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BarackObama reportedly planning #obamacare plan cancellation delay…
redstte.com ^ | 3/4/14 | Moe Lane

Posted on 03/04/2014 6:38:14 AM PST by cotton1706

in order to help(?) Democrats.

The Obama administration is set to announce another major delay in implementing the Affordable Care Act, easing election pressure on Democrats.

As early as this week, according to two sources, the White House will announce a new directive allowing insurers to continue offering health plans that do not meet ObamaCare’s minimum coverage requirements.

Prolonging the “keep your plan” fix will avoid another wave of health policy cancellations otherwise expected this fall.

Couple of things about this. Note that all of this assumes that the administration can get away with unilaterally and retroactively changing the health care law again: Barack Obama is riding the GOP’s quite understandable reluctance to impeach him right into the ground*.

First off: hey, remember when the Democrats were all absolutely certain that Obamacare was going to lock in the American voting public for a generation**?

Second: will something like this even work as a blatant political ploy when everybody reports it as being a blatant political ploy? Don’t be so quick to say ‘yes:’ this administration isn’t actually very good at this.

Third: let us assume, for the moment, that insurers can go along with this scheme (and that it will actually happen). The basic result? …Increased uncertainty. The brutal truth of the matter is that some very unpleasant things are going to happen to people’s healthcare, and that these unpleasant things have been mandated by law. The Democrats would not expect organizations engaged in any other activities to properly function under a regime where they knew that they would be hammered, just not when: why do they expect businesses to operate differently?

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; aca; bho44; dncstrategy; elections; obamacare
"Fourth: this is a fun one, for given (and actually scary) values of ‘fun.’ Is the administration planning to allow healthcare companies to offer those used-to-be-horrid-according-to-Democratic-agitprop healthcare plans to the uninsured, too? – Because if they don’t, congratulations: the Democratic party has just implemented a caste system in American healthcare. Don’t quit your current job, because if you do you lose your current kind of decent healthcare and have to take one of those Obamacare plans that those people are stuck with."

The minions in the executive agencies must all be scrambling lately!

1 posted on 03/04/2014 6:38:14 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

How is this fair to those who were already dumped off their plans?

Not to mention, since Obamacare is a tax, why are some going to be punished and others not?

Seems like this is unconstitutional.


2 posted on 03/04/2014 6:43:08 AM PST by dforest
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To: cotton1706

I forget who said it, but this is clearly applicable: “The best way to deal with bad laws is to enforce them completely.”


3 posted on 03/04/2014 6:43:29 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: cotton1706

And the GOPelite will do nothing. The courts will do nothing.

I predicted this months ago when they said millions of new notices would go out weeks before the 2014 elections. Yeah right.


4 posted on 03/04/2014 6:44:52 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: dforest

The insurance companies and employers have most likely already done away with those plans, or have already gone a long way down the road towards eliminating them.

They will not want to reverse that course now.


5 posted on 03/04/2014 6:48:23 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Qwackertoo
"And the GOPelite will do nothing. The courts will do nothing."

Ain't that the truth!

6 posted on 03/04/2014 6:50:48 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Qwackertoo

I think everyone of us here at FR knew this would happen. But or elite gope could not see it and plan an attack against it?


7 posted on 03/04/2014 6:50:54 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Lou L

“The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.”

-Abraham Lincoln


8 posted on 03/04/2014 6:51:28 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: cotton1706

KingHu$$ein, change and hope mastermind, aided and abetted by CONgre$$ and U$$C.

Separation of powers? Not so much. Zero degrees of separation between triangulating totalitarians.

“Charter of negative liberties” BUMP!


9 posted on 03/04/2014 6:54:49 AM PST by PGalt
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To: cotton1706

I keep seeing a lot of commercials advertizing great medical and dental services on TV. What are they thinking, who can afford the ins. that will cover these procedures?


10 posted on 03/04/2014 6:55:14 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Qwackertoo
And the GOPelite will do nothing. The courts will do nothing. I predicted this months ago when they said millions of new notices would go out weeks before the 2014 elections. Yeah right.

Obama has once again put the GOP between the horns of a dilemma. What can they do? If they oppose his unconstitutional act they look like they are "FOR" Obamacare. If they don't do anything it looks like they acquiesce to his dictatorial behavior. Give Obama credit at least for being a smart Chicago style politician.

11 posted on 03/04/2014 6:56:23 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: cotton1706

You can see why the IRS needed those additional 15,000 attorneys and accountants.

There is a major rules re-write every week.

The Obamacare “amoeba” law.


12 posted on 03/04/2014 6:57:17 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: cotton1706
So now we're back to if you like your plan you can keep it?? "cept they've already been cancelled, revised and reissued....and a bazillion people are so scr****.

The non payers will always be non payers...cuz they don't work or have 6 kids with 5 daddies...etc etc

13 posted on 03/04/2014 6:59:19 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: nascarnation

ObamaCare has simply been EVOLVING.

What began as a single cell animal is now an entire village of Cro Magnons.


14 posted on 03/04/2014 7:01:16 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (Jesus came to Save not Entertain / Ground John Kerry Now!)
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To: cotton1706

I have an individual plan that has been grandfathered until the end of 2014. Researching these guys... http://www.chministries.org/ I think this is likely where I end up someday.


15 posted on 03/04/2014 7:02:40 AM PST by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: cotton1706

No surprise.

That is similar to what they did with Medicare Advantage. They were going to drop it just before the 2012 election, but got so much flack from the Gray Panthers that they extended it through the election into 2013.


16 posted on 03/04/2014 7:03:45 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Alas Babylon!; All
“The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.”

-Abraham Lincoln

Above all, if you wish to be strong, begin by rooting out every particle of socialism that may have crept into your legislation.

Frederic Bastiat

17 posted on 03/04/2014 7:04:29 AM PST by PGalt
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To: All
Dems are saddled w/ a huge paper trail of false "keep it" promises and are frantic to restore affordable plans (canceled by their historic party-line votes for the O/Care edict).

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JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO DEMOCRATS: You can't undo ALL of the O/Care collateral damage you created.

(1) throwing Americans off affordable health plans,

(2) burdening Americans w/ ruinous deductibles,

(3) nationalizing 1/6 of the US economy,

(4) abandoning the elderly and the chronically ill,

(5) empowering IPAB's (Death Panels),

(6) decimating intergenerational transfers of wealth,

(7) pulling $750 MILLION out of Medicare,

(8) drug rationing for seniors,

(9) new taxes on medical devices........and so on.

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INCONVENIENT FACTOID

<><> Sen Mike Enzi (R-Wyo) introed a bill in 2010 to allow Americans to keep their plans----E-V-E-R-Y Democrat voted against it.

<><> The Republican-controlled house has passed over 30 different bills amending or replacing O/Care. Sen Harry Reid is the Democrat roadblock who allows O/Care to stand untouched. No bills to change it are allowed before the Senate.

18 posted on 03/04/2014 7:07:59 AM PST by Liz
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To: Sacajaweau

The GOP leadership will business as usual it until 4 weeks before the election...at that point they will make a token effort to let the low info voters know Obama care is bad. At no time will we hear the foiled opposition frame the matter in such a way as to ask ‘why do you think Obama is delaying this thing?’.


19 posted on 03/04/2014 7:08:17 AM PST by dogcaller
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To: cotton1706

“The minions in the executive agencies must all be scrambling lately! “

I’m in the Executive recruiting business and it is a HUGE road block for the future of the industry without a doubt. Candidates will stay wedged in their dead end job without question. Do you think some guys wife will let her husband jump ship for $15k in salary and promotion when it will cost their family nearly that much for a crap plan?

The ramifications are ugly. Loss of income from both the candidate side and the recruiting industry side. Thank you Omoron!


20 posted on 03/04/2014 7:11:12 AM PST by oust the louse (The Democratic Party might as well be called the Death Party. Abortion & ObamaCare/death panels.)
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To: cotton1706

Has anyone kept a list of all the delays?


21 posted on 03/04/2014 7:13:51 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Don Corleone
STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE : In 2009, retiring Arkansas Rep. Marion Berry presciently warned that ObamaCare was setting up Democrats for a huge 2010 midterm defeat; just as “HillaryCare” led to Democrat loss of 54 House seats in 1994.

Obama scoffed at such concerns; he told Berry, “Well, the big difference here is you’ve got me.”

SO MUCH FOR O'S EGOTISM 2010 Republicans went on to win 63 House seats and six Senate seats.....the largest swing to Repubs in the House since 1938.

So Obama was right---the difference was him. ROTFL.

On to 2014.

22 posted on 03/04/2014 7:13:57 AM PST by Liz
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To: cotton1706

Republicans should be demanding they implement this thing fully BEFORE the next elections


23 posted on 03/04/2014 7:13:58 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: cotton1706

So much for that phrase Nero liked to use last fall when they were debating funding the plan...

“it’s settled law, approved by congress, Signed by me and decided by the courts.”


24 posted on 03/04/2014 7:16:08 AM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: cotton1706

How do you become Amish? They are exempt from Obamacare...

(also muslims are exempt)


25 posted on 03/04/2014 7:19:02 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yep. The certainly earn the name Stupid Party. But yet they’ll attack our own Ted Cruz. They make me sick.


26 posted on 03/04/2014 7:37:04 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: cotton1706
The problem with this is that the insurance companies scrapped all their old plans, to create plans that were compliant with the law.

It takes at least 6-8 months to come up with the new plans AND have them approved, by the state and federal oversight groups.

A broker told me this when we went to shop small group insurance for our company's renewal.

The old policies are gone. The insurance companies no longer have the plans that we all liked, gone, poof, like a breath on the wind... hell the plans are Keyser Soze.

27 posted on 03/04/2014 7:37:52 AM PST by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: dforest

“Seems like this is unconstitutional.”
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Yes it does, now please list all the recent government actions that DO NOT violate the constitution, please. I mean for real, not just things that some jackass court decision allowed. I have read the constitution and I am convinced that a strict reading of it would put an end to ninety percent of what the federal government does in this country. To claim, as the courts do, that all of this meets the test is to say that the founders spent months working out a constitution and then threw in a couple of catchall phrases that amount to, “Oh, hell, this is too much trouble, forget all the rest of it and just do whatever you can get away with.”


28 posted on 03/04/2014 7:39:51 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: kjam22

I heard about this one on the radio a couple of weeks back, it’s very similar.

http://www.libertyhealthshare.org/

I’m leaning toward it, should my company choose not to renew.


29 posted on 03/04/2014 7:50:46 AM PST by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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To: cotton1706

“The Democrats would not expect organizations engaged in any other activities to properly function under a regime where they knew that they would be hammered, just not when: why do they expect businesses to operate differently?...”


They don’t. They just don’t care if businesses get hammered if it helps them politically.


30 posted on 03/04/2014 7:58:25 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: cotton1706

the last king that jerked the American people around the way obozo is now jerking us around was king George of England. Clear call for a repeat of history.


31 posted on 03/04/2014 7:58:41 AM PST by drypowder
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To: Red_Devil 232

They are in on the game. The GOPe is perfectly fine with Obamacare as long as they hold the reins.


32 posted on 03/04/2014 7:59:39 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Don Corleone

Well actually, they should start putting out many TV ads and radio ads about the deception of the dems.


33 posted on 03/04/2014 8:05:04 AM PST by dforest
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To: PoloSec
"The courts will do nothing."

"You don't have standing." Imagine if they applied this to murder, and removed the concept of 'attempted murder'.

34 posted on 03/04/2014 8:57:10 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon (center)
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To: cotton1706

Obama FORCES Obamacare law (Affordable Care Act) down our throats, without ONE Republican vote. NOW he keeps delaying its implementation.

You got exactly what you wanted and NOW you defy the constitution, by unilaterally changing the law you wanted.

Will our country survive this imbecile?


35 posted on 03/04/2014 9:04:29 AM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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