country.

6 posted on 03/02/2014 12:24:15 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think Putin knew for sometime the measures he would be taking concerning Chimea and the Ukraine once the demonstrations there esculated..... Sochi was a conveniant cover while he prepared to protect his assets there...bases etc...... He’s really doing nothing more than what we would do if our bases were significant to us....additionally maintaining and securing the flow of oil through Ukraine.

I think all this talk of war and such is media pushed....the whole ordeal has taken on a huge “political” run for International Leaders as well. Each stepping up to the plate.

In the end Putin will maintain his bases and likely Chimea will go Russian...because they want to. Ukrainians really need to think why they have Chimea when all opposition to their move toward Nato comes from there for the most part.

However, Putin sees this as well and does not want more Nato nations on his doorstep. So he’ll bend some along the way.


7 posted on 03/02/2014 12:25:13 PM PST by caww
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To: Jim Robinson

Kerry refused to go on Fox Sunday show. It went on all the others. I would say he is a chicken. Someone on Fox might actually ask him a real question!

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‘Oh dear God!’ Was this John Kerry Russia remark his most ludicrous yet?
Posted at 2:48 pm on March 2, 2014 by Twitchy Staff

jimgeraghty @jimgeraghty

Kerry on Russia this a.m.: “That is not the act of somebody who is strong. That is the act of somebody who is acting out of weakness.”
9:24 AM - 2 Mar 2014

jimgeraghty @jimgeraghty

Kerry interview transcript: http://natl.re/1gKAzZC
9:26 AM - 2 Mar 2014


8 posted on 03/02/2014 12:27:14 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Liberalism is a fantasy world.


9 posted on 03/02/2014 12:30:45 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: kcvl

I like the remark Kerry made on Friday I believe that the Russians just want to help the Ukraine economy.


10 posted on 03/02/2014 12:30:54 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Genoa

Thanks for sharing that link! I have many of the British newspapers bookmarked. You are right about the slant in many of them, but they do have stories we never see.


11 posted on 03/02/2014 12:33:30 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: caww

‘LULZ!’ This is how absurdly ABC spun Obama’s Putin phone call [pic]
Posted at 2:02 pm on March 2, 2014 by Twitchy Staff

schlute @coolhandschlute
HAHAHA “@ABC: Pres. Obama turns up diplomatic pressure on Putin as Ukraine stands in balance: http://abcn.ws/1bW3kVS pic.twitter.com/fks9G9miqq”
10:26 PM - 1 Mar 2014

ABC News @ABC

Pres. Obama turns up diplomatic pressure on Pres. Putin as Ukraine stands in the balance: http://abcn.ws/1bW3kVS
5:45 PM - 1 Mar 2014


12 posted on 03/02/2014 12:34:57 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Viennacon

Stacey Dash @REALStaceyDash
This is #Putin’s idea of community organizing.

Em @lamblock
Everyone say a prayer for @REALStaceyDash because she is about to get a lot of hate over this awesome tweet—> https://twitter.com/realstaceydash/status/439907126451113984
6:01 PM - 1 Mar 2014


13 posted on 03/02/2014 12:36:33 PM PST by kcvl
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To: caww

Putin is following the example of Hitler (see Austria and the Sudetenland, and also Poland, as a matter of fact): use minorities as an excuse to intervene for their protection. Putin is essentially a KGB barbarian. He could have lived peacefully with Ukraine, but he does not understand any source of wealth but conquest. The Russians love this, because this is in their primitive, barbarian nature — and (I sometimes think) most of the good Russians were eliminated in the revolution, the civil war, and the Gulags.

Our misfortune is that we have a dim-witted President, totally unqualified and unmotivated to protect American interests. Under Obama, the world has been spiraling downward toward war and conflict, because weakness does not make for peace.

If we do not replace the rulers in Washington, we are surely doomed, and the majority will deserve it.


14 posted on 03/02/2014 12:38:17 PM PST by docbnj
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To: docbnj

And I forgot to add:
Never, never, never trust the Russians.


15 posted on 03/02/2014 12:39:28 PM PST by docbnj
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Melissa Clouthier @Melissa

RT @whpresscorps: FLASHBACK VIDEO: Obama to Medvedev: ‘After my election I have more flexibility’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE
4:04 PM - 28 Feb 2014

Jake Tapper @jaketapper

....this does not seem like someone who has “more flexibility”...
4:08 PM - 28 Feb 2014
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16 posted on 03/02/2014 12:39:36 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Most recognize this is a match between Putin and Obama....Obama cannot stand alone nor state anything which Putin will consider any sort of threat...all Obama has is to use whatever leverage he has to get other nations to demand Russia pull back...in reality Putin will do so once Ukraine is stable with a Government comprising ALL the people not just those wanting to move toward Nato. IMO.

Obamas moves mean nothing, really, rather the EU and surrounding nations are determining how this goes with Putin...Obama is bringing up the rear as usual.


17 posted on 03/02/2014 12:41:17 PM PST by caww
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To: Rusty0604

WASHINGTON: Russia is ready to help Ukraine as it seeks to stave off economic collapse, US Secretary of State John Kerry said on Friday after talking with his Russian counterpart.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov indicated during a Friday phone call “that they are prepared to be engaged and be involved in helping to deal with the economic transition that needs to take place at this point,” Kerry told reporters.

The top US diplomat said he had stressed during the call with Lavrov the urgent need to focus on Ukraine’s economy as the IMF prepares to send a fact-finding mission to the cash-strapped country.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/russia-ready-to-help/1016102.html

The top US diplomat revealed earlier this week that Washington is preparing to offer Kiev a US$1 billion loan guarantee, and an as yet undecided amount of direct aid. The EU is also mulling a similar loan guarantee.

Ukraine owes US$13 billion in state debt payments this year - a massive sum in a country where state reserves have shrunk to less than US$18 billion.

And Kiev has suffered from Russia’s decision to freeze a US$15 billion dollar bailout package after a first US$3 billion tranche was used up.


18 posted on 03/02/2014 12:44:58 PM PST by kcvl
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To: caww

“...Obama is bringing up the rear as usual.”

...Obama is taking it up the rear as usual.


19 posted on 03/02/2014 12:47:48 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: docbnj

I don’t buy all that crap about Putin....he’s still a thug but how he’s conducting himself on the International Stage overall does not attest to the old Russian tactics. All you need to do is follow who he’s been in contact with before and since he made his moves to protect his bases in Chimea and establish a firm hand in securing the areas he could where there would not be much resistance.

Putin had a right to protect his bases there...and stabilize Ukraine as much as possible...who else would go in? Europe wouldn’t and neither would the U.S. The idea was that once the protestors outed the Pres. to prevent the “creeps” fast organizing to do their deeds in Ukraine....and they were organizing. Including Muslim factions etc.

Nobody under estimates how far Putin will go if he has to...but Europe isn’t about to cut off their oil stream from Russia....and as we all see the International community is mostly about “talking” because they indirectly support Putins military “holding down the fort” if you will.

The only way Ukraine can go Nato is if Ukraine splits....those who want to join Nato want their cake and eat it too....they don’t want to sacrifice half their country to get what they want...and the Western half isn’t about ready to disengage entirely from Russia.

So it’s basically still, and will remain a divided country.


20 posted on 03/02/2014 12:53:59 PM PST by caww
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To: docbnj

My fear is obama is reading all the “weak” talk and he’ll go “all in” to prove how tough he is. Maybe this will be the breaking point for the Joint Chiefs and/or other military higher ups.


21 posted on 03/02/2014 12:54:01 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Historically there is no record of these kind of events ever ending without tremendous loss, and here we stand with friggen spoiled hippies running our own village!
God help us!


22 posted on 03/02/2014 12:55:31 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: kcvl

This is simply Kerry’s attempt to seem significant....all was already stated at the UN meeting by Russian Representatives who spoke there.

Even though the UN is powerless....when the International Leaders do speak there it pays to hear what each nation states when it comes to International Crisis as in Ukraine.

Kerry’s trying to take credit where it was already clearly stated at the UN meeting about Ukraine...as if it’s new news.


23 posted on 03/02/2014 12:59:15 PM PST by caww
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To: Jim Robinson

Of course, Putin fails to say that he himself is an ultranationalist. It’s okay as long as it’s Russian “exceptionalism”.


24 posted on 03/02/2014 1:05:34 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: PhiloBedo
Well....that too...and it's frustrating for U.S. citizens to see our President so weak and yet attempt to be significant when all know he is not on the World Stage. That is not going to change. We're stuck with him until he's gone unfortunately.

I for one no longer am surprised, or angry with what Obama does or doesn't do.....we've known his agenda from the start...I'm more angry and bitter toward our congress...they ALL need to go! Every last one of them!

25 posted on 03/02/2014 1:08:26 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

Amen!


26 posted on 03/02/2014 1:10:29 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Ukraine live: Putin says 'threat of ultranationalists' forced after Sochi's Olympics -in order to avoid a boycott- him to intervene - treason by admiral taking advantage of weak Western leadership is easier than seizing candy from a blind, dumb, deaf baby
27 posted on 03/02/2014 1:11:35 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: kcvl

The Rocky 4 comment slayed me. What next? Batman?


28 posted on 03/02/2014 1:15:15 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Jim Robinson

Utranationalists...aka Tea Party. Obama must be jealous.


29 posted on 03/02/2014 1:18:11 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: docbnj

Putin and his old bosses from USSR murdered and deported millions of the Turks and Ukraine and German populations in Crimea / east Ukraine and shipped in loyal Russians .
These Russians are about as native as the Boa is to the everglades and just as welcome and dangerous.


30 posted on 03/02/2014 1:30:31 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: docbnj
Putin is following the example of Hitler (see Austria and the Sudetenland, and also Poland, as a matter of fact): use minorities as an excuse to intervene for their protection

What he is doing isn't comparable to the Nazi invasions. No one has been killed. And, the majority in the areas he is entering are pro-Russian. Protecting Crimea is vital to Russian national interests.

It's only if Putin moves to takeover all of Ukraine that he'd be in the Hitler category.

31 posted on 03/02/2014 1:30:58 PM PST by Kazan
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To: onyx
He wouldn’t have pulled this crap were RWR alive and in charge.

For eight glorious years in the 1980s, not one Russian soldier dared enter Ukraine...

Oh wait.

C'mon there's a huge difference between the Russians meddling in Nicaragua, El Salvador and Grenada and them meddling in Ukraine, a country that's not only on their border, but which was part of the Russian Empire for 350 years from 1654 to 1991 and which still contains 8 million ethnic Russians (20% of the population) plus vast numbers of Ukrainians who identify culturally with Russia.

32 posted on 03/02/2014 1:40:30 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

And what was our meddling in Georgia?


33 posted on 03/02/2014 1:41:27 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Kazan
It's only if Putin moves to takeover all of Ukraine that he'd be in the Hitler category.

Even then he wouldn't be Hitler. Ukraine was an integral part of Russia for 350 years starting in 1654. Pretending that Russia doesn't have significant historical, economic, ethnic, and security interests in control over Ukraine is silly. I hope Putin doesn't invade Ukraine proper -- I think that would be catastrophic for both countries -- but we're not looking at Hitler II.

34 posted on 03/02/2014 1:43:49 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: TADSLOS

I would LOVE to know who leaked this conversation of Nuland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM


35 posted on 03/02/2014 1:43:50 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: PhiloBedo
Putins well aware of faces like this... Tatar in Simferopol Feb 26, 2014


36 posted on 03/02/2014 1:45:04 PM PST by caww
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To: Genoa
Also, my favorite site for fast aggregation is NewsNow.co.uk

Took a look at that one, and the Ukraine situation is way down the page (6'th group down) below the Oscars and other stuff. They also appear to have a very pro-DNC spin to them.

37 posted on 03/02/2014 1:46:07 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: dfwgator
And what was our meddling in Georgia?

A mistake. I'm not sure why it's still important for the US to arm and promote enemies on Russia's doorstep. We have no strategic interests in Georgia other than aggravating and "containing" Russia, which makes no sense given that Russia no longer plausibly poses a risk of world domination. Containment may have made sense in the 1950s -- it's pointless in 2014. While it's unfortunate that powerful countries pick on weaker neighbors, it's a fact of life and will be forever.

38 posted on 03/02/2014 1:46:38 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: caww
Oleg Lyashko and Yakov Bezbakh Peoples deputies in session...Feb.28,2014


39 posted on 03/02/2014 1:47:05 PM PST by caww
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To: Alter Kaker

The State Department needs an enema to clear out all the crap still trying to fight the Cold War.


40 posted on 03/02/2014 1:49:14 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Cementjungle

I’m just recommending them for fast updates, that’s all. They aggregate from all of the usual sources, so you have to click with discernment! You can save the page that is specifically designated Ukraine:
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/World+News/Europe/Eastern/Ukraine


41 posted on 03/02/2014 2:10:52 PM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: RummyChick

The State Department is completely infested.


42 posted on 03/02/2014 2:34:43 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Nothing signifigant will happen here unless the Exempt Ones have their Exempt status’ threatened, or they can see a way to gain further Exempt-Extortion-Cares at the expense of others.


43 posted on 03/02/2014 3:01:43 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Kazan
What he is doing isn't comparable to the Nazi invasions. No one has been killed.

There was no fighting in the Sudeten crisis. On October 1st 1938, the Czech frontier guards left their posts and German troops occupied the Sudetenland.
44 posted on 03/02/2014 3:15:32 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: ncalburt

Same thing happening with Mexicans in California and throughout the southwest.


45 posted on 03/02/2014 6:42:20 PM PST by rsflawyer (Give us this day our daily outrage and forgive us our inaction as we forgive those who tread on us.)
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To: rsflawyer

yes its looks planned too just like the Soviet repopulation strategy.


46 posted on 03/02/2014 7:06:33 PM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: docbnj
Your post reminds me of a quote:

"The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinese or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and they are all out sons-of-bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks."

-- George S. Patton

47 posted on 03/02/2014 7:30:17 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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