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Cruz: The United States should stand with Ukraine
yourhoustonnews.com ^ | March 3, 2014

Posted on 03/03/2014 11:56:23 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, released the following statement on events in Ukraine:

“The situation unfolding in Ukraine right now is a harsh lesson that no matter how great the victory, we must never rest on our laurels. After the United States won the Cold War and the Soviet Union ceased to exist in 1991, many on both sides of the aisle believed that the Soviet threat to freedom was a thing of the past and that the new, democratic Russia would be a reasonable partner and even an ally.

“The events of the last seventy-two hours demonstrate this is not the case. Vladimir Putin barely waited for the flame of the Olympic torch in Sochi to be extinguished before he turned his attention to crushing the most recent attempt of the Ukrainian people to move towards freedom and the West. Despite warnings and expressions of concern from the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, the Ambassador to the United Nations and even the President of the United States, Putin apparently feels he can act with impunity in what he considers to be his exclusive sphere of influence.

“He has good reason to do so. Over the five years of his presidency, President Obama has done nothing to help the people of Georgia reclaim the some 20 percent of their sovereign territory that was violated by the 2008 Russian invasion, instead instructing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to attempt to 'reset' the relationship with Russia in the hopes of pursuing more arms control agreements rather than forcefully defending American national security interests and those of our allies.

“This evening, President Obama spoke of his deep concerns about reports of Russian military action in Ukraine and urged Putin not to violate international laws. But as the President and his national security team are apparently the last to learn, Putin has scant regard for international norms when they run counter to his goal of re-establishing Soviet-style regional hegemony over unfortunate states like Georgia and Ukraine who have the temerity to want a more free, prosperous future for their people. And Putin is under no illusions that the President’s vague threats mean any more than his infamous ‘red line’ in the Syrian desert.

“If we were serious about standing up to Putin’s power grab, we would immediately suspend Russian membership in the Group of Eight (G8), which should consist of nations that can contribute to a civilized order. And if the Russians persist in this aggressive action, we should look into additional measures such as suspension from the World Trade Organization and even the United Nations Security Council.

“The United States should stand with Ukraine.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: cruz; russia; tedcruz
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1 posted on 03/03/2014 11:56:23 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Give ‘em H3LL Ted!


2 posted on 03/03/2014 11:58:47 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

3 posted on 03/03/2014 11:58:59 AM PST by Diogenesis
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4 posted on 03/03/2014 11:59:40 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: swamprebel

In before the anti Cruz


5 posted on 03/03/2014 11:59:41 AM PST by stanne
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To: Tailgunner Joe

We, the USA should get the hell out of the UN as well.


6 posted on 03/03/2014 11:59:47 AM PST by edcoil (Realism is only a socially accepted form of pessimism)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Actions speak louder than words.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 12:00:08 PM PST by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Even if Ted Cruz is elected, US foreign policy will not change.

It would continue to be run by financial elites.


8 posted on 03/03/2014 12:04:11 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Agree to disagree, Cruz.


9 posted on 03/03/2014 12:04:11 PM PST by nomad
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To: Tailgunner Joe

His instincts are usually correct


10 posted on 03/03/2014 12:04:17 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Which Ukraine? The people are divided.

I like Cruz but he is wrong on this (as is Obama sending Kerry over there)

We need to butt out. This is Europe’s problem.


11 posted on 03/03/2014 12:09:08 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

With all due respect to Senator Cruz, I think “standing with Ukraine” and being dragged into an all-out war with Russia would be a mistake. What the media is not emphasizing is that many in eastern and southern Ukraine are ethnic Russian, pro-Russia and would much rather be a part of Russia than Ukraine. They want Russia there. This is a very complicated and far more detailed and historical issue than just Russia invading Ukraine.

The West is playing with fire and they will get badly burned if they mess this up.


12 posted on 03/03/2014 12:10:47 PM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: stanne

Good grief. It is not anti anyone to disagree with them. Next will you be calling people who disagree with Cruz on this issue Cruz ‘haters’?

Enough of this. We can say when we think a politician is wrong on a issue without it turning into a lynching.


13 posted on 03/03/2014 12:11:15 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What and cancel dumBO’s unending record of loosing?

Iraq: lost.
Afghanistan: lost
Egypt: lost
Iran: lost
Libya: lost
Syria: lost
Ukraine: lost


14 posted on 03/03/2014 12:12:55 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Lorianne
I don’t support Russia. I don’t like Putin. Stalin murdered millions of Ukrainians, and they are right to hate and fear Russia. That said, the kindergarten-level of reporting on Crimea is not helpful.

The Crimea is Russia’s REAL “red line.” (Note I said Crimea, not Ukraine.)

Crimea was part of Russia for over 200 years, since the 1780s, until Nikita Khrushchev literally gifted it to Ukraine in 1954 in order to purchase the support of their party bosses during his accession after the death of Stalin.

Before Russia, it belonged to the Ottoman Empire, now defunct. Before that, it belonged to the city-state of Venice, going back to before Columbus discovered America. But the Crimea was NEVER part of Ukraine, until Khrushchev’s unilateral “gift.”

(Imagine if President Eisenhower, as a dictator on his own, gave Long Island and NYC to Connecticut as part of an internal United States political deal to secure CT’s critically needed support during a contested election or coup. That is how Crimea became part of the Ukraine.)

In 1954, the political gift of the Crimea was an internal USSR matter, not an international matter. Ukraine was then the Ukraine SSR, within the USSR. In 1991, the USSR broke apart, and Khrushchev’s personal gift suddenly mattered. But despite the gift and the fluke that led Crimea to become part of the modern sovereign nation of Ukraine, Crimea has always been 90%+ ethnic Russian, and as always, it contains Russia’s most critical naval bases, air force bases and sea ports.

In fact, Crimea is far more Russian than Hawaii is American. It’s foolish and naïve to believe that the Russians will risk losing the Crimea during a period of chaos in greater Ukraine.

If you want to see Russia’s REAL “red line,” threaten their control of the Crimea, and its naval bases and seaports. I’m not supporting Russia’s position, I just want folks to know that this is a much more complicated picture than “Evil Russia invades poor innocent Ukraine,” which is the kindergarten/MSM version of Crimean history.

(Just ask the Brits about stumbling into wars in the Crimea.)

15 posted on 03/03/2014 12:13:56 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Get YOUR butt over there, and get in the Russians face, personally Ted, then get back to me.


16 posted on 03/03/2014 12:14:30 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the history lesson. I appreciate it.


17 posted on 03/03/2014 12:19:46 PM PST by bimboeruption ("We Recognize No Sovereign But God, And No King But Jesus!" - John Adams & John Hancock)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Not our fight.

Not one cent or drop of blood for anything outside of our borders.


18 posted on 03/03/2014 12:20:15 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: wk4bush2004

So, the question is....... how greedy is Putin.

If he merely annexes the Russian eastern areas of Ukraine, he will be allowed to keep them. There will be some wailing and knashing of teeth but little else.

If he crosses some agreed to line in west Ukraine and is greedy, there will be repercussions of some sort. Aside from not inviting Putin to his birfday, Obama might create some financial disruptions.


19 posted on 03/03/2014 12:24:22 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I want an independent Ukraine.....They probably just need to give up The Crimea to get it.


20 posted on 03/03/2014 12:25:06 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Lorianne
We need to reinstate the defensive missile shield that Obama unilaterally killed over Polish objections.

The Ukraine is divided in the sense that every country is divided. Germany was only interested in “German-speaking Austria” and the Sudetenland “German-speaking” parts of Checkoslovakia and the “traditionally German” Silesia part of Poland. But it was propaganda that was carefully orchestrated.

Do not confuse Russian-speaking eastern Ukrainians with those who want to be part of Russia. Many Ukrainians speak Russian and want to remain part of the Ukraine as do my in-laws. Yes, that is just anecdotal but you'll never get an honest poll taken under today's conditions.

21 posted on 03/03/2014 12:27:16 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Even if Ted Cruz is elected, US foreign policy will not change. It would continue to be run by financial elites.

As well as congenital idiots.

22 posted on 03/03/2014 12:30:10 PM PST by Parmy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Stand with Ukraine? Does Ukraine have a legitimate government today?

Say, has anybody been to Walter Reed lately?


23 posted on 03/03/2014 12:30:21 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you for setting the record straight.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 12:32:42 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Can you explain why any of this is our problem?
Thanks


25 posted on 03/03/2014 12:33:55 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How would the United States go about suspending Russia from the UN Security Council?


26 posted on 03/03/2014 12:34:08 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: dfwgator

They should; I’d make it an expensive little present for the Kremlin.

All of Crimea’s electricity and water, and a huge of its food, come from Ukraine.

Cut it off. The Crimeans want to annex themselves to Mother Russia? Fine....then let Mother Russia supply them with potable water, with food, and with electricity. Oh, and blow that bridge that connects Crimea to the rest of Ukraine as well.

There you go, Mother Russia....enjoy looking after your new children; now as helpless as infants.


27 posted on 03/03/2014 12:34:39 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the info.
Now can you explain to me why any of this is our problem?
Why isn’t this Europe’s problem?


28 posted on 03/03/2014 12:36:15 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: depressed in 06
"Iraq: lost. Afghanistan: lost Egypt: lost Iran: lost Libya: lost Syria: lost Ukraine: lost "

We lose either way. I vote come home. Defend America not the World.

29 posted on 03/03/2014 12:36:35 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Well stated, my FRiend. Just because a person speaks Russian does not mean that they want a Russian takeover. My contacts inside Russia ( who speak Russian) are repulsed at Putin’s actions. They tell me that there are divisions inside Russia about the invasion/occupation. They have used the word that they are ashamed of Putin’s actions.

We should not forget the open, public demonstrations against the government in 2011. Oh, Zero did nothing to capitalize on the unrest created by Putin then.

Gwjack


30 posted on 03/03/2014 12:38:24 PM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: BusterBear

Stop paying dues and participating in the UN circle jerk works for me.


31 posted on 03/03/2014 12:39:22 PM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

God bless Ted Cruz! This is the type of man America needs as a leader in the White House.


32 posted on 03/03/2014 12:39:23 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: Lorianne
“...why any of this is our problem?...”

Because it is in the interest of America to try to contain global conflicts peacefully. Because nuclear warheads going off produce fallout far and wide. Iran is also very interested in the Crimea, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. If you check out the cities of Agdam and Fuzuli in Azerbaijan-Armenian conflictive areas you will see that a high stakes game has already been played out with 99 percent of all structures destroyed in those two cities. No nukes were used but there is a dangerous mix of bribes, oil wealth, Jihad, and nuclear power at hand.

I'm not advocating troops on the ground but we need to support those who can resist Jihad (more difficult is finding those who can repeatedly resist bribes).

33 posted on 03/03/2014 12:52:31 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

nope, none of our concerns . .


34 posted on 03/03/2014 12:53:58 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No. Its not our concern. The US should condemn the EU’s incompetence.


35 posted on 03/03/2014 12:58:34 PM PST by RginTN
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To: listenhillary

Negative. We can’t give up our veto power.


36 posted on 03/03/2014 12:59:10 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: Lorianne

Everyone should use Google Earth to look at those two cities I mentioned. Agdam and Fuzuli can be found west-southwest of the Caspian Sea’s famous port of Baku. All the villages between and around those cities have also been destroyed. The devastation is evident when one zooms in a bit. Ukraine, Armenia, and Georgia are bulwarks against the spread of Jihad. Jihad is a growing threat to the United States and it is more a threat now than during the 9/11 attacks.


37 posted on 03/03/2014 1:00:00 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

The Russkies have no intention of stopping at just Crimea or even Ukraine. They want it all.


38 posted on 03/03/2014 1:02:17 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: gwjack

“...there are divisions inside Russia about the invasion/occupation...”

Thank you for stating this.


39 posted on 03/03/2014 1:03:17 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: depressed in 06

“Iraq: lost.
Afghanistan: lost
Egypt: lost
Iran: lost
Libya: lost
Syria: lost
Ukraine: lost”

Hawaiian vacation industry: Won.


40 posted on 03/03/2014 1:07:41 PM PST by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Yes, but nuclear fallout doesn’t just affect the USA. In fact, Europe is on the front line of nuclear fallout.

WHY is this not more their problem than ours?
WHY is it always us that has to “contain conflicts”?

The Europeans are always bragging about their social safety nets, pensions, health care, long vacations ... yadda yadda yadda ... well, for the most part they don’t have to pay for their own defense so they can afford those luxuries!

When is it their turn to pony up the greatest part of the cost (in lives and treasure) for their own damn defense?

They never even paid back anything for us saving their butts in WWII. (But they sure don’t hesitate to lecture us about their superior life styles).

Why not let them face the Jihad up front and personal?


41 posted on 03/03/2014 1:15:26 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: ex-snook

That isolationist junk will only result in a world run by the likes of Putin and the Red Chinese. America can not allow that.


42 posted on 03/03/2014 1:16:03 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Cruz spoke out against the pension cuts for our veterans, and against the disproportionate cost that the military has been cut because of it.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ted-cruz-budget-deal/2013/12/20/id/543133

For that, I have to give him credit.

43 posted on 03/03/2014 1:17:21 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Monterrosa-24

M-24,

I posted this email fragment on another thread, early this morning. It is one of a dozen or so I have received from inside Russia. This author is a 47 YO female, a medical doctor, in Saint Petersburg. She wrote, in part:

“Please, Don,t worry about me. This is a troubled times really. People is Russia are separated as well about Putin,s plan.. Here are protests against and for his decision.. Interesting that the motto is the same - for Free Ukraine and for friendship !

“. If he wants only to sober up the wild nationalists and Russophobians in Ukraine and to let them know that Russians are under protection.. This is ok. If he wants using this excuse to start a war between Russians and Ukrainians for Crimea and the East part.. This is insane and extremely dangerous. It was fatal Khrushchev,s mistake for both countries when he gifted traditional Russian territory - Crimea - to Ukranian Soviet republic.. It was a bomb, that is ready to blow up..

“We are still free here to talk openly the point of view.. I don,t know how long .. I am afraid another iron curtain from both sides.. From inside and from the West as a punishment for Russia. I read yesterday The Us State secretary Kerry said about possible limitations or stopping receiving visa for Russians..well. Anything can happen in such crazy world.

“I have to go to work . The day will be long and busy.”

Yes, indeed life goes on. Later today she let me know that with the rapid fall of the ruble today, her landlord has informed her that rent will go up. She says inflation now is close to 20%.

My heart bleeds for her, people like her, Ukrainians, Russians, and all others negatively affected by Putin’s ego. It is sad. As she said in another email, she is ashamed and frightened because of the Russian government.

Gwjack


44 posted on 03/03/2014 1:21:43 PM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: Lorianne

“...they sure don’t hesitate to lecture us about their superior life styles...”

Ha! They sure do that!...in spades! And question us on racism, death penalty, gun culture, etc. But there are some nice ones too.


45 posted on 03/03/2014 1:27:00 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Go Ted.


46 posted on 03/03/2014 1:27:03 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

You always bring the Marxist spin to your observations.


47 posted on 03/03/2014 1:27:49 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot
That isolationist junk will only result in a world run by the likes of Putin and the Red Chinese. America can not allow that.

As if Putin and the "Red Chinese" are not engaged in trade or international banking with the US or the West.

The "world is run" by financial elites.
48 posted on 03/03/2014 2:07:47 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

If you think Putin is Hitler, then we mobilize the same for Putin has a bigger military, including atomic bombs. So lets draft 10,000,000, increase taxes, put Rosie the Riveter in the factories and get Congress to declare war. Get real, non-intervention is not isolationism. Let me know when Putin takes France and bombs Britain. War against the powers today is existential for the US. We must fight only if the USA is threatened not bleed to death for the world who start revolutions and want us to finish them for them.


49 posted on 03/03/2014 2:20:55 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook
Let me know when Putin takes France and bombs Britain.

Why the hell should we fight for the sharia republics of France of Britain?

50 posted on 03/03/2014 2:23:44 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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