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Don't listen to Obama's Ukraine critics: he's not 'losing' and it's not his fight
UK GUARDIAN ^ | 3-32014 | Micheal Cohen

Posted on 03/03/2014 11:00:48 AM PST by tcrlaf

In the days since Vladimir Putin sent Russian troops into the Crimea, it has been amateur hour back in Washington.

I don’t mean Barack Obama. He’s doing pretty much everything he can, with what are a very limited set of policy options at his disposal. No, I’m talking about the people who won’t stop weighing in on Obama’s lack of “action” in the Ukraine. Indeed, the sea of foreign policy punditry – already shark-infested – has reached new lows in fear-mongering, exaggerated doom-saying and a stunning inability to place global events in any rational historical context.

This would be a useful moment for Americans to have informed reporters, scholars and leaders explaining a crisis rapidly unfolding half a world away. Instead, we’ve already got all the usual suspect arguments:

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; russia; ukraine
Projectile Vomiting/Obama Sycophant Alert!!

Obama is looking like an idiot right now, so the sycophants are feeling butt-hurt, and are already starting the "WHAT DOES IT MATTER!!!" bs to bail Obama out.

(Oh... If you think this really does matter, you must be a racist that hates the idea of a black president!)

1 posted on 03/03/2014 11:00:48 AM PST by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

obozo’s sure as hell losing if he doesn’t want Russia in Ukraine.


2 posted on 03/03/2014 11:03:29 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: tcrlaf
Michael Cohen? Isn't he the Obamacare pajamas boy?


3 posted on 03/03/2014 11:05:21 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: tcrlaf

Bush II stopped Putin in his tracks from invading Georgia and without firing a shot.

Obama as a leader of the free world is a joke.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 11:05:27 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: tcrlaf

Obama’s weakness emboldened Putin. Lie your way out of that, Guardian.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 11:05:56 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: TalBlack

Well, Obama really wanted Russia to take over Crimea and possibly all of Ukraine all along. He cleverly pretended to want the opposite, and Putin fell right into his trap. Genius I tell you... total genius.


6 posted on 03/03/2014 11:06:25 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: tcrlaf

Delusional, amazingly delusional.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 11:07:08 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: tcrlaf

The British commies are circling Obama’s wagons quicker than his own sycophants here!


8 posted on 03/03/2014 11:09:08 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: ozzymandus

They are working on it as we type.


9 posted on 03/03/2014 11:09:13 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Sooth2222

He’s Obama’s something-or-other boy - of that I have no doubt.


10 posted on 03/03/2014 11:11:00 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: tcrlaf

I really can’t say he’s totally wrong, as far as the Crimea is concerned.

In and of itself, the Crimea isn’t really worth taking action....It’s more about what Putin would do next.

Kind of like the Nazis marching into the Saar and Rhineland.......At the time, most felt the Germans were just taking back what was rightfully theirs’, and it wasn’t a big deal.

Of course that led Hitler to ‘up the ante’, then you got Austria, the Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, then Poland........


11 posted on 03/03/2014 11:14:36 AM PST by dfwgator
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12 posted on 03/03/2014 11:14:48 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: tcrlaf
"He’s doing pretty much everything he can, with what are a very limited set of policy options at his disposal."

They why is he trying to talk tough and make threats when both he and Putin know there's nothing he will do about it?

13 posted on 03/03/2014 11:15:20 AM PST by circlecity
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To: tcrlaf
I was wondering where this girl went.

Leave Barack Alone!


14 posted on 03/03/2014 11:18:17 AM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: tcrlaf

“Don’t be fooled by that incompetence you see. It’s on purpose.”


15 posted on 03/03/2014 11:18:41 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: tcrlaf

this guy has Kool-aide on his knee pads.


16 posted on 03/03/2014 11:19:56 AM PST by wny
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To: tcrlaf

So last week while Putin was rolling the tanks, Obama was pitching minimum wage, Kerry was saying climate change is our greatest security threat, and Hagel was dismantling the Army.

The 3 Stooges are running American foreign policy.


17 posted on 03/03/2014 11:20:14 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: tcrlaf

I will stipulate that Obama can do nothing to stop Putin at this point.

But the fact that he can do nothing to stop Putin is entirely his own fault.

Words MATTER. Actions MATTER. From the time a president takes office, everything he does and says contributes to his reputation on the world stage - and reputation MATTERS.

On the world stage, Mr. Barack Hussein Obama has built himself a reputation as a weak, ignorant, foolish, ineffectual, know-it-all little brat.

Mr. Obama (and unfortunately the rest of the United States) is currently reaping in accord with the reputation he has sown; and his pea-brained, sycophantic, hopey-o-change-a-lot apologists in the media are coming unglued as it becomes more and more apparent exactly how much damage he has done to our country, and to the world.


18 posted on 03/03/2014 11:22:24 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: tcrlaf

“he’s not ‘losing’ – and it’s not his fight”

?????

This is what happens when newspeak divides by Zero.


19 posted on 03/03/2014 11:22:59 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: dfwgator

The Sudetenland was never part of Germany. It was part of Austria-Hungary and Czechoslovakia.

The Crimea has been Russian (and still is, demographically) since around 1783.


20 posted on 03/03/2014 11:24:16 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

True. Some have compared this to Hitler taking the Sudetenland, which I believe is the incorrect analogy, the Rhineland is a more fitting one.


21 posted on 03/03/2014 11:26:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: tcrlaf

There isn’t much to be accomplished by Ukraine trying to fight the Russian Military toe to toe. But if I had been the guy in charge, as soon as I knew what Putin was up to, I would have unleashed all the military assets at my command to destroy the oil and gas assets in Crimea and made ports unusable. I wonder what the pajama boy at the UK Guardian would have said to THAT!


22 posted on 03/03/2014 11:27:47 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: tcrlaf

Twenty years on, and the left still can’t pull its lips off the rotting buttocks of the Soviet Union.


23 posted on 03/03/2014 11:29:31 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: tcrlaf
At this point, what difference does it make?? /s

Missing from this “analysis” about how Obama should respond is why Obama should respond. After all, the US has few strategic interests in the former Soviet Union and little ability to affect Russian decision-making.

The "Chamberlain" gambit.

24 posted on 03/03/2014 11:34:56 AM PST by oldbrowser (Civil service unions are the real government)
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To: circlecity; All

OBAMA JUST NOW:

“Putin is on the wrong side of history.”

WOW...
He really does think everyone not him is fugging stupid.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 11:36:02 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

And Texas has been a part of Mexico and ethnically still is, right?


26 posted on 03/03/2014 11:37:49 AM PST by ricmc2175
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To: tcrlaf

I’ve decided to recycle a bit of liberal cant from Gulf War I: 0bama’s weakness “gave the green light to invasion.” But yeah, it’s pretty clear that the talking points are out and the MSM are circling the wagons. It’s actually pretty funny.


27 posted on 03/03/2014 11:38:23 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: tcrlaf

Actually, the problem isn’t that Obama isn’t doing anything.

It’s that he’s threatened serious consequences and most likely has no intention of following through, and most people know it. The bad guys certainly know it.

If you’re not prepared to be tough, just don’t comment.

I doubt most Americans would want to much as one US soldier to sprain a pinky over this. Whether that’s wise or not, I can’t say. But I don’t think there’s a groundswell for decisive action.

So simply don’t talk like you’re ready to get tough.


28 posted on 03/03/2014 11:39:52 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: tcrlaf

I suspect the kenyan or his people fomented the rebellion as part of their worldwide national destabilization efforts. I don’t think he can be faulted for “lack of action.” It were better did he not take any action at all.


29 posted on 03/03/2014 11:40:11 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Sooth2222

There isn’t an anti-Semitic bone in my body. In fact, my Savior, The Lord Jesus Christ, the Second Person of The Holy Trinity is a Jew. But the moment I began to read that bootlicking tripe I said to myself, “This had to have been written by a backslid, reprobate Jew. That sniveling little twerp isn’t qualified to walk on the same ground as the likes of Benyamin Netanyahu.....a REAL Jew!


30 posted on 03/03/2014 11:51:02 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: tcrlaf

Putin: KGB
Obama: Acorn

results are on display


31 posted on 03/03/2014 11:51:51 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: tcrlaf

32 posted on 03/03/2014 11:55:58 AM PST by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Sooth2222

No, he’s his mother................


33 posted on 03/03/2014 11:57:19 AM PST by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: tcrlaf
As far as the Crimean bases are concerned, I'd say we have no more business telling the Russians to give them up than the Russians would have telling us to give up Guantanamo.

Ukraine, however, is a different matter. The Ukrainians still remember the Holodomor, and want no part of Russia.

34 posted on 03/03/2014 11:59:05 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: dfwgator

The libs will spin this as Obama’s ‘Cuban Missile Crisis’ moment................


35 posted on 03/03/2014 11:59:48 AM PST by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: Cementjungle

Revelation 13 describes a beast which has multiple heads, which will arise in the last days, and one of the heads has a deadly wound that is healed, and the beast goes on to mislead the masses and wreak havoc.

When the USSR was broken up back in the 90s, I wondered if that might be the “deadly wound” to Russia, one of the heads of a beastly group out to destroy Israel. And now Putin’s apparent progress toward the reconstitution of much of the former USSR, is, to my mind, the beginning of the healing of that deadly wound. (Just putting some thoughts out in the open).


36 posted on 03/03/2014 12:08:02 PM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: tcrlaf
"Obama’s doing pretty much everything he can," with his remaining options.

After destroying America;s economy, our military and our standing in the world the only options he has left is pink lines and fairy dust. And he's using both liberally.

FUBO and the pink unicorn you rode in on.

37 posted on 03/03/2014 1:26:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: McGruff
I was wondering where this girl went.

That's a guy.

38 posted on 03/04/2014 10:40:21 AM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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