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Posted on 03/03/2014 12:28:18 PM PST by xzins
“That’s like saying there are Irish in Boston.”
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There aren’t that many Irish in Boston anymore.
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An obscure radio blabbermouth as an expert on Ukraine? Good one. Read this morning’s WSJ and their reporter on the scene! I know another reporter, a Jew, who was on the Maidan during the bloody week there and reported no anti-semitic demonstrations or attacks.
+1.
Time will only tell. If you like, you can look up what plans Dugin and Zhirinovski have for Poland and the Baltic. (If I recall, it’s nothing original, to divide it with Germany)
No worse than the one here,
Reads like an old play from the 1920’s, only it is 100 years later. Old feuds between cousins, dating back to 1054 (when the Catholic and Orthodox churches split) with a bit of new trappings.
And, of course, Svoboda is not alone.
You’ve got: Tryzub, Bratsvo, Pravy Sektor, who call for “racial hygiene” and specifically “the expulsion of all Jews from Ukraine.”
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/ukraine/right-sector.htm
Well we have Poles who want to resurrect the Commonwealth. Everybody’s got them.
Russia has some obvious interests in maintaining the base in Crimea for the Black Sea fleet, and they are not likely to let it go. They may also be willing to proceed further into Ukraine to maintain control of their pipelines. They may even have designs to recreate some or most of their holdings from the USSR days. Such would put us back into the Cold War state of affairs, or perhaps into some of the greatly feared "beyond Cold War" scenarios.
We've seen that sort of Russia before.
However, the current greatest threat to American citizens is the communist/muslim alliance centered in Washington, D.C., and the jackboot thugs they are creating across the nation with re-purposed military hardware aimed at law-abiding citizens. This crap happening here makes Putin and Russia a far distant concern for the citizens of the USA.
All the anti-Ukraine rants about neo-nazis running wild across the Ukraine are obvious nonsense. More than 70% of the Ukraine people do not consider themselves Russian, and they have every right to govern themselves.
Neither Putin nor odinga have any business telling them how to structure their government.
This is like deja vu all over again. But we don’t know history, do we?
I just read about the Soviet take over of Eastern Europe following WWII, when there were still formerly anti-German partisans in those countries fighting the newly installed Communist regimes, that FDR and Churchill so cheerfully agreed to in Yalta and Tehran. And guess what, the propaganda campaign of the Communists was identical to the propaganda campaign today. Internal and external using their agents in the West: these people fighting us and our brave new utopia are neo-Nazis, anti-Semites. They were brutally eliminated by the NKVD and their local collaborators in every country. Imprisoned, tortured, murdered, their graves on trash heaps, that only know their memory is being revived as heroes and patriots. Shame on anyone who falls for this propaganda!
I would say the "Ukraine for the Ukrainians" would be a winner that most Ukrainians would support. Any variation of that slogan in Poland (where I lived for two years while the Communists were still running things) and other countries in Eastern Europe and the Baltics would be supported by the vast majority of the people.
Here is great peace of US propaganda narrated by Charlton Heston. It still sends chills through me.Let Poland "be Poland
Their primary goal appears to be expulsion of the ethnic Russians in Crimea.
If the truth be known, those feelings are shared by many countries that used to be part of the Soviet Empire. They still fear a Russian return. It is no secret that their eagerness to join NATO and the EU was motivated by fear of the Russians coming back.
Note: I am NOT saying the Ukranians don’t have a legitimate beef with the Russians. I am saying the leaders of the Ukrainian group (which is Svoboda, despite the alleged minor representation in government) are bad guys.
Every country has "bad guys," but they are a distinct minority. I don't understand why this is such a big issue when thousands of Russian troops have invaded the country and occupying it once again. Hitler claimed similar justification for the Sudetenland. The idea that Russia has a right to invade a country to protect ethnic Russians who are Ukrainian citizens is what smacks of Nazism, not a small radical political party.
“The situation is fluid, and the populace hasn’t had a fresh opportunity to express itself. I’m suspending judgment until that time.”
Sounds like a perfect fight to not be in, just like Syria.
Stalin's starvation genocide in Ukraine estimated at 7.3m dead is a historical fact. However, what is lesser known that the victims were mostly located in breadbasket region of Central and Eastern Ukraine, that means the majority of the victims were ethnic Russians, not ethnic Ukrainians.
This is not to say that ethnic Ukrainians did not die in Holodomor. They did, but they did not constitute 7.3m.
Nationalist ethnic Ukraininans played this card for too long. Sooner or later it will backfire on them.
There are several US military units that use the SS similar to the Nazi SS. They are not in any way Nazi, either.
Small minority, every village has its idiot.
So, how does it justify military intervention again ?
“I would say the “Ukraine for the Ukrainians” would be a winner that most Ukrainians would support.”
The phrase certainly worked for Hitler.
How long until the Russians accuse us of planting potato beetles?
That’s when you know the Cold War is really back on.
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