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Obamacare: You Can Get In, But Can You Get Out?
Personal Liberty Digest ^ | March 3, 2014 | Ben Bullard

Posted on 03/03/2014 2:50:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

What happens if you enroll in Obamacare and then decide somewhere down the road that you want out? It’s early days, but here’s one Florida man’s anecdote — and it’s not encouraging.

“People who signed up for coverage are finding it impossible to cancel their plans,” reported Orlando’s WFTL-TV last week in a feature highlighting an Orange County man who, after six weeks of effort, had not been able to extricate himself from the Federal health plan.

“Andrew Robinson was looking forward to getting health insurance through the Affordable Care Act,” explained reporter Lori Brown. “He has a small publishing business and works part time, so he hasn’t had coverage. In early January, he signed up for a plan that cost nearly $300 a month. About a half hour later, he and his wife realized they could barely afford that. They quickly found a less expensive plan through Humana — for $116 a month.”

Whoops. That uneasy feeling you may have had about throwing your personal information into a bureaucratic black hole may have been well justified, if what happened to Robinson is any indication.

“I immediately called back the Florida Blue and asked them to cancel the policy I just set up,” he said. But this isn’t Amazon.com; it’s Obamacare:

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)

[H]e quickly learned canceling Obamacare is no easy task. He says Florida Blue told him if he signed up for the other policy, his Florida Blue policy would cancel automatically.

“I got the premium two days later, and it almost wiped out our account.”

More than six weeks later, after spending 50 to 60 hours on the phone, his policy is still not canceled. And he is still waiting for the payment Florida Blue withdrew from his account to be refunded.

“This is like, just taking my patience right to the end; and I am on the verge of just exploding,” Robinson said.

According to Florida Blue, the company can’t cancel Robinson’s insurance until it receives notification from the Federal insurance marketplace that he has, in fact, obtained other insurance to take its place.

And that brings up another enforcement feature of Obamacare that, so far, has been overshadowed by the hoopla over the Internal Revenue Service’s expanded powers: The Federal health care marketplace itself can act as an Obamacare enforcer, tethering people who voluntarily approached the exchange for coverage to their initial decision for a very long time — no matter whether they later wish to exercise their own free will to drop coverage outright, or simply find a better deal somewhere else.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: barryofthebungle; democratcare; gimme; obamacare
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One more thing.
1 posted on 03/03/2014 2:50:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.


2 posted on 03/03/2014 2:53:07 AM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only people that have access to my account are for “goesinto” not “goesoutof”.


3 posted on 03/03/2014 2:56:47 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: DemforBush

This begs for a parody of Hotel California. “You can keep your Doc, what a laughing stock!”


4 posted on 03/03/2014 3:01:43 AM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since Obamacare does not apply to me, I do not know all the nuances, but it was my impression that it will be the ONLY health care plan available.
I remember the big lies, “if you like your plan, you can keep it.” “If you like your doctor, you can keep him.”
I am interested in hearing how FReepers are dealing with the fiasco.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 3:03:24 AM PST by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And he is still waiting for the payment Florida Blue withdrew from his account to be refunded.

That ability of Obama care to withdraw funds from your bank account always bothered me.

The Dims always were harping on the choice the poor had to make between eating and healthcare.

Well thanks to Obama Care they no longer have to worry about that choice. It will always be Obama Care first last and always.

6 posted on 03/03/2014 3:08:05 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

“Hotel California”

Bump!


7 posted on 03/03/2014 3:20:15 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

TOTALITARIANCARE: THE MOST EVIL PIECE OF LEGISLATION EVER FORCED ON THE CITIZENS OF THIS “free” republic. Life (or abort), control (FORCED/CONFI$CATION/IR$), death decider$.


8 posted on 03/03/2014 3:22:32 AM PST by PGalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doesn’t the government have some sort of Consumer Scam telephone number to alert the public?

If they do, they should drop a dime on ObamaCare en masse.


9 posted on 03/03/2014 3:23:57 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKhGHxO-woc


10 posted on 03/03/2014 3:31:52 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Harry says you are a liar.


11 posted on 03/03/2014 3:38:50 AM PST by WKB
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To: lowbridge

LOL! Indeed Obamacare is closer to the roach motel than Hotel California! At least at the Hotel they had “pink champagne on ice.”


12 posted on 03/03/2014 3:40:55 AM PST by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hump one sheep and you are forever known as a sheephumper.


13 posted on 03/03/2014 3:44:34 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“According to Florida Blue, the company can’t cancel Robinson’s insurance until it receives notification from the Federal insurance marketplace that he has, in fact, obtained other insurance to take its place.”

Well, isn’t that special? Zero-don’t-care is an abomination. Thank you, CJ Roberts.


14 posted on 03/03/2014 3:50:24 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Pontiac
G-r-e-a-t post.

The Obamacare collaborators have their greedy hands on all that untraceable healthcare income.....fees, penalties, charges*....in league w/ the punitive IRS. Obamacare's a con artist's dream---the thieves can withdraw funds from enrollees' bank accounts, at will.

THIS MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD Lock-stepping Dims kept harping on the need for O/Care----they whined about the poor uninsured having to make the choice between eating and healthcare. Now, thanks to the Godzillian monster O/Care, they no longer have to worry about choice. Obama fixed it so that it will always be Obama Care, first, last, and always.

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* So much money has NOT been accounted for----

<><> the millions paid to CGI for the botched rollout,

<><> mad scientist Ezekiel Emanuel (Rahm's bro) got a BILLION dollars to design this boondoggle,

<><> botched state exchanges got millions and millions, then failed to enroll people.

15 posted on 03/03/2014 4:06:50 AM PST by Liz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

sorta like the roach hotels..............roaches check in and they can’t check out


16 posted on 03/03/2014 4:24:08 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These people are all liars. Just ask Harry Reid.


17 posted on 03/03/2014 4:32:10 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Mr. Robinson had closed his bank account the minute he got the Humana policy, he wouldn’t have this problem.


18 posted on 03/03/2014 4:34:40 AM PST by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t be foolish. No one would ever want to get OUT of Obamacare. It’s such a good deal that there would never be any reason to have a way to get rid of it.


19 posted on 03/03/2014 4:41:36 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“the company can’t cancel Robinson’s insurance until it receives notification from the Federal insurance marketplace that he has, in fact, obtained other insurance to take its place. “

This is illegal. Just like every other provision of obamacare.


20 posted on 03/03/2014 4:49:07 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

-— More than six weeks later, after spending 50 to 60 hours on the phone -—

This will come as a surprise to no one here, yet this scenario mystifies liberals. The liberal mind is a frightening thing.


21 posted on 03/03/2014 4:56:34 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s like a Roach Motel.


22 posted on 03/03/2014 5:04:33 AM PST by oblomov
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ObamaCare - just like Islam and the Mafia - you can get in no problem, but getting out? You gotta die first, buddy!


23 posted on 03/03/2014 5:07:57 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is ridiculous. All hed had to do was cease paying. All he had to do was instruct the bank to cease paying the autodrafts. Or, he should withdraw all the money and close the account.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 5:10:42 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ø'care is like a big ball.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 5:14:20 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So! Obamacare is like a Roach Motel.


26 posted on 03/03/2014 5:21:01 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Welcome To The Hotel Barack Obama

Relax said Sebelius,
We are programmed to receive.
You can check out any time you like,
But you can never leave.


27 posted on 03/03/2014 5:33:21 AM PST by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Don’t be foolish.
No one would ever want to get OUT of Obamacare.

Why take a chance on losing your $2,500 from King Obama????


28 posted on 03/03/2014 5:36:25 AM PST by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obamacare is giant Roach Motel!


29 posted on 03/03/2014 5:45:10 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Iron Munro

Paging Paul Shanklin, Paul Shanklin!!!!


30 posted on 03/03/2014 6:10:31 AM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave".
31 posted on 03/03/2014 6:21:14 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: DemforBush

I guess I should have read a few comments before I posted...


32 posted on 03/03/2014 6:22:14 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the procedure for getting out of Obamacare once one has signed up for it is exactly the same as the procedure for getting out of "Social Security" once one had signed up for that.

Death is the only escape.

33 posted on 03/03/2014 6:24:29 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From what I’ve read elsewhere, this payment is automatically deducted from his bank account.

Close the account, open a new one with different bank account numbers. End of problem.


34 posted on 03/03/2014 6:27:11 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: C210N

Yes.

A big ball of bovine butt butter.


35 posted on 03/03/2014 6:28:30 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was told I would be on my employer’s plan by February, but lo and behold, Obamacare muddled things up, so now I have to wait until November.

I was considering taking something from the healthcare.gov website until then (only considering really. I don’t trust the site at all), but now I think I’ll just wait and take the chance.


36 posted on 03/03/2014 6:56:23 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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BARRY OF THE BUNGLE













37 posted on 03/03/2014 8:57:06 AM PST by devolve (- and so I face the vinyl curtain - I will still misspell the simplest words - I did it my whey)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid; 2ndDivisionVet; ntnychik; MEG33; JustAmy; yorkie; LUV W; Jane Long; Lady Jag; ..

38 posted on 03/03/2014 9:18:53 AM PST by potlatch ("Dream as if you'll live forever...Live as if you'll die today")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ACA, is juste like the “Roach Motel!”


39 posted on 03/03/2014 9:23:41 AM PST by vette6387
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To: potlatch

Perfect!!

This witch was in TX last week extolling the *wonderful benefits* of 0SocialismCare. Every word they played of hers was a LIE! Why she’s even allowed to set foot in this state is beyond me.


40 posted on 03/03/2014 10:03:34 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: potlatch

Great graphic, Potlatch! Scary scenario! ~~shudder~~


41 posted on 03/03/2014 10:05:17 AM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
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To: Pontiac

This would make me re-think a bank account. I expect there will be people moving to cash only before this is killed. Hopefully, the next president can take it out. God help us if he/she can’t!....or won’t!


42 posted on 03/03/2014 10:09:17 AM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
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To: Jane Long

Thanks Jane, I didn’t even know she was in Texas! Missed seeing that but wouldn’t go near her if I did, lol. Bill Clinton came to my town one time and I didn’t go down to the square to see him, lol.


43 posted on 03/03/2014 10:20:54 AM PST by potlatch ("Dream as if you'll live forever...Live as if you'll die today")
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To: LUV W; 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you Luv. Scary but true scenario I believe. Made that some time ago after reading some threads, and was going to post a thread using it but never got to it. 2nd Division Vet put up the Exact title needed, lol.


44 posted on 03/03/2014 10:25:26 AM PST by potlatch ("Dream as if you'll live forever...Live as if you'll die today")
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To: Liz
Thanks Liz

The hypocrisy of the Libs when it comes to this Obama Care fiasco his just mind numbing.

3 million people sign up for Obama Care and 6 million loose their health care because of Obama Care (and they’re all liars, every single one of them).

It just makes me want to scream.

45 posted on 03/03/2014 1:51:07 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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46 posted on 03/03/2014 1:52:06 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: LUV W
This would make me re-think a bank account. I expect there will be people moving to cash only before this is killed.

Unfortunately most wage earning people are forced to have a bank account these days so their pay check can be direct deposited.

Pretty hard to live on a cash bases these days for that and a lot of other reasons.

47 posted on 03/03/2014 2:01:03 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: potlatch

Terrific, potlatch!


48 posted on 03/03/2014 3:21:25 PM PST by MEG33
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To: MEG33

Thanks so much Meg!


49 posted on 03/03/2014 3:42:31 PM PST by potlatch ("Dream as if you'll live forever...Live as if you'll die today")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are stealthily putting people into state medicare so they can seize the patients assets when they die. They even seize homes when the spouse is still living in it!! It is purposeful and insidious.


50 posted on 03/03/2014 4:28:59 PM PST by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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