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Responsible gun owners should welcome sensible gun laws
PAhouse.com ^ | 3/2/2014 | Rep. Ronald G. Waters

Posted on 03/03/2014 7:12:49 AM PST by rktman

Much has been said and written in favor of and opposition to gun control since the Sandy Hook tragedy unfolded.

The heinous crime has cracked the half-century-long gun debate wide open, bringing the discourse from the margins to prime time and center stage. On Tuesday, Vice President Joe Biden issued a set of gun control recommendations to the president, and I hope, simply, that common sense prevails.

It is not my intention to mitigate the significance of the recent atrocities in any way, nor do I intend to minimize the severity of the events that took place, but I wish to articulate the truth: that Newtown, Conn., is just one of many communities that have experienced gun violence and its carnage.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; barf; guncontrol; secondamendment
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Mental health checks should be performed on asshats that are in office or are seeking office paid for by the citizens tax dollars. Lets make sure he keeps his seat. Didiot!
1 posted on 03/03/2014 7:12:49 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

I just want the lot of them on the Hill and in positions in the other two branches drug tested—all the way to the top. Fail, and find out what unemployment is all about.


2 posted on 03/03/2014 7:15:13 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: rktman

Please, not this guy again.


3 posted on 03/03/2014 7:15:17 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: rktman

We already have 30,000 gun laws. Is the author saying they aren’t sensible?


4 posted on 03/03/2014 7:15:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: rktman

The 2nd Amendment is a sensible gun law.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 7:16:09 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: rktman

Before any “sensible” gun laws are passed, please repeal all of the “non-sensible” gun laws.


6 posted on 03/03/2014 7:16:25 AM PST by W.Lee (After the first one, the rest are free.)
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To: rktman
We do welcome sensible gun laws:


7 posted on 03/03/2014 7:16:50 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: rktman
Responsible gun owners should welcome sensible infringements on their 2nd amendment right, just as responsible Americans should welcome sensible infringements on their other constitutional rights..We will let you know we mean by sensible eventually.
8 posted on 03/03/2014 7:17:28 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: rktman
Sensible gun laws should not prevent lawful citizens from owning and carrying guns.
Since all gun laws the left wants affect only honest people and makes no dent whatsoever in illegal/criminal gun access, their gun laws are not sensible by my definition of the word.

9 posted on 03/03/2014 7:17:33 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: rktman

We do welcome “sensible” gun laws.

We already have one.

It ends with the words “shall not be infringed”.

So take your infringements and stuff them where the sun don’t shine! (to the author)


10 posted on 03/03/2014 7:17:55 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: rktman
"Responsible gun owners should welcome sensible gun laws." Hmm, first tell me, good reporter, would YOU support this:

Responsible reporters should support sensible press laws restricting what can be reported.

Responsible reporters should support sensible speech laws that restrict criticize of the government.

11 posted on 03/03/2014 7:18:16 AM PST by apillar
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To: ArtDodger

Correction: We will let you know ‘what’ we mean by sensible eventually.


12 posted on 03/03/2014 7:18:16 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: rktman

Background checks collect information on the innocent.


13 posted on 03/03/2014 7:18:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rktman

Yea pulling out a shotgun and blasting away sounds sensible.


14 posted on 03/03/2014 7:19:28 AM PST by Zathras
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To: rktman

I do welcome sensible gun laws. For example, the use of a firearm in armed robbery, rape, assault, or murder should be severely punished. Other than banning the use of firearms in violent crime, I’d like to repeal all the nonsense gun laws on the books - federal, state, and local - the Second Amendment should take precedence as the supreme law of the land.


15 posted on 03/03/2014 7:19:43 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

You left out NFA ‘34. Full auto if you choose. Pick up a Thompson down at the Western Auto store.


16 posted on 03/03/2014 7:19:56 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: rktman

The problem is that “sensible” keeps changing.


17 posted on 03/03/2014 7:20:20 AM PST by struggle
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To: rktman
Responsible gun owners should welcome sensible gun laws

That would be a point if sensible gun laws were the objective but sensible gun laws are not the objective.

18 posted on 03/03/2014 7:20:52 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: rktman

How is it that the second I read the title I knew it was going to be some idiot lefty advocating registration or restriction or confiscation?


19 posted on 03/03/2014 7:21:40 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: rktman
Naturally, Waters is a Democrat. He'd have to be to think that CT. registration or outright forfeiture of a semi-automatic rifle and large cap magazines is a "sensible" gun law.

The fact of the matter is, responsible gun owners need only ONE sensible gun law. The 2nd amendment to the Constitution of The United States.

If Waters and the rest of his nut job gun grabbing Democrats want to keep guns out of the hands of the sickos, then they are welcome to do their best...but keep the law abiding, responsible gun owners out of it. We didn't create this problem.

20 posted on 03/03/2014 7:23:27 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: rktman
Mental health checks should be performed on asshats that are in office

Every "journalist" too.

And every politician's and journalist's phone, p.c., Ipad, walkie-talkie, home intercom system and pet locator ought to be registered and monitered as well.

21 posted on 03/03/2014 7:24:08 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: rktman

Since prisons are teeming with a population that alarmingly supports liberalism to an almost certainty, the most “sensible” gun law would be to confiscate weapons from all who support or register as democrats.


22 posted on 03/03/2014 7:24:24 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: rktman

Newtown was a case of an IRRESPONSIBLE gun owner allowing their gun to fall into the hands of a person with a known mental illness.

So what’s his point?


23 posted on 03/03/2014 7:25:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rktman

God Bless the Broken Road ... We’ve all been there ... Point the Way Northern Stars.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 7:25:41 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: rktman

The key parts of his incoherent article:

This includes improved, thorough background checks; detailed, regular mental health evaluations for gun owners and potential gun buyers and similar evaluations for family members who share residency; improved methods of documenting private gun transfers; and, perhaps the most controversial, restrictions on high-capacity ammunition magazines.

As I prepare to introduce a military-style assault weapons bill in the coming legislative session, I understand that these types of restrictions may not be popular among some gun owners.

But military-style weapons with high-capacity magazines give criminals and other irresponsible gun users the ability to maximize damage, which ultimately results in greater loss of life. Giving civilians access to military-style weaponry is nonsensical given the high propensity of mass murderers to use these weapons to carry out their massacres.

A sensible approach to gun laws dictates that firearms with reasonable recreational, self-defense and sporting uses be protected, but military-style guns are proven to be nothing more than killing machines in the hands of irresponsible civilians.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 7:26:59 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: rktman

Let me rephrase what he said.

“While most of the uproar over inflammatory opinions has centered on restriction versus First Amendment rights, I believe that real change will happen only when we reframe the argument in the context of public safety.

“With millions of opinions being expressed each year in the commonwealth, it is in the best interest of all of our residents — including responsible opinion makers — to have free speech laws that are sensible.

“This includes improved, thorough background checks; detailed, regular mental health evaluations for public speakers and potential opinion writers and similar evaluations for family members who share residency; improved methods of documenting who publishes and speaks what and where; and, perhaps the most controversial, restrictions on opinions that are offensive to others.

“A sensible approach to speech laws dictates that conversations with reasonable recreational, political and religious uses be protected, but outrageous opinions are proven to be nothing more than provocative rabble-rousing on the part of irresponsible civilians.”


26 posted on 03/03/2014 7:27:14 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: rktman

A sensible approach to gun laws dictates that firearms with reasonable recreational, self-defense and sporting uses be protected, but military-style guns are proven to be nothing more than killing machines in the hands of irresponsible civilians.


I think he’s ignoring the purpose of deterring and overcoming a tyrannical government.


27 posted on 03/03/2014 7:28:04 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

Amen!


28 posted on 03/03/2014 7:30:54 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: rktman

He keeps using that word “sensible”.

We donna thin’ it means what he thins it means.


29 posted on 03/03/2014 7:31:19 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
sensible?

Sensible!

What would RATs know about sensible?

30 posted on 03/03/2014 7:33:10 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: rktman

We need gun control reform, and that means, no politician, no homowood star, and no body-guards of said should be permitted to possess or carry guns. This is the needed reform in proper perspective.


31 posted on 03/03/2014 7:34:37 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: rktman
Perhaps to be followed by:

"Responsible opinionated citizens should welcome sensible free speech restrictions"

"Responsible people of faith should welcome sensible limitations on their beliefs"

"Responsible folks with nothing to hide should welcome a certain sensible amount of warrantless oversight"

32 posted on 03/03/2014 7:35:05 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Proud2BeRight

It is a citizen’s God given right to have guns, 2nd amendment is really not needed.


33 posted on 03/03/2014 7:35:37 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: rktman
But military-style weapons with high-capacity magazines give criminals and other irresponsible gun users the ability to maximize damage, which ultimately results in greater loss of life. Giving civilians access to military-style weaponry is nonsensical given the high propensity of mass murderers to use these weapons to carry out their massacres.

Speaking of nonsensical, how am I supposed to defend myself and my family against these mass murderers if you insist on allowing them to be more well-armed than I?

34 posted on 03/03/2014 7:38:21 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: rktman

We have a sensible gun law. Its called the Second Amendment.
You do not think our Constitution is sensible sir?


35 posted on 03/03/2014 7:38:43 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: rktman

Why do we want to make sure he keeps his seat?


36 posted on 03/03/2014 7:38:55 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Fightin Whitey
every politician's and journalist's phone, p.c., Ipad, walkie-talkie, home intercom system and pet locator ought to be registered and monitered as well.

You know, in this "digital age" it shouldn't be all that hard to compile a "citizen's registry" of phone numbers and addresses of repeaters and so-called "journalists".

If they truly want to "serve the public"....well, let them be public figures.

37 posted on 03/03/2014 7:39:34 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: rktman

that Newtown, Conn., is just one of many communities that have experienced gun violence and its carnage.

Newtown did not experience “gun violence” No gun got up that day an decided it was going to go an kill children and no gun did so. A evil sick human being got up that morning and decide he was going to go and kill children and he did. If as a public official you do not even understand the problem how can you help solve it?


38 posted on 03/03/2014 7:42:15 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Atlas Sneezed
Giving civilians access to military-style weaponry is nonsensical given the high propensity of mass murderers to use these weapons to carry out their massacres.

Is he talking about citizens of Mexico, Holder, and "Fast and Furious"?

39 posted on 03/03/2014 7:42:19 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: rktman

You mean in addition to the 20,000 “sensible” gun laws already on the books?


40 posted on 03/03/2014 7:43:09 AM PST by IronJack
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To: rktman
Responsible gun owners should welcome sensible do not need gun laws.

That is why we are called responsible.

41 posted on 03/03/2014 7:43:35 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: WayneS

Forgot the /s indicator. Regardless, he probably will keep his seat.


42 posted on 03/03/2014 7:44:38 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Full repeal of NFA and 922(o) while you’re at it.


43 posted on 03/03/2014 7:46:59 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Atlas Sneezed
"...but military-style guns are proven to be nothing more than killing machines in the hands of irresponsible civilians progressives.

There, fixed it :-)

44 posted on 03/03/2014 7:47:02 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Da Coyote

45 posted on 03/03/2014 7:49:04 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Exactly!That’s Precisely why the”Powers That Be”are AGAINST IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 03/03/2014 7:49:22 AM PST by bandleader
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To: rktman
The left is still dancing on the little coffins from Sandy Hook?
47 posted on 03/03/2014 7:54:40 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: rktman

Okay. I did not think you really meant it, but wasn’t sure whether it was a typo or sarcasm.

And unfortunately, you are correct - he probably WILL keep his seat.


48 posted on 03/03/2014 7:54:58 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: BenLurkin

Makes Fred Astaire look like a rookie.


49 posted on 03/03/2014 7:58:05 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: Obadiah

Did Joe Biden write that whole thing in Crayon?


50 posted on 03/03/2014 7:59:28 AM PST by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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