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Nearly 1 in 5 had mental illness before enlisting in Army, study says
The Los Angeles Times ^ | March 3, 2014 | Alan Zarembo

Posted on 03/04/2014 1:20:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Nearly 1 in 5 U.S. soldiers had a common mental illness, such as depression, panic disorder or ADHD, before enlisting in the Army, according to a new study that raises questions about the military's assessment and screening of recruits.

More than 8% of soldiers had thought about killing themselves and 1.1% had a past suicide attempt, researchers found from confidential surveys and interviews with 5,428 soldiers at Army installations across the country.

The findings, published online Monday in two papers in JAMA Psychiatry, point to a weakness in the recruiting process, experts said. Applicants are asked about their psychiatric histories, and those with certain disorders or past suicide attempts are generally barred from service.

"The question becomes, 'How did these guys get in the Army?'" said Ronald Kessler, a Harvard University sociologist who led one of the studies.

A third study looked at the increased suicide rate among soldiers from 2004 to 2009. The study, which tracked nearly 1 million soldiers, found that those who had been deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq had an increased rate of suicide....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: adhd; army; mentalillness; military
You probably do need your head examined if you joined with "you-know-who" in the head shed, said the guy who first signed up in 1977.
1 posted on 03/04/2014 1:20:58 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ADHD is one of the most over prescribed “illnesses” ever.

It has become and excuse to make boys behave like girls through drugs.


2 posted on 03/04/2014 1:27:20 AM PST by DB
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To: DB

Considering what constitutes “mental illness” these days, I’m surprised the number isn’t higher.
Every time someone “feels” like their life isn’t perfect, our society has taught him or her to get “help”.
Suck it up, kids. Life’s hard. It’s harder if you’re stupid.


3 posted on 03/04/2014 1:45:08 AM PST by CPONav
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As someone who actually has ADD (without the H), and who enlisted in the Army, all I needed was a waiver to get in. I never had any thoughts of killing myself, despite getting deployed for Desert Storm. My unit had one guy go AWOL before deployment, and one of our NCOs freaked during an air raid warning and refused to wear her gas mask, but I did fine.


4 posted on 03/04/2014 1:49:23 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just to add: frankly, I wouldn’t put ADHD/ADD in the “mental illness” category. Having the disorder doesn’t make you unstable, or incapable of determining reality, or any other debilitating mental state. Certainly there is (in my experience) no aspect of ADHD that makes suicide or self-harm more likely, and none of the more-established medications used in treating the condition enhance the likelihood of such thoughts.


5 posted on 03/04/2014 1:53:32 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: DB
That is what happens when you have a 13 year war. You need people to fight and will accept people that other wise you wouldn't. President Bush knew that requirements would have to be loosened. No biggie. In 2015-2016, the requirements will tighten as the war begin to whine down.
6 posted on 03/04/2014 2:01:34 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This information will be used to strip them of their gun rights...


7 posted on 03/04/2014 2:31:03 AM PST by bike800
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Couldn’t this same 1 in 5 be a description for the whole population? Is this a hit piece on the military?


8 posted on 03/04/2014 2:41:05 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

Yep, just another hit piece on the military.
How about a study of journos.
I am sure the numbers would be four out of five.


9 posted on 03/04/2014 2:55:46 AM PST by Post5203 (For the first time in my life, I despise this country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nearly 1 in 5 had mental illness before enlisting in Army, study says

That would account for the number of gay troops, I suppose.

10 posted on 03/04/2014 3:12:19 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
consider the sourcing; it's Barbara Streisand..reading no further.

11 posted on 03/04/2014 3:14:05 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah. According to this regime believing that you were born the wrong gender or are sexually attracted to other men’s effluent tubes is not mental illness but being a Constitutionalist is.


12 posted on 03/04/2014 4:03:10 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Post5203
Yep, just another hit piece on the military. How about a study of journos. I am sure the numbers would be four out of five.

Or how about members of Congress? That ought to be interesting.

13 posted on 03/04/2014 4:06:22 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

80% of government employees have mental illness. Before and now.


14 posted on 03/04/2014 4:07:58 AM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When new guys would report aboard a submarine we used to have a betting pool whether they would make it the first year or crack and either fake an illness or go nuts.

There are people with problems in every field. High amounts of stress usually bring those problems into public view. The military can be very stressfuly.


15 posted on 03/04/2014 4:11:02 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: Pan_Yan

You mean everything is not like a Tom Clancy novel?


16 posted on 03/04/2014 4:15:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You mean everything is not like a Tom Clancy novel?

When I was a young man I enjoyed reading Clancy. However my view of the military has matured greatly in the decades since. You gain a lot of perspective after you've been out a while.

17 posted on 03/04/2014 4:23:39 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: Pan_Yan

How did it change?


18 posted on 03/04/2014 4:25:40 AM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Pan_Yan

I enjoy WEB Griffin as well, but his “hook” is that the main characters are almost always wealthy, which you and I know is rare in the military.


19 posted on 03/04/2014 4:25:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee, I bet that means that can’t own guns now.


20 posted on 03/04/2014 4:26:34 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: napscoordinator

Yeah, now you have to be gay.


21 posted on 03/04/2014 4:29:47 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems to me that the ADHD type would make good NCO and second lieutenant material.


22 posted on 03/04/2014 4:30:44 AM PST by fso301
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To: Chickensoup
The military is not a be-all end-all. It is a part of a much larger picture. There are people here who will scream and rant at any perceived slight at the military; never willing to admit when it has serious problems. On the other hand there are people who go to the other extreme and assume every military decision in the last five years is part of an evil White House plot. Both groups have lost perspective.
23 posted on 03/04/2014 4:35:54 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I went to my officer basic course with an heir to the Gatorade fortune. True to WEB Griffin’s wealthier characters, he had a bit of devil-may-care attitude. What are they going to do? Throw me out? That didn’t keep him from being a conscientious and focused officer, but it did give him a little more levity to do things his way. I can understand why Griffin creates such characters.


24 posted on 03/04/2014 4:43:02 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Geez, Winston Churchill had depression and he was a military badass..... although on the other hand many of his comrades did suggest that he enjoyed battle a bit too much, so maybe he was slightly unhinged.


25 posted on 03/04/2014 4:43:41 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And homos have been declared normal.


26 posted on 03/04/2014 4:44:45 AM PST by onedoug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ADHD is the diagnosis used to excuse stupefying our kids as the substitute for parenting.

Parenting which is nearly impossible with either both working or one parent families.


27 posted on 03/04/2014 5:31:08 AM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know how they sucked this one out of their thumb.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/adhd.htm

Percent of boys 3-17 years of age ever diagnosed with ADHD: 13.5%

Number of children 3-17 years of age ever diagnosed with ADHD: 5.9 million

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/depression-in-children-and-adolescents/index.shtml

About 11% of adolescents have a depressive disorder by age 18 according to the National Comorbidity Survey-Adolescent Supplement (NCS-A).

*Yep, add them together and that’s around 1 in 5 recruits.*


28 posted on 03/04/2014 6:04:25 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Corps and the Army are pretty successful at curing ADHD without drugs.
29 posted on 03/04/2014 6:11:26 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: caver
Based upon my completely solid observations of the world the 1 in 5 is WAAAYYYY better than I experience with everyday society. For example 2 in 5 FReepers appear to be unstable on any given thread.
30 posted on 03/04/2014 6:14:59 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Little Pig; 2ndDivisionVet
This entire story line is to further the notion that ex-military all have a metal disorder to some degree.

This meme will then be used to deny guns to those most capable to use them responsibly.

After all, what dictator wants trained, disciplined and armed men in the populace?

Bad for the Dear Leader's health, don't cha' know.

31 posted on 03/04/2014 6:19:31 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Yes Doc, I have considered committing suicide. Can I get back to the rifle range now?”


32 posted on 03/04/2014 6:19:46 AM PST by moovova
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To: mad_as_he$$

“For example 2 in 5 FReepers appear to be unstable on any given thread.”

Ha, ha!


33 posted on 03/04/2014 6:47:41 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: bike800; All
This information will be used to strip them of their gun rights...

This.

34 posted on 03/04/2014 6:53:50 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Erik Prince of Blackwater fame was a SEAL and came from a VERY wealthy family. By all accounts he was a good SEAL and a great leader. He bailed on an Annapolis appointment early on because of the frat boy mentality there. Oh and he is deeply religous.

http://www.amazon.com/Master-War-Blackwater-Prince-Business/dp/B005IUY3VO

35 posted on 03/04/2014 7:05:46 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: napscoordinator

I would sign up again today, if it wasn’t for age and them making it a queer military :/

I’ve already been through 2 branches, I would make it a third and fourth branch if needed.... But. today, no way.

I have been in several conversations with young peeps (usually between 18-29 years old in the last 3 or so years. I told them straight up, “don’t go in now, things are about to get real nasty, real fast” (and it had nothing to do with Boot-Camp).


36 posted on 03/04/2014 7:18:51 AM PST by Bikkuri ( those would have been affected.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How can ADD be a mental disorder? There are no set guidelines for diagnosis. A child having difficulty paying attention in a boring class does not have a psychiatric problem. The cattle car overseers with their cookie cutter classrooms on the other hand may have a need for psychiatric intervention. Give a child who cannot pay attention to an English teacher an engine to repair, and you will see their attention span go way up. So what kind of person do you want repairing fighter aircraft engines? The one who reads Beowulf or the one who can take apart and put together any piece of machinery in front of them?

The military is being run by some real nut jobs these days. That is not to say there are not good people in the military. But they are in a bad spot and need prayers to keep up the good fight.


37 posted on 03/04/2014 7:19:20 AM PST by petitfour
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That stat will increase what with homosexuals being actively recruited!


38 posted on 03/04/2014 10:10:15 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guess I was one who didn’t slip through the cracks.


39 posted on 03/04/2014 5:12:27 PM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: napscoordinator

“In 2015-2016, the requirements will tighten as the war begin to whine down”

As long as we are in Afganistan and Iraq the war will not “wind down”. Every day an American soldier dies in Iraq or Afganistan and the deaths are now ignored. They will continue to die until every last soldier has left those two countries, and since we will never leave, the deaths will continue to hell freezes over.


40 posted on 03/06/2014 11:30:09 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christin' raisin', an 8th grade education, ain't no need ya'll treatin' me this way")
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To: Bikkuri

I would last about 10 minutes in today military. The first time some dyke or faggot commander officer said something smart to me about having to condone their filthy lifestyle I would tell them George Washington didn’t condone sodomy and Stonewall Jackson had them shot. I don’t think I would win in the running for NCO of the Month.


41 posted on 03/06/2014 11:40:54 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("I got a good Christin' raisin', an 8th grade education, ain't no need ya'll treatin' me this way")
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To: onedoug

And the transsexuals as well.


42 posted on 03/07/2014 10:39:59 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I'm tired of the Liberals and their stupidity!)
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