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President Obama’s foreign policy is based on fantasy
Washington Post ^ | Mar 2, 2014 | WaPo Editorial Board

Posted on 03/03/2014 1:32:22 PM PST by LeoWindhorse

FOR FIVE YEARS, President Obama has led a foreign policy based more on how he thinks the world should operate than on reality. It was a world in which “the tide of war is receding” and the United States could, without much risk, radically reduce the size of its armed forces.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoforeignpolicy; fantasy; foreignpolicy; iran; israel; lebanon; obama; obamalies; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; waronterror; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/03/2014 1:32:23 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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2 posted on 03/03/2014 1:34:14 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: LeoWindhorse

The left has been selling that fantasy his entire life. Why shouldn’t he believe it?


3 posted on 03/03/2014 1:34:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

So is his background, birthdate, college records, etc.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 1:34:29 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: LeoWindhorse

Hey, he stopped the oceans from rising and he is who we’ve been waiting for!!! OMG!! A Narcistic Communist.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 1:35:08 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Exactly


6 posted on 03/03/2014 1:35:31 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: LeoWindhorse

His entire life is an elaborate fabrication.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 1:39:20 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Thanks for the breaking news, washington post.


8 posted on 03/03/2014 1:40:07 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: LeoWindhorse
President Obama’s foreign policy is based on fantasy

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And every last one of them would vote for him again.

9 posted on 03/03/2014 1:40:14 PM PST by fso301
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To: Ann Archy

Actually, he’s who the communists/socialists
have been waiting and planning for.


10 posted on 03/03/2014 1:41:01 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Putin compares 0bama to playing chess with a pidgeon. The pidgeon walks around the board, knocking down pieces, crapping all over the place and then struts around as if he’s won the match.


11 posted on 03/03/2014 1:41:45 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: LeoWindhorse

What would Obama do if China decided to occupy a Hawaiian island like Lanai or Russia took over some of the Alaska Aleutian Islands?


12 posted on 03/03/2014 1:42:40 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: tet68

You got that right!


13 posted on 03/03/2014 1:43:57 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: lowbridge
Thanks for the breaking news, washington post.


14 posted on 03/03/2014 1:45:53 PM PST by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin - Last Man Standing (Ironic, ain't it?))
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To: LeoWindhorse

The key to this is who was Secretary of State during this “fantasy” time frame. I bet when she runs for president the post won’t be singing this tune.


15 posted on 03/03/2014 1:47:04 PM PST by pas
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To: LeoWindhorse
This is from the WaPo Editorial Board???

Bunch of racists.

16 posted on 03/03/2014 1:48:17 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Proud2BeRight

no , Russia’s interest had always been on Kauai


17 posted on 03/03/2014 1:49:16 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

What’s going on here? Is the WaPo finally tired of bleeding subscribers and advertisers?


18 posted on 03/03/2014 1:49:23 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Even the left is seeing through Obama now. The only people who fear him are the American people. And the only people who cheer his failures are the pro-Putin Neo-Imperialist Pseudo Conservatives. People who want a free and peaceful world say, “I told you so.”


19 posted on 03/03/2014 1:49:58 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

All I know is that if Woodward and Bernstein were still alive the WaPo would’ve been all over this years ago.


20 posted on 03/03/2014 1:50:57 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Just like his domestic policies.

He’s the CANDY MAN!!!!


21 posted on 03/03/2014 1:53:05 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: Texas Eagle

You mean if Woodward and Bernstein were principled men, or jut men...


22 posted on 03/03/2014 1:54:47 PM PST by stanne
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To: LeoWindhorse
A typical learning curve for the Post and the American left in general; it takes years and endless repetition for them to grasp the simplest and most obvious realities.
23 posted on 03/03/2014 1:55:16 PM PST by Will88
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To: LeoWindhorse

The Washington Post has looked at the world through the eyes of the Democrat party. They didn’t like that mean old cowboy Bush and those evil Republicans. The Democrats elected Obama President.....twice. This mess falls on the Democrat party. They didn’t care that Obama was inexperienced and incompetent and could never be a good leader or manager. He could win the Presidential race, and that’s all they cared about. The Editorial Board of The Washington Post should go and hang themselves.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 1:55:48 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: LeoWindhorse

His domestic policies are based on insane liberal fantasies.

Like his unaffordable care act, minimum wage wet dreams, and plans to tax the wage earners into poverty to share the wealth with the non producers.


25 posted on 03/03/2014 1:55:55 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: stanne

What are you saying? You telling me they’re still alive?


26 posted on 03/03/2014 1:57:17 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Diogenesis

[ So is his background, birthdate, college records, etc.]

His economic polcies, his environmental policy, etc etc et al...


27 posted on 03/03/2014 2:03:43 PM PST by GraceG
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To: tet68
"Actually, he’s who the communists/socialists have been waiting and planning for. "

More like the one that the communists and soros have been training to be inserted here.

28 posted on 03/03/2014 2:03:45 PM PST by matthew fuller (We desperately need a Commander in Chief, not a Coward in Chief.)
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To: Texas Eagle

You’re pulling my leg, right?

Partisan hacks


29 posted on 03/03/2014 2:04:53 PM PST by stanne
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To: blueunicorn6

I totally agree , but isn’t it wonderful that they are now eating their own ?


30 posted on 03/03/2014 2:08:49 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse
Everything the little girly-man does is based on fantasy.


31 posted on 03/03/2014 2:10:46 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Yes.


32 posted on 03/03/2014 2:11:49 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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33 posted on 03/03/2014 2:12:41 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: LeoWindhorse

Un-Realpolitik


34 posted on 03/03/2014 2:13:13 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

It’s based on the fact that America causes harm and needs to be chopped down to size.


35 posted on 03/03/2014 2:23:12 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: LeoWindhorse

yet this same editorial board endorsed him and encouraged their readers to vote for him - now here come the consequences.


36 posted on 03/03/2014 2:33:22 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: LeoWindhorse

Welcome To Obama-World


37 posted on 03/03/2014 2:46:34 PM PST by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: LeoWindhorse
"... FOR FIVE YEARS, President Obama has led a foreign policy based more on how he thinks the world should operate than on reality."

But I just read an opinion column in the New York Times that claimed Obama's foreign policy has been a success because his expectations are based on reality, not how he thinks the world should operate.

38 posted on 03/03/2014 2:50:20 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Texas Eagle

I hope their tax records are up to date, the IRS will be knocking on their door in 5...4...3...2....


39 posted on 03/03/2014 2:58:51 PM PST by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: LeoWindhorse
I think Mr. Obama knows a thing or two about fantasy


40 posted on 03/03/2014 3:03:24 PM PST by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: LeoWindhorse
Unfortunately, Russian President Vladimir Putin has not received the memo on 21st-century behavior. Neither has China’s president, Xi Jinping, who is engaging in gunboat diplomacy against Japan and the weaker nations of Southeast Asia. Syrian president Bashar al-Assad is waging a very 20th-century war against his own people, sending helicopters to drop exploding barrels full of screws, nails and other shrapnel onto apartment buildings where families cower in basements. These men will not be deterred by the disapproval of their peers, the weight of world opinion or even disinvestment by Silicon Valley companies. They are concerned primarily with maintaining their holds on power.

Jeff - this is worth reading. Seems not all people who write for the Washington Post live in Unicorn land...

41 posted on 03/03/2014 3:14:31 PM PST by GOPJ ("Putin's playing chess ... weÂ’re playing marbles" - - Mike Rogers, R-Mich)
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Mar 2, 2014

There Will Be Blood, Our Own

by Angelo M. Codevilla

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2014/03/02/there-will-be-blood-our-own/

“Combining the unbridled tongue with the unready hand.” Thus did Theodore Roosevelt define statesmanship at its worst. This is what America’s bipartisan ruling class is giving us.

The Obama Administration tried buffering last week’s announcement that it is reducing the US Army’s size to below its levels of 1940 (when the world’s population was less than one third what it is today) by suggesting that it would concentrate on mastery of the sea and of space. But the announcement’s not-so fine print envisaged cutting the number of US aircraft carriers, among other things. Like its predecessors, this administration is committed not to build the weapons that would let America secure orbital space for our own satellites and against ballistic missiles coming our way. As under its predecessors, this administration is devoting fewer and fewer dollars to weapons and to those who use them, while it diverts more and more to bureaucracy. Today, more than half of military personnel are behind desks.

The bottom line is that the United States of America has an increasingly hollow military. As politicians of both parties issue sonorous warnings and give inflammatory advice as if they were responsible for everything under the sun, American soldiers and sailors are spread around the globe, less feared and hence more hated, exposed to attacks against which they are less and less able to defend themselves. With ever less capacity to deal with the situations into which they are thrust, they are becoming symbols of American decline rather than of strength.

Consider East Asia, where the US Navy enforced America’s peace for three generations. Today America’s incapacity to deal with China’s (and its North Korean surrogate’s) assertion of power over the Western Pacific is the catalyst of rising Japanese militarism and of the rest of the region’s scramble for security. That incapacity is as political as it is military. While China is building a credible force of ballistic missiles, swarms of cruise missiles from sea and airborne platforms, as well as bottom-dwelling submarines to sink US Navy ships that come too close, our navy has shrunk in size, its pilots have less flight hours than their Chinese counterparts, and it lacks missile defenses. Moreover, the US government has been steady in its decision not to base its military position in the South China Sea on the unsinkable island of Taiwan. Too provocative.

But although the US preoccupation with not provoking China has not moderated Chinese military preparations, it surely has helped provoke the rebirth of Japanese militarism. Polls show that four fifths of Japanese view China as an enemy, but fewer than half have confidence in America’s help because they view America, correctly, as willing to sacrifice Japan’s interests to China’s.

We Americans have maintained our version of peace in the Western Pacific not in the interest of Japan or of anyone else, but in our own. Should we, upon deliberation, decide not to impede China’s assertion of power in the region, and to countenance whatever efforts (including nuclear ones) Japan will make to protect itself, it would make sense for us to withdraw our fleet from the region. Keeping it there without the military capacity or the political intention to maintain the Pax Americana would only get us into the middle of a war for stakes largely not our own and whose initial stages we would likely lose.

Something like that has happened before. A hundred years ago Theodore Roosevelt had warned Americans that, if we wanted peace in the Pacific, we should either withdraw from the Philippines or build a navy that Japan must respect. We did neither. Instead, US policy consisted of sonorous moral commitments to peace and good order, coupled with an increasingly hollow military: the unbridled tongue and the unready hand. The American people paid the price in blood.

Balancing ends and means has ever been the essence of practical wisdom in international affairs. Arguably the only sensible thing that President Obama has said regarding international affairs – whether he meant it is beside the point – is that America will not again engage in occupations. That was another of the excuses he gave for reducing the US Army. But if the US military will not be good for that bad purpose, for what will it be good? Certainly, Obama’s emphasis on “special forces” and “cyber security” will leave the US military incapable of dealing with serious adversaries, anywhere.

No matter. On Friday, February 28 Barack Obama told the world that the United States government is “deeply concerned” by “reports of military movements taken by the Russian Federation inside Ukraine.” He warned Russia not to interfere in Ukraine and threatened that if it does, “there will be costs.” Given the imbalance between this Administration’s tongue and its hand, Americans and Ukrainians have more to fear than does Vladimir Putin.

Angelo M. Codevilla

Angelo M. Codevilla is professor emeritus of international relations at Boston University. He served as a U.S. Senate Staff member dealing with oversight of the intelligence services. His book Peace Among Ourselves and With All Nations is forthcoming from Hoover Institution Press.


42 posted on 03/03/2014 3:17:11 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Jeff Head
These men will not be deterred by the disapproval of their peers, the weight of world opinion or even disinvestment by Silicon Valley companies. They are concerned primarily with maintaining their holds on power. Jeff - this is worth reading. Seems not all people who write for the Washington Post live in Unicorn land every second of every day... There are parts of this piece that make sense.
43 posted on 03/03/2014 3:18:07 PM PST by GOPJ ("Putin's playing chess ... weÂ’re playing marbles" - - Mike Rogers, R-Mich)
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44 posted on 03/03/2014 3:21:02 PM PST by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: TigersEye
His entire life is an elaborate fabrication.

As opposed to Bill Clinton whose life has been one elaborate fornication. :-)

45 posted on 03/03/2014 3:43:17 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: matthew fuller

More like the one that the communists and soros have been training to be inserted here.

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Exactly.


46 posted on 03/03/2014 4:07:14 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Hardastarboard
LOL

Then there was Jimmuh Cawtuh whose life has been one long rabid rabbit attack!

47 posted on 03/03/2014 4:11:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

My people love me.

48 posted on 03/03/2014 4:16:45 PM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
China has bullied the Philippines and unilaterally staked claims to wide swaths of international air space and sea lanes as it continues a rapid and technologically impressive military buildup. Arguably, it has paid a price in the nervousness of its neighbors, who are desperate for the United States to play a balancing role in the region. But none of those neighbors feel confident that the United States can be counted on . . . As Mr. Putin ponders whether to advance further — into eastern Ukraine, say — he will measure the seriousness of U.S. and allied actions, not their statements. China, pondering its next steps in the East China Sea, will do the same. Sadly, that’s the nature of the century we’re living in.

As we grow weaker..

I have long believed that Deng's reforms and "[scientific] socialism with Chinese characteristics" is modeled after Lenin's New Economic Policy (NEP). The Chinese Communist Party did it right though.. they and their families became billionaires. The Bolshevik dopes stuck with scientific socialism (Marxism) and ended NEP after a few years.

NEP was immediately after the Revolution. The Bolsheviks desperately needed to get a working economy and they permitted "Nepmen" the freedom to engage in free enterprise.

They also invited the likes of Henry Ford to build factories, I believe. (Lenin called 'em useful idiots). Soon the economy was going well and the Bolsheviks were safely in charge. Time to finish the Plan.. I believe that was to seize the useful idiots' assets and dispose of the Nepmen.

I can see where Red China is getting close to that part of Deng's version of NEP. Who's going to stop them from seizing assets under the kind of authority that has been exercised right here in the U.S.? Even if when the Reds use lies.. how is that different from Obama BTW?

The commies will still have the factories. What difference will it make to those who love that cheap stuff from Red China? The Communists can put the useful idiots on a slow boat back to America -- in one of the hundreds of thousands of cargo containers.

49 posted on 03/03/2014 4:18:10 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

But of course the gaggle of journos at the WaPo will never, ever, ever connect their chosen one next in line for the Presidency, Hillary Clinton, to Obama’s fantasy-filled foreign policy.


50 posted on 03/03/2014 4:19:49 PM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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