Skip to comments.Turkey caught in the Russia-Crimea snowstorm
Posted on 03/02/2014 5:48:25 PM PST by BlackVeil
As I am writing this article, Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoğlu is still in Ukraine to discuss the situation in the Crimea region. ... In an article in last weeks Russian Pravda, it was noted that if Ukraine was divided, then the status of the Crimean Peninsula returned to Ukraine in 1954 by Nikita Kruschev, would be open to discussion, and that would include Turkey having a say in the future of Crimea.
Russia gains control over Crimea
The reference to this claim is the Küçük Kaynarca (Karlowitz I) signed 230 years ago. As per this agreement, signed by the Russian Tsarina Catherine II on April 19, 1783, the Crimean Peninsula was taken away from the dominion of the Ottomans and handed over to Russia. However, one of the most important provisions of this treaty was the debarment of independence for the Peninsula and outlawing its submission to a third party: Should any such attempt be made, then Crimea would automatically have to be returned to the sovereignty of Turkey.
When Ukraine appeared as an independent nation following the disintegration of the USSR in 1991, Turkey acquired the right to claim the Peninsula back based on the Treaty of Küçük Kaynarca ...
(Excerpt) Read more at english.alarabiya.net ...
When do the turks give back Constantinople?
I say good. Let the Russians worry about the Turks, they’re going to turn on us at some point (the turks, if they havn’t secretly already).
Interesting but IMHO, if they didn’t object and/or participate when Ukraine became independent, they voided their own deal.
I wondering that too LOL!
In the immortal words of Lee Corso, Mr. Putin..”Not so fast”.
Interesting history. But beyond silly as law. Europe would look very different if based on 1789 treaties.
But a bigger take away is that since the era of Catherine the Great, Russia has controlled Crimea.
That’s why this case of the vapors will go nowhere. Its been home to the Russian fleet since it had tall ships,,, with sails.
I completely agree - that old Treaty is long since obsolete - but it is a record of claims which are still valid in the eyes of some nations in the Middle East - especially Turkey.
Turkey sees itself as the protector of the Tatar people of the Crimea. They, in turn, are Muslim and anti-Russian. Many of them managed to return to the homeland after decades of exile, as described in that article, and they are now a growing Crimean minority.
In my misspent youth there was a period when some Arabs were working hard to persuade me to Islam. Several times during these sessions when we were all very drunk (yeah, I know) they would opine that somehow Spain still belonged to them.
Why did The Crimea get the works?
So basically Russia will have to annex Crimea outright.
tell that to the Armenians
Parasitic Turks have no say in anything.
Or the Greeks who colonized the whole Black Sea area well before all of them except the Turks and the Russians deported or murdered them during the Soviet era as well as Catherine the Great another monster.
The large Russian population was relocated by the Soviet era .
All this crap that its Russian is pure propaganda
Crimea people voted back in 2000 to stay part of the Ukraine but semi autonomous. .
I think Putin should march Russian troops into Turkey and reinstate orthodox Christianty.
He’d be a hero if he did that.
Based on the treaty:
Article XIV-Grants permission to the High Court of Russia to build a public church of the Greek ritual in Istanbul. The church will always be under the protection of the ministers of the Russian Empire.
He’d also cause the automatic invoking of the NATO Treaty (Turkey is a long standing member) meaning the probable start of WWIII. And the Turkish military, even if they had to fight on their own, are no light weights. Unless Russia were to go nuclear they could probably hand Putin’s Russian military, which had its hands full dealing with the Chechens, their heads on a platter.
As far as Western Ukraine goes, the Poles are sending a message to Putin there as well. These aren’t the Poles of 39, they’ve been in Iraq and Afghanistan, and will go toe-to-toe with them if it comes down to it (pray it doesn’t).