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Humanist group sues to remove cross-shaped WWI memorial in Maryland
foxnews.com ^ | March 4, 2014

Posted on 03/04/2014 4:05:27 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

A humanist advocacy group has filed a federal lawsuit to remove a cross-shaped World War I memorial in Prince George's County, alleging the display violates the First Amendment.

The American Humanist Association says it does not object to the fact that the Bladensburg Cross memorializes soldiers, but rather the placement of the Christian symbol on property owned by a government agency, The Daily Record reported.

"We are certainly recommending coming up with a monument inclusive of all religious groups," said Monica Miller, a lawyer with the association's Appignani Humanist Legal Center.

In 2012, the group sent a letter to the Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission demanding that the cross be removed from the war memorial. The group said it would have no objection if the cross was on private land, MyFoxDC.com reported.

According to the report, the lawsuit names as plaintiffs two local American Humanist Association members and a third individual -- each of whom had "unwelcome contact" with the monument.

Steven Lowe, a plaintiff from Washington, said was "shocked" when he first saw the cross and is "upset" whenever he passes it, according to the complaint obtained by the newspaper.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: cross; lawsuit; pagans; purge
When will someone stand up to these bullying atheists? So this little wimp is "upset" whenever he passes it. So take another route, moron.
1 posted on 03/04/2014 4:05:27 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

I get upset every time I hear 0’s name. Who do I sue?


2 posted on 03/04/2014 4:10:26 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’m sick to death of this. The courts need to apply commonsense in these cases and just say “don’t look if it offends you”


3 posted on 03/04/2014 4:10:49 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
Exactly.

What the 1st Ammendment allows can not be dis-allowed by the 1st Ammendment.

4 posted on 03/04/2014 4:15:49 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: ilovesarah2012; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maryland ping....


5 posted on 03/04/2014 4:15:54 AM PST by momtothree
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To: from occupied ga

My response as well. Obama make me sick. Who do I sue?


6 posted on 03/04/2014 4:19:39 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

The inmates are tightening their grip on the assylum.


7 posted on 03/04/2014 4:21:06 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: ilovesarah2012
For those not familiar with the area, the cross stands in a small traffic circle at the foot of one of the Anacostia River bridges. The circle is the intersection of Bladensburg Road, US Alt. 1, and highways 202/450, which are funneling at that point across the bridge, so it's completely surrounded by highways. It is a prominent location.

The linked news story shows an unflattering perspective. Time has not been kind to Bladensburg, but if the photographer had stood on the other side of the monument, he would have shown the riverbank and bridge. If you pull up a satellite image, you will see that the bridge is immediately below the confluence of the Eastern Branch and the Northwest Branch, which unite at Bladensburg to form the Anacostia River. This was a port in colonial and early federal times, but the river silted up long ago.

8 posted on 03/04/2014 4:21:21 AM PST by sphinx
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To: ilovesarah2012

How delicate are they!


9 posted on 03/04/2014 4:25:35 AM PST by RginTN
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To: ilovesarah2012

Patient: Doctor, my arm hurts if I do this.
Doctor: Don’t do that.


10 posted on 03/04/2014 4:30:42 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Humanist?????
Is that just a politically correct word for degenerate godless atheist?


11 posted on 03/04/2014 4:31:55 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Humanists claim that people can be “good without God.” To prove it, they spend their lives persuing the destruction of all that is good.


12 posted on 03/04/2014 4:32:59 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Whoever these people are, they must not drive around Maryland much. I see little roadside crosses all over Maryland, many of which appear to be on public property.


13 posted on 03/04/2014 4:33:56 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Hey all you morons of the American Humanist Association: If you really want to get offended, ride over to the Arlington National Cemetery and take a look at the thousands of white crosses. Those are the folks who fought and died so that your sorry asses could consume oxygen upon this Earth that God created.


14 posted on 03/04/2014 4:40:08 AM PST by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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To: BuffaloJack

Yep. An atheist is an atheist no matter what name they hide behind.

They have learned from the homosexuals. Just keep pushing and Christians will roll over.


15 posted on 03/04/2014 4:49:48 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

You’d think these people are vampires, as terrified as they are of crosses.


16 posted on 03/04/2014 4:55:38 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

You may be on to something.


17 posted on 03/04/2014 4:56:40 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ImNotLying

The following is a listing of Civil War Army Corps Badges (symbols) that often adorn gravestones and Monuments in the memory of the men who served. The following Corps contained a cross figure:
V; VI; XVI; XVIII; XIX and so these symbols will have to be obliterated.
The VII and XI Corps have a moon crescent symbol and they can stay as can VIII Corps symbol which has a Star of David; Diversity you know.
A number have triangles and three leaf symbols which might be construed as being part of the religious TRINITY sign.
I hope none of the MLK statues do not show any Christian symbols, removal of those can cause a racial riot..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War_Corps_Badges


18 posted on 03/04/2014 5:12:28 AM PST by BilLies (330,000 WHITE Union military went to their deaths to free the slaves .... REALLY???!!!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Let’s mount a big campaign to remove all the publicly funded humanist memorials that make no reference to a superior power. They offend me, and make me feel excluded. How can they do that to us?


19 posted on 03/04/2014 5:28:45 AM PST by _longranger81
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To: ilovesarah2012

Bladensburg, Md.
Where the Battle of Bladensburg took place in 1814. Also known as the Bladensburg Races, because of the way our defenders broke ranks and ran from the Redcoats on their way to burn Washington, DC.
Also was the home of the Crossroads Tavern where one of the greatest of the unknown guitar players,Roy Buchanan, played for many years.
The Peace Cross is a landmark enjoyed by many for close to 100 years.
This clown who was shocked when he saw it ought to get a life.


20 posted on 03/04/2014 5:28:58 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: BilLies

FYI- know your enemy.
http://americanhumanist.org/HNN/details/2013-07-indiana-teenager-wins-national-robert-g-ingersoll-or

Mr. Steve Lowe is pictured in the article.

A lot of name calling regarding atheists here on this site. I am an atheist; most atheists are not bigots, mainly libertarians. I have found many of the bigoted anti- Christian atheists to be secular Christians and Jews.


21 posted on 03/04/2014 5:30:53 AM PST by BilLies (330,000 WHITE Union military went to their deaths to free the slaves .... REALLY???!!!)
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To: zot; SeraphimApprentice

Anti-Cross ping — now in Maryland


22 posted on 03/04/2014 5:35:29 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“We are certainly recommending coming up with a monument inclusive of all religious groups,” said Monica Miller, a lawyer with the association’s Appignani Humanist Legal Center.

Well Ms. Miller I suggest you pay a visit to Arlington national Cemetery or FT Indiantown Gap National Cemetery where my father is buried or any other National cemetery. 98% of the tombstones /plaques bear the Christian Cross. Most of the remainder bear the Jewish star and a handful bear nothing or something only meaningful to the person buried under it. So shut up and leave us alone.


23 posted on 03/04/2014 6:04:30 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

In 2012, the group sent a letter to the Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission demanding that the cross be removed from the war memorial. The group said it would have no objection if the cross was on private land, MyFoxDC.com reported.

Makes no difference what land it is on. Those soldiers earned that right PERIOD....................


24 posted on 03/04/2014 6:05:47 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Contrary to popular opinion, Jesus Christ is referred to as “Lord” in the Constitution:
Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth. In Witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names.
Even if that is not taken as indicative that all of the Framers were christians, it clearly was not assumed by the Framers that the Constitution would have been easier to get ratified by the states if that language were left out. As clearly it could have been - and, if the infamous three-vote attempt by the rank and file at the Democratic convention to shout down an expression of respect for God in 2012 is taken as illustrative, certainly would have been, by a group of modern-day Democrats.

I find it difficult to visualize Vladimir Lenin putting "in the Year of our Lord" in a fundamental document when he could benchmark a date to the “glorious revolution" instead. Consider, the Soviets promoted the idea of changing the length of the week from seven days, with the obvious intent of desynchronizing the secular calendar from the religious one, and ultimately deinstitutionalizing the latter.


25 posted on 03/04/2014 6:07:42 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
the group sent a letter ... demanding that the cross be removed ...
Demanding? This "humanist" group has as much standing as ...
26 posted on 03/04/2014 6:21:08 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Surely, there must be private property adjacent to the govt property that would be willing to showcase the memorial in an in your face move?


27 posted on 03/04/2014 6:44:29 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: exDemMom

Heaven forbid that those symbol sensitive folks come to my part of Kansas, for we have hundreds of T shaped objects lining many of out roads and highways. Many of them are on public lands. We call them power poles, but maybe they are really Christian cross symbols. Horrors of horrors for not even one of them is crescent shaped! We also have a slew of t shaped symbols in our books and on road side billboards. We call them the letter T but they are really Christian crosses disguised as letters, especially troublesome is that lower case t. In Kansas those poor folks would be constantly sick. We need to get rid of these hateful symbols! (Sarcasm tag)


28 posted on 03/04/2014 6:47:43 AM PST by cotton
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To: Palio di Siena

Also home to one of the oldest taverns on the East Coast, until a few years ago, when it was changed to a real estate office. I guess it’s some kind of county park office now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_House_(Bladensburg,_Maryland)

I used to live just up the road in Hyattsville. Every year, 1812 re-enactors gather on the lawn of Riverdale Mansion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riversdale_(Riverdale_Park,_Maryland)) to celebrate the rout of US force at skirmish there.


29 posted on 03/04/2014 6:59:58 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: GreyFriar

I hope someone will defend Peace Cross against these anti-Christians.


30 posted on 03/04/2014 8:08:09 AM PST by zot
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To: ilovesarah2012; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

"We are certainly recommending coming up with a monument inclusive of all religious groups," said Monica Miller, a lawyer with the association's Appignani Humanist Legal Center.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaa???

This thing wasn't meant for the present-day living!!!

Maryland "Freak State" PING!

31 posted on 03/04/2014 6:27:35 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Steven Lowe, a plaintiff from Washington, said was "shocked" when he first saw the cross and is "upset" whenever he passes it, according to the complaint obtained by the newspaper.

I guess he passes it on the way to the gay pride parade?

32 posted on 03/04/2014 6:28:50 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: ilovesarah2012
He's "upset?" I wonder how he'll feel when he wakes up in Hell?



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

33 posted on 03/04/2014 6:37:29 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: BuffaloJack

Humanist?????
Is that just a politically correct word for degenerate godless atheist?

(((
Pretty much.


34 posted on 03/04/2014 6:38:41 PM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Palio di Siena
Dear Palio di Siena,

Mr. Buchanan lived briefly next door to my wife's family when she was young. Apparently, he and his wife had fallen on tough times, and were renting the basement of the neighbor's house in Bladensburg. He was going to get out of the music business, and he was attending barber school.

But around 9 months into barber school, he got signed to a record deal, and that was that.


sitetest

35 posted on 03/04/2014 6:42:04 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

And I’m upset whenever I see that mosque not 30 mi from this site, or the new one 2mi from my childhood home (still 10 min from me). Which is no more than an hour from there.

So, I should sue because I’m offended by this Moslem invasion of symbols.


36 posted on 03/04/2014 7:00:57 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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If Christians can have no crosses on govt property, then Humanists can have no humans on govt property either. So there!


37 posted on 03/04/2014 7:05:49 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

No humans... my cat would be copacetic with that. Until feeding time.


38 posted on 03/04/2014 7:06:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Gene Eric

Oh yeah, and Atheists can have no not-God on govt property either.


39 posted on 03/04/2014 7:07:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Howdy, HTRN!


40 posted on 03/04/2014 7:11:54 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

The funny thing is this property has DEvolved in centrality, from state to local. The less central, the more rights the locality has to do what it likes, and not try to avoid all hurts and boo-boos.


41 posted on 03/04/2014 7:18:27 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I wonder if somebody would want to collect up all these now-unwanted crosses and such, and place them in a private memorial dedicated to unwanted memorials.


42 posted on 03/04/2014 8:17:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: sitetest

It is said that Erik Clapton and Jerry Garcia among others went to see Buchanan at the Cross Roads. I don’t know, I went many times during my time at the University of Maryland just up the road in. College Park.
The legend was that he turned down an offer to join the Rolling Stones, but that’s hard to believe. I was and still am a big fan of his.


43 posted on 03/04/2014 8:58:40 PM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

After all the stink in San Diego, I was wondering when the azzhats would attack the “Peace Cross” in Bladensburg. Since the cross was erected by the American Legion, don’t they have to take it down?


44 posted on 03/05/2014 3:58:12 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother ("When leftists don’t get their way, they start shooting people and bombing buildings." - rr)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Unless they can conclusively determine that the WWII heroes who actually died would have objected to the memorial or that a substantial number had an alternate religion, this objection should not stand. American soldiers were overwhelmingly Christians at that time, or had accepted that the nation was overwhelmingly Christian and founded on Christian moral principles. Back then, even men who were drafted had the option of conscientious objection. If they served, they deserve their Christian monument: “Greater love has no man than he lay down his life for his friends.”

Just down the road from that memorial, the strip malls of Bladensburg contain thousands of acknowledgements of her atheism: fast food joints, strip clubs, dirty magazine shops, pawnbrokers, used car lots...


45 posted on 03/05/2014 7:37:21 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: ilovesarah2012; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

46 posted on 03/05/2014 7:46:36 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The priest at my Catholic church summed it up perfectly tonight when discussing this subject on Ash Wednesday Mass: “Of course some people will be offended [about this Bladensburg cross issue]. And most offended is the Evil One himself and all of his followers!”

Perfect.


47 posted on 03/05/2014 4:39:04 PM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: Albion Wilde

Oh, the humanity!


48 posted on 03/06/2014 1:13:19 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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