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Russia Slams Kerry’s ‘Threats’ over Ukraine
RIA Novosti ^

Posted on 03/03/2014 11:17:50 AM PST by kronos77

MOSCOW, March 3 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian Foreign Ministry on Monday condemned as “unacceptable threats” comments made by the US Secretary of State John Kerry over possible Russian military action in Ukraine. The Russian parliament granted a request from President Vladimir Putin to authorize deployment of military forces in Ukraine on Saturday. In a series of public remarks over the weekend, Kerry called the move a "brazen act of aggression" and threatened Moscow with devastating economic and political consequences. “We consider there are unacceptable threats against Russia in the series of public statements by Secretary of State John Kerry in connection with the recent events in Ukraine and Crimea,” the ministry said in a statement. "Without bothering to grasp the complicated trends underway in Ukrainian society and to gain an unbiased insight into the situation that continues to deteriorate after the violent seizure of power by radical extremists in Ukraine, the Secretary of State continues to employ Cold War clichés by suggesting punishment of Russia instead of those responsible for the state coup.” The statement continued: “Washington also ignored that Kiev’s newly established regime trampled on the February 21 [reconciliation] agreement, signed by foreign ministers of Germany, France and Poland, and formed the “government of winners” that de-facto declared a war on the Russian language and everything Russian.” Russia called on the US and its allies to stop encouraging nationalist and anti-Russian initiatives by Ukraine’s new leadership and focus on a dialog and mutually acceptable decisions for the pro-European west and pro-Russian east. “It’s evident that existing threats to Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity originate solely from an internal political conflict. Its settlement requires an absolutely different approach from our partners,” the ministry said.

(Excerpt) Read more at en.ria.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: kerry; obama; putin; russia; traitor

1 posted on 03/03/2014 11:17:50 AM PST by kronos77
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To: kronos77

I love the little dance going on here. Kerry is pretending to be serious while Russia is pretending to take him seriously.


2 posted on 03/03/2014 11:19:39 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity


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3 posted on 03/03/2014 11:21:57 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: kronos77
I don't support Russia. I don't like Putin. Stalin murdered millions of Ukrainians, and they are right to hate and fear Russia. That said, the kindergarten-level of reporting on Crimea is not helpful.

The Crimea is Russia's REAL "red line." Note I said Crimea, not Ukraine.

Crimea was part of Russia for over 200 years, since the 1780s, until Nikita Khrushchev literally gifted it to Ukraine in 1954 in order to purchase the support of their party bosses during his accession after the death of Stalin.

Before Russia, it belonged to the Ottoman Empire, now defunct. Before that, it belonged to the city-state of Venice, going back to before Columbus discovered America. But the Crimea was NEVER part of Ukraine, until Khrushchev’s unilateral “gift."

(Imagine if President Eisenhower, as a dictator on his own, gave Long Island and NYC to Connecticut as part of an internal United States political deal to secure CT’s critically needed support during a contested election or coup. That is how Crimea became part of the Ukraine.)

In 1954, the political gift of the Crimea was an internal USSR matter, not an international matter. Ukraine was then the Ukraine SSR, within the USSR. In 1991, the USSR broke apart, and Khrushchev’s personal gift suddenly mattered. But despite the gift and the fluke that led Crimea to become part of the modern sovereign nation of Ukraine, Crimea has always been 90%+ ethnic Russian, and as always, it contains Russia’s most critical naval bases, air force bases and sea ports.

In fact, Crimea is far more Russian than Hawaii is American. It’s foolish and naïve to believe that the Russians will risk losing the Crimea during a period of chaos in greater Ukraine.

If you want to see Russia's REAL "red line," threaten their control of the Crimea, and its naval bases and seaports. I'm not supporting Russia's position, I just want folks to know that this is a much more complicated picture than "Evil Russia invades poor innocent Ukraine," which is the kindergarten/MSM version of Crimean history.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 11:24:52 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: kronos77

I’m sure the Russians have some interesting information on Kerry dating back to Viet Nam and the Paris Peace Accords. Just remember who the power was behind the Viet Cong.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 11:27:16 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: circlecity

I am utterly confused as to who side to favor. As a patriotic US citizen I am really supposed to sound my support for Kerry? I was recently in Russia and I was at a complete loss as to how to explain what my country was doing.

Watching Putin is like watching your fiercest sports rival play an outstanding game. You hate the outcome but you cannot help admire how they played the game.


6 posted on 03/03/2014 11:29:16 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Travis McGee

Sorry Travis, too much history and common sense, you must be a Communist Russia sycophant, and Putin lover.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 11:29:38 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Wouldn’t you love it if a Russian diplomat slipped Kerry his KGB file, and hinted that it might go to FOX news if he didn’t get in line.


8 posted on 03/03/2014 11:31:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: kronos77

No fan of Putin, but I wish he would issue a statement like: “Look America, if you wanted an intelligent, competent, mature adult President you should have elected Sarah Palin.”


9 posted on 03/03/2014 11:31:40 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Cowboy Bob

The Russians have piles of information on Kerry, Obama and anyone in DC with any political power. Lots more than the American people do.


10 posted on 03/03/2014 11:31:48 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: Navy Patriot

Yeah, I’m a secret FSB/KGB agent.


11 posted on 03/03/2014 11:32:59 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Nailed it. Consider making that a standalone vanity post.


12 posted on 03/03/2014 11:37:00 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL

I (almost) believe you. ;-)
Everytime someone speaks history common sense, the fools accuse you to be a spy or worse.
It happens to me all the time :)


13 posted on 03/03/2014 11:37:49 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
"I am utterly confused as to who side to favor."

Yep, Putin is a tyrant and everything but he's manly, decisive and competent - qualities America hasn't seen in a leader for a while. You can't help but be impressed and envious.

14 posted on 03/03/2014 11:39:52 AM PST by circlecity
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To: kronos77

Putin: So Barak, I raise and call.
Let’s see what ya got!


15 posted on 03/03/2014 11:40:28 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

My general rule these past few years is that if Obunghole is for something, I need to oppose it.


16 posted on 03/03/2014 11:41:20 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Travis McGee

“I’m not supporting Russia’s position, I just want folks to know that this is a much more complicated picture than “Evil Russia invades poor innocent Ukraine”

Yes, considering that the vast majority of those in Crimea and eastern Ukraine don’t want to be a part of Ukraine anyway and would much rather be a part of Russia. The scores of Russian flags and the singing of the Russian national anthem should be a clue to the West.


17 posted on 03/03/2014 11:45:04 AM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: kronos77

I just disapprove of Kerry, FULL STOP


18 posted on 03/03/2014 11:49:15 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: jospehm20

I hear you. What exactly would the US bring to Ukraine that would be worth fighting for? Homosexual agenda, global warming nonsense, abortion, confiscatory taxes, infinite federal regulations and rules...

The Russians I know long for a US style society and government that unfortunately no longer exist.


19 posted on 03/03/2014 11:53:07 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: kronos77

Did you know that I served in Vietnam .... ?

20 posted on 03/03/2014 12:07:54 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: kronos77
“government of winners” that de-facto declared a war on the Russian language and everything Russian.”

Hey, this is what the American government is doing to America!

21 posted on 03/03/2014 12:08:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tet68

>> I raise and call.

On the planet where I learned to play poker, you can’t raise and call at the same time.

It must be different here on your planet. :-)


22 posted on 03/03/2014 12:10:53 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: kronos77
All options are on the table?

This man should no where near a nuclear football.


23 posted on 03/03/2014 12:14:40 PM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
A friend of mine from church, family is from the Ukraine. Her father was a pastor there. She said the people don't want to be under the tyrannical rule of Russia again. They oppressed the people and took away there freedoms. They stole there wealth and were corrupt. These people want to be free. They voted in a baptist pastor as president. When your oppressed, I think you turn to God. Some don't trust anyone and are afraid Russia could force anyone to turn. (Like when republicans turn into rinos, only not as serious as what Ukraine is experiencing) here is part of an article from Christianity today

The choice of a Baptist pastor as acting president in Ukraine, which has had an Orthodox majority population for centuries, does not come as a huge surprise to Sergey Rakhuba, head of U.S.-based Russian Ministries. For years, he has been in periodic contact with Turchynov.
“He is well-known in political circles as a principled, honest leader, although he was somehow always in the shadow of Yulia Tymoshenko, the jailed prime minister who was released yesterday.
“He is well-known as a preacher who, despite his political opposition work, preaches on a regular basis at one of the Baptist churches in Kiev, even though security must travel with him. Overall, the evangelical church is excited about Turchynov’s sudden unanimous appointment as acting president. Within the evangelical community, the post-Soviet mindset exists that a true Christian cannot necessarily be a politician. Personally I think it is great that Turchynov is calling for unification and healing of the nation.” http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2014/february/ukraine-names-baptist-pastor-as-acting-president.html

24 posted on 03/03/2014 12:19:54 PM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: wk4bush2004

This is the Germans marching into the Rhineland.

At the time, most people, even those who didn’t care for Hitler felt that the Germans were entitled to it.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 12:23:55 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Servant of the Cross

26 posted on 03/03/2014 12:25:43 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: Travis McGee
Well stated. Like Russia or not they have real strategic and historic motivations here that are worth fighting for from their POV.

From our POV we have a known traitor in the SecState chair bloviating about "serious consequences" that aren't anywhere serious enough to dissuade Russia. We can't even be certain what Kerry's true motivations are. He may drag us into some mess to purposely do further harm to the U.S. There is no reason to think his boss isn't directing him to do just that.

27 posted on 03/03/2014 12:32:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Nervous Tick; tet68

He should have told you not to call his bluff. ;-)


28 posted on 03/03/2014 12:38:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Travis McGee

What about the hundreds of thousands of Crimean Tartars that Stain had transported and put in camps? Almost half of them died. I guess it’s ok for us to tell the Ukraine to give their left leg to the tiger in hopes that the tiger will be satiated. That worked so well in 1938.


29 posted on 03/03/2014 12:47:43 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
I am utterly confused as to who side to favor.

Same problem the world had in 1938 when they threw part of Czechoslovakia to Hitler

30 posted on 03/03/2014 12:52:21 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

Put it in the very long line of regional atrocities going back to Ivan the Terrible. I’m NOT a Russia supporter, I’m a realpolitik proponent trying to raise the discourse from the kindergarten version being spewed in the MSM where Evil Russia is invading Innocent Ukraine.


31 posted on 03/03/2014 12:55:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: kronos77

Kerry is so gay.


32 posted on 03/03/2014 12:56:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Nervous Tick

I think you’re right, it’s been a Looong time
since I was on your planet.


33 posted on 03/03/2014 12:58:49 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

>> it’s been a Looong time since I was on your planet.

You should book a trip! It’s very pretty here, now that Spring has sprung.

By the way — spread the word on your planet: global warming turns out to be a GOOD thing. :-)


34 posted on 03/03/2014 1:03:35 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Wait, it’s coming back to me, it’s “See you and call!”.

Spring has sprung,
fall has fell
now it’s summer
and hot as...
usual.


35 posted on 03/03/2014 1:07:44 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Travis McGee

Absolutely great synopsis. Well done.


36 posted on 03/03/2014 1:21:02 PM PST by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Really? You are comparing Putin to Hitler? Make a O versus Putin on a “who is closer to Hitler” scale and were do you think they would rank?

I am not defending Putin but we have started our march into strongman socialism. If we are not careful a Putin will be the best we can hope for.


37 posted on 03/04/2014 7:31:06 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Really? You are comparing Putin to Hitler?

The situation is identical, the world will give Crimea to Russia which will come back later and grab more of the Ukraine proper. Imagine the refugees the Ukrainian Russians will be able to slaughter.

38 posted on 03/04/2014 2:42:20 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Mike Darancette

Not even close.

The Ukrainian Russians are ethnic Russians but they are not lining up for Russian rule. Putin is trying to grab a rundown broke country that even his best supporters within the country are lukewarm to the idea of being ruled by Russia.

This country adds little if anything to Russia’s wealth and will probably cost it money to manage.

He is taking over this country on his way to what? Europe? Germany? France?


39 posted on 03/04/2014 3:06:33 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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