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Student Loans Entice Borrowers More for Cash Than a Degree
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 2, 2014 | JOSH MITCHELL

Posted on 03/03/2014 10:14:42 AM PST by reaganaut1

Some Americans caught in the weak job market are lining up for federal student aid, not for education that boosts their employment prospects but for the chance to take out low-cost loans, sometimes with little intention of getting a degree.

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A number of factors are behind the growth in student debt. The soft jobs recovery and the emphasis on education have driven people to attain more schooling. But borrowing thousands in low-rate student loans—which cover tuition, textbooks and a vague category known as living expenses, a figure determined by each individual school—also can be easier than getting a bank loan. The government performs no credit checks for most student loans.

College officials and federal watchdogs can't say exactly how much of the U.S.'s swelling $1.1 trillion in student-loan debt has gone to living expenses. But data and government reports indicate the phenomenon is real. The Education Department's inspector general warned last month that the rise of online education has led more students to borrow excessively for personal expenses. Its report said that among online programs at eight universities and colleges, non-education expenses such as rent, transportation and "miscellaneous" items made up more than half the costs covered by student aid.

The report also found the schools disbursed an average of $5,285 in loans each to more than 42,000 students who didn't log any credits at the time. The report pointed to possible factors such as fraud in addition to cases of people enrolling without serious intentions of getting a degree.

Capella Education Co., which runs online schools, examined student costs and debt at institutions—public and private—in Minnesota and concluded that between a quarter and three-quarters of loans taken out by students were for non-education expenses.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: college; debt; loans; studentloans

1 posted on 03/03/2014 10:14:42 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

I seriously hope these students of worthless degrees, pursuing leisure and subjects of flight of fantasy eventually have to put up their time instead of credit and wealth as payment for services rendered.

I hope they are forced into involuntary servitude (at even the government’s inflated minimum wage) doling out EBT cards, processing SNAP (food stamp) applications, Section 8 housing voucher applications (to the point of INSPECTING the premises of those inhabitants who have been forced out), and so on.

It would do them good, seeing their erstwhile compatriot comrades ‘giving back’ to their GOVERNMENT. I hope they get enveloped by the entitlement sewage they and this government sustain.


2 posted on 03/03/2014 10:21:17 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: reaganaut1
Under Obama's new rules for student loans, as long as you divert the loan money AWAY from education and spend it on something else, you don't have to pay the money back.

The 'rich' are going to start being required to pay their 'fair share' of other people's student loan payments - which Obama figures is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100% of the total amount.

3 posted on 03/03/2014 10:27:04 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: reaganaut1

Financial aid is the new welfare.

Over the past several years, I’ve seen this borne out by the change in fin-aid office clientele, and in their subsequent classroom performance.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 10:34:42 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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Less Than 1.5K To Go

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5 posted on 03/03/2014 10:41:45 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: reaganaut1

I know people who took trips to Europe on their student loan money. They will be in debt forever.


6 posted on 03/03/2014 10:50:13 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: reaganaut1

Back in the 90s, while I was in high school, they practically shoved “Student Aid” at us to fill out. I had no idea what I was doing and filled it out.

That first year of college I was horrified at the amount I had received (an actual physical check), and in today’s money it really wasn’t that much.

I swore that I would never again have a loan. It took forever to finish school, but I dont regret it one bit.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 11:27:00 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: reaganaut1

Hey kids, you gotta keep those professors RICH FOR LIFE.


8 posted on 03/03/2014 11:30:57 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Category / Rank
All Public Private, Independent Private, Religious
Doctoral        
--Full professor $134,747 $123,393 $167,118 $139,194
--Associate $88,306 $84,275 $104,016 $94,199
--Assistant $76,822 $73,212 $90,622 $79,489
--Instructor $51,116 $48,359 $63,269 $63,830
--Lecturer $57,225 $54,382 $66,519 $58,942
Master's        
--Full professor $92,552 $88,988 $104,186 $94,031
--Associate $73,103 $71,343 $78,125 $73,114
--Assistant $62,184 $61,041 $66,050 $61,487
--Instructor $47,098 $45,258 $52,899 $51,987
--Lecturer $49,626 $48,086 $58,312 $52,966
Baccalaureate        
--Full professor $91,935 $86,427 $104,335 $78,629
--Associate $70,334 $70,066 $76,993 $63,244
--Assistant $58,406 $58,591 $62,763 $53,901
--Instructor $47,915 $47,798 $49,990 $45,802
--Lecturer $52,116 $49,064 $60,939 $43,831
Associate (with ranks)        
--Full professor $74,526 $74,845 n/a n/a
--Associate $60,821 $60,876 n/a n/a
--Assistant $52,643 $52,754 n/a n/a
--Instructor $45,244 $45,314 n/a n/a
--Lecturer $45,824 $45,819 n/a n/a

9 posted on 03/03/2014 11:32:59 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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Less than $1k to go!!

10 posted on 03/03/2014 11:45:58 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: reaganaut1
The jobs just aren't there the way they were when Reagan was running things.

For many on student loans it's borrow and go to school, or sit and collect public assistance.

Student loans are just another way of masking a poor job market for the young.

11 posted on 03/03/2014 11:52:10 AM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: reaganaut1

This is morphing into another Federal welfare program that will be trillions in red ink and unsustainable.


12 posted on 03/03/2014 11:52:41 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: reaganaut1

Why surely, taken away the “cash”, and the enrollments will dip by 50 percent or more.


13 posted on 03/03/2014 12:39:48 PM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No, they probably know that all student loans are forgiven by the uninformed taxpayers ten years after they are contracted.


14 posted on 03/03/2014 12:41:38 PM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And those of us not in debt will pay it for them.


15 posted on 03/03/2014 1:46:24 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Theodore R.
all student loans are forgiven by the uninformed taxpayers ten years after they are contracted.

Can you post a link on that? All I read on FR is that these persist even thru bankruptcy.

16 posted on 03/03/2014 1:49:58 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: WayneS
Under Obama's new rules for student loans, as long as you divert the loan money AWAY from education and spend it on something else, you don't have to pay the money back.

Could you post a link to this? Thanks

17 posted on 03/03/2014 1:50:34 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Gaffer

Even without your hopes and wishes (which I share, BTW), they’re in a world of hurt doing this. Student loans cannot be discharged in Bankruptcy, they’re like child support. They may bloody well have to sweat it out.


18 posted on 03/03/2014 2:05:01 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: WayneS

I don’t believe that.


19 posted on 03/03/2014 2:06:06 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Theodore R.
Not really....

http://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/forgiveness-cancellation#perkins-loan

20 posted on 03/03/2014 2:39:38 PM PST by relentlessly
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To: VanDeKoik

Same here. But there was one hot chick at the registrar’s office who at least explained to me how much i will owe. After the first year, I dabbled in cash jobs and it was a better life/learning experience being independent of the system. I still remembered my fratmates STILL heavily in debt 5 years after graduation and I’m an 08’ grad.


21 posted on 03/03/2014 3:47:34 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: nascarnation; Theodore R.

http://www.studentloanborrowerassistance.org/bankruptcy/

The above link says in certain circumstances they are dischargeable in bankruptcy as does the link below, but it sounds like it doesn’t happen often.

http://bankruptcy.lawyers.com/consumer-bankruptcy/personal-bankruptcy-and-student-loans.html

This link has FAQs about discharging them and has a chart:
http://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/forgiveness-cancellation#when-can-my-federal


22 posted on 03/03/2014 7:22:54 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Theodore R.

I need a link for that please. I checked into this a lot for someone recently and I found nothing that said student loans are forgiven ten years after they are contracted.

I think you are mistaken.


23 posted on 03/03/2014 7:24:00 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: LearsFool
Financial aid is the new welfare.

These kids will just run up their debt and Obama will make sure they never have to repay.

The responsible students who scrimp and work to put themselves through school will be screwed.

24 posted on 03/03/2014 7:31:19 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: leapfrog0202

I have read that, didn’t know it at the time, and unfortunately don’t have a link. But I DID read it.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 7:53:17 PM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: leapfrog0202

http://www.finaid.org/loans/publicservice.phtml

This may not apply to all, but here is a possible link for you.


26 posted on 03/03/2014 8:00:18 PM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: Theodore R.

Thanks very much!


27 posted on 03/03/2014 8:25:52 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: nascarnation

No, I can’t. It was a joke.


28 posted on 03/04/2014 6:44:38 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Cyber Liberty

Good. I’m glad. Because it was a joke.

I’m sorry about that. I thought it would be obvious, but given some of the stuff that idiot has ACTUALLY said, I should have known better.


29 posted on 03/04/2014 6:46:18 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: WayneS

I’m bummed out.

After reading your post I was all set to change my status from “retiree” to “student” and go buy a new Corvette....


30 posted on 03/04/2014 6:48:48 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation
Cheer up! There are thousands of ways to bilk money from Uncle Sucker.

Maybe you could become an Obamacare 'Guide' (or whatever it is they call them). I understand the opportunities for kickbacks, bribes and outright theft of funds are simply mind-boggling...

31 posted on 03/04/2014 7:00:15 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: WayneS

I actually looked into that.
There are two categories here in Indiana.

A state navigator has to be basically at the level of an insurance agent, takesspecified courses, online exam, background checks, license fees, etc.

A federal navigator has to be a member of MoveOn, SEIU, Organizing for America, or Center for American Progress.

The first one was too much work and I was disqualified on the second as a registered R voter, LOL.


32 posted on 03/04/2014 7:04:21 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: WayneS

Obastard is so revolting it’s hard to separate satire from real life....

:^D


33 posted on 03/04/2014 7:31:48 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: nascarnation

I think my head would spontaneously explode if I tried to join MoveOn, even as an infiltrator...


34 posted on 03/04/2014 12:39:04 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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