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World View: Russia Declares the Autonomous Republic of Crimea
Breitbart's Big Peace ^ | March 2, 2014 | John J. Xenakis

Posted on 03/02/2014 11:55:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

This morning's key headlines from GenerationalDynamics.com:

•Russia declares the Autonomous Republic of Crimea
•Strategic consequences of Russia's conquest of Crimea
•North Korea fires short-range missiles into the sea

Russia declares the Autonomous Republic of Crimea

It appears that Russia has taken control of Crimea without firing a shot and is referring to it as the "Autonomous Republic of Crimea," presumably with the intention of making it a puppet state of Moscow.

Ukraine's government in Kiev is only a few days old and seems to be in disarray. So far, it's avoiding any strong military overreaction that would provide Russia with an excuse for a further military invasion, perhaps into eastern Ukraine beyond Crimea. However, the government warned Sunday it was on the brink of disaster and called up military reservists to counter Russia's threat to Ukraine.

Russia has appointed Sergey Aksyonov to prime minister of Crimea, and on Sunday he announced:

I believe that this day will go down in history of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea as the day that all law enforcement agencies were established in the autonomy. We will prove that the Crimeans are capable of protecting themselves and ensure the safety and freedom of our citizens.

...

Today the Autonomous Republic of Crimea is formed as an independent, integral public authority. I am sure that all of us will prove that we did not just come into power and that we can give Crimeans what they expect from us.

We will never see 'Maidan' with their black smoke and burned tires here. I responsibly promise that Crimea by May will be calm, quiet, friendly. People of all nationalities will live here happily....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; obama; putin; russia; ukraine
Putin: "Checkmate!" Obama: "Bingo!"
1 posted on 03/02/2014 11:55:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s been called Autonomous Crimea since Russia gave it to the Ukraine back circa 1990.

Bretbart fail.


2 posted on 03/02/2014 11:59:00 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Putin is playing chess, while Obama is playing checkers”.


3 posted on 03/02/2014 11:59:50 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Southack

“It’s been called Autonomous Crimea since” ...

Krustchev, at the time of the Soviet Union, attached Crimea to the USSR of Ukraine in 1954.
From then on Crimea has been an autonoumus republic, with its own Prime Minister, government, parliment and own budget.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 12:04:05 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

Well it’s “autonomous” as long as they do as Moscow wants.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 12:05:34 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Well, looks like Crimea also wants what Russia wants.
Their two violons play the same tune.


6 posted on 03/03/2014 12:07:56 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

Frankly it never should have belonged to Ukraine.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 12:08:51 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
Well it’s “autonomous” as long as they do as Moscow wants.

It's been a completely consensual relationship.

8 posted on 03/03/2014 12:08:59 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Marguerite

Putin is playing chess, and Obama is his pawn/hooker...


9 posted on 03/03/2014 12:09:43 AM PST by RedHeeler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well why not. We cut Serbia in half.


10 posted on 03/03/2014 12:15:28 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: dfwgator

“Frankly it never should have belonged to Ukraine”

It never really did, except on paper.
Soviet Union, and after it, the Russian Federation, continued to own a huge naval base in Sevastopol, Crimea with a 20,000 military force, since 1954.


11 posted on 03/03/2014 12:24:39 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: MarMema

I gotta ask- how did “we” cut Serbia in half?


12 posted on 03/03/2014 12:25:23 AM PST by RedHeeler
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To: MarMema

“Well why not. We cut Serbia in half.”

I don’t recall that at the time, the US, EU and NATO cared then for Serbia’s “sovereignity and territorial integrity”, like they say to care now about Ukraine’s.
The contradictions posture doesn’t seem to bother them, or trouble their sleep, even though no one of them is ready “to die for Kiev”.


13 posted on 03/03/2014 12:30:18 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: RedHeeler

We gave part of it to a new “country” Kosovo. Which is a heroin running nightmare in Europe.


14 posted on 03/03/2014 12:30:49 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: RedHeeler

By getting involved in Bosnia and Kosovo and negotiating the ridiculous Dayton Accords, and that same crew gave us the equally ridiculous Budapest Memorandum that created this mess in the first place.


15 posted on 03/03/2014 12:30:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

So, a binding contract was made with Islam?


16 posted on 03/03/2014 12:35:11 AM PST by RedHeeler
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To: RedHeeler

Ok not half but we still did something against international law in general. Took part of a country away and let it be autonomous. And handed the leadership of it to a former terrorist per the US.


17 posted on 03/03/2014 12:36:02 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Marguerite

The Serbs seem to be universally disliked and I don’t know why....


18 posted on 03/03/2014 12:36:43 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: RedHeeler

“I gotta ask- how did “we” cut Serbia in half?”

Have you forgotten Clinton’s bombing of Serbia and the splitting of Kosovo from it? It was not so long ago.

US and France’s bombing of Serbia began on March 24, 1999. It continued for 80 freaking days and thousands of Serbians were killed.


19 posted on 03/03/2014 12:39:46 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: RedHeeler

Putin is trying to keep his warm water port. The only one Russia has...


20 posted on 03/03/2014 12:40:34 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema

International law? Perhaps. Moral law? Without doubt! My question is- why?


21 posted on 03/03/2014 12:46:03 AM PST by RedHeeler
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To: MarMema

I don’t know why either.

But Europe is full now of Kosovar pimps, drug, prostitutes and arms dealers. Their mafia is a real pest in Italy and France.


22 posted on 03/03/2014 12:46:12 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite; RedHeeler
And what a triumph in leadership.

Makes Chechnya look like a place to vacation...

23 posted on 03/03/2014 12:47:16 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: dfwgator

Per The Godfather, Putin:

Either your Autonomy or your Brains will be on that Contract.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 12:49:30 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: Marguerite

My guess is a pipeline and Camp Bondsteel.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 12:51:05 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema

Ah, but we were the good guys — we saved the ROP in that part of the world and in payment for our good deed we gave up the WTC on 9/11/2001.


26 posted on 03/03/2014 12:52:01 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: MarMema
And Hillary wants to make the former terrorist heroin king the leader of a NATO country
27 posted on 03/03/2014 12:53:51 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: 353FMG
After killing a lot of Christians in Serbia where historic old churches were destroyed by Albanian thugs.

It's a mystery...I will never understand..

28 posted on 03/03/2014 12:56:05 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Marguerite

No, his use of NATO as a go-by/buy, has never escaped my attention. Clinton and a few others, should be fully prosecuted for War Crimes against Humanity. There were no good players in the mix, yet- he sided Our Country with the worst. Profit was the motivation, and it is complex to fully describe, in this forum.


29 posted on 03/03/2014 12:58:50 AM PST by RedHeeler
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To: Marguerite

Tiddlywinks.


30 posted on 03/03/2014 1:20:35 AM PST by 22202NOVA ("Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage." -- H.L. Mencken)
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To: MarMema
Camp Bondsteel

That's probably why Obama and Kerry supported the putsch in Ukraine. They wanted a new camp Bondsteel there

Bondsteel, the biggest US military camp in Europe, had to close down in juin 2013. Why is it still open? It has little value as a regional base since it lacks an airstrip with aircraft hangars. It has no port or rail facilities nor ammunition warehouses. The 750 soldiers left there are amusing themselves in games like "what to do, if a suspicious package is left in a public place?" ...

31 posted on 03/03/2014 5:51:00 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gee, where's Ukraine?


32 posted on 03/03/2014 5:53:23 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: MarMema
The problem with your (the Serb) argument is that it's endless. Russia does something bad, such as invade Georgia, and the response is "but Serbia." Russia invades Ukraine? But Serbia.

The consequence of making the argument is that, by reflexively defending the Russian action by claiming that Serbia was wronged, you effectively defend the American action by claiming that Ukraine/Georgia is ok.

33 posted on 03/03/2014 5:57:27 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Southack

It’s been called the Autonomous Republic of Crimea since 1921. Ukraines had no association with Crimea until 1954, when Nikita Krushchev (himself a native of Ukraine) and premier of the Soviet Union transferred the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic from the Russian Federation to the Ukraine S.S.R. I guess the commies thought the U.S.S.R. was going to last forever. As far as I know, the Ukraines did nothing to deserve this prize and now the Russians, who wrested control of Crimea from the Ottoman Empire way back when, want it back. The Ukraine nationalists helped them by recently outlawing use of the Russian language, spoken by the majority of the Crimean population.


34 posted on 03/03/2014 6:09:44 AM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Autonomous Republic of Crimea,"

Because that is what it is. Of course without those votes it will be impossible for a pro Russian parliament or leader to be elected.

35 posted on 03/03/2014 6:09:58 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Procyon

One correction, Khrushchev was ethnic Russian, he served as boss of Ukraine, under Stalin.

So he was trying to make nice with the Ukrainians, remember at the time he hadn’t fully consolidated power, so this was a gesture to get the Ukrainians on his side.


36 posted on 03/03/2014 6:11:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: RedHeeler
My question is- why?

Ask a neoconservative ideologue this question and they'll likely tell you because 'it serves US geopolitical ends to weaken Russian hegemony' or some other mindless weasel "great game" trope.

Our entire government on both sodes of the aisle needs to be deloused.

37 posted on 03/03/2014 6:16:52 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: dfwgator

I stand corrected. No matter who claimed sovereignty over the borderlands village where Khrushchev was born, he was ethnically Russian. So it’s still mysterious how Ukraine was able to gain sovereignty over Crimea. Ukraine is in for a whole lot of hurt. The young people there whether ethnic Russian or Ukraine see no hope for the future if chained to the Russian Empire. The Ukraine nationalists are doing their best to discriminate against Russian speakers. And this just drives them into Putin’s arms.


38 posted on 03/03/2014 6:29:33 AM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: Procyon

... Or gives Putin an excuse to “rescue” his brothers.


39 posted on 03/03/2014 6:31:42 AM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: dfwgator

“Frankly it never should have belonged to Ukraine.”

Exactly.


40 posted on 03/03/2014 6:37:35 AM PST by Finalmente
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To: MarMema

“The Serbs seem to be universally disliked and I don’t know why....”

They’re Christians. That is why.


41 posted on 03/03/2014 6:37:35 AM PST by Finalmente
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Crimea is so autonomous that Russia declares it for them. Whether they like it or not.


42 posted on 03/03/2014 6:54:53 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, Moscow is now DISMEMBERING the Ukraine!


43 posted on 03/03/2014 7:36:12 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

QUESTION: If Ukraine still had their nukes, would the Red Army have invaded???


44 posted on 03/03/2014 7:37:15 AM PST by 2harddrive
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