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Rand Paul seeks Kentucky law to run for president, Senate at same time
Washington Times ^ | 03/04/2014 | By Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 03/04/2014 8:18:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Opening a door to hedge his political bets, Sen. Rand Paul has asked the leader of the Kentucky Senate for legislation to ensure that Mr. Paul can run both for the White House and for re-election to the U.S. Senate in 2016, The Washington Times has learned.

“Yes, I am working on clarifying an ambiguous state law that Rand Paul believes is unconstitutional if it is interpreted to bar running for re-election to the Senate and for president at the same time,” Kentucky Senate Majority Leader Damon Thayer told The Times on Monday.

“The purpose of the bill will be to make clear that Rand Paul or anyone in a similar situation in Kentucky can run for both offices in the same year,” Mr. Thayer explained. If things go Mr. Paul’s way, he could win the GOP presidential nomination, then run in the fall 2016 general election for the presidency and to retain his U.S. Senate seat. If he wins the presidency and the Senate re-election bid, he would relinquish his Senate seat.

If he loses the presidential election but wins the Senate re-election race, he would become a second-term U.S. senator from Kentucky.

Since winning his election in 2010, Mr. Paul has argued for creating term limits so members of Congress could serve a maximum of 12 years in each chamber.

Mr. Paul and his office did not immediately respond to requests for comment Monday. But in a recent C-SPAN “Newsmakers” program, Mr. Paul said he and his team were looking at the possibility of running for the Senate and the White House simultaneously.

“We just haven’t come to a conclusion yet,” he said at the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: cino; diabn; kentucky; potus; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls; senate; tpino
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1 posted on 03/04/2014 8:18:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No, one or the other.


2 posted on 03/04/2014 8:21:00 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Paul Ryan ran for Vice President AND Congress at the same time, losing the former but winning the latter.


3 posted on 03/04/2014 8:22:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Shamnesty Paul is a bridge to nowhere.


4 posted on 03/04/2014 8:25:54 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: VRWC For Truth
Shamnesty Paul is a bridge to nowhere.

Yep, he should save himself the trouble.

5 posted on 03/04/2014 8:27:29 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Agreed. Go all in or go home.


6 posted on 03/04/2014 8:28:45 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Since winning his election in 2010, Mr. Paul has argued for creating term limits so members of Congress could serve a maximum of 12 years in each chamber.

The US desperately needs term limits. But 24 years is way too long.

I could vote for 12 years total.

Actually, truth be told, I hope someday we whittle down the fedgov to the point that legislating becomes a part time job with most of that time spent telecommuting from home. Trips to DC would be few.

Let's swing the pendulum from the fedgov to the states.

7 posted on 03/04/2014 8:29:10 AM PST by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It worked well for Kentucky for centuries. Why should he get special treatment?


8 posted on 03/04/2014 8:29:47 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can we please quit with the “3rd Party - teach ‘em a lesson” approach to National Suicide?!?!?!

Just nominate a CONSERVATIVE and then everybody get behind them!!!

3rd Party tantrums only serve to accelerate the road to America’s destruction.


9 posted on 03/04/2014 8:30:35 AM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Paul Ryan ran for Vice President AND Congress at the same time, losing the former but winning the latter.

And look at the disaster he turned out. It would have better for him to slither away after losing the VP election. He would not have screwed over conservatives and Vets.


10 posted on 03/04/2014 8:30:49 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

To all you Freepers thinking about voting for Paul in the primary. If he wins the nomination, I won’t vote for him. Two reasons: Chuck Hagel and John Kerry.


11 posted on 03/04/2014 8:34:33 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: G Larry

“3rd Party tantrums only serve to accelerate the road to America’s destruction.”

And what has the 2 party system given us?


12 posted on 03/04/2014 8:36:37 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Repeal the 17th Amendment to the US Constitution; then there’ll be no need to “run” for the Senate.


13 posted on 03/04/2014 8:39:12 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: demshateGod

Our problem is the Republicans have the financial backing and the Tea Party has the enthusiasm.

Dems win because they combine the financial power of crony capitalists with the voting power of the entitlement army.

I’m not sure how we ever get past this.


14 posted on 03/04/2014 8:41:00 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now I know he is a jerk. Too many McCainiacs in the Republican Party.


15 posted on 03/04/2014 8:42:11 AM PST by Hattie
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To: nascarnation

I’ve been wonder if we’re crazy for thinking 2014 will be anything other than a huge sweep for the Rats. The Rats and the media want it really bad so they’ll cheat to get it, and the Republican party is a disaster. If Cornyn loses, look for active GOP support for the Rat. Then what’s going to happen when Establishment guys win other primaries? I’m not voting for Pat Roberts. My guess is others won’t either. The same thing will happen all over the country. Boner, Cantor, Ryan, if these guys get tough Rat opponents I see them going down. I predict a Demonrat route.


16 posted on 03/04/2014 8:51:35 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

DO NOT TRUST RAND PAUL!


17 posted on 03/04/2014 8:51:57 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t have a problem with this. Laws vary from state to state.


18 posted on 03/04/2014 9:03:39 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: SeekAndFind

Holy cr@p! Can you think of a more effective way to show a lack of confidence in yourself!!?

“I’m a long shot for Prez so I’d better hedge my bets so I can at least stay in elected office.”

Rand Paul’s feet of iron mixed with clay are really on display this time.


19 posted on 03/04/2014 9:18:20 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: demshateGod
To all you Freepers thinking about voting for Paul in the primary. If he wins the nomination, I won’t vote for him. Two reasons: Chuck Hagel and John Kerry.

I am not a Paul supporter, I prefer Ted Cruz but this logic is what gave us Obama's second term. As bad as Romney was, (and he was awful) he was a million times better than this communist agitator who hates America and is destroying the Constitution every day.

Even while this "Ukraine Crisis" is occurring Obama's EPA is pushing more crap behind Congress, Holder is attacking the 2nd Amendment without Congress.

I hate Amnesty pushers just as much as any other FReeper, I DESPISE RINOS, but I don't think one person on this forum with a brain could state this country would be better with either McShame or Romney as opposed to Obama...

Many times in life you are stuck with picking the best of two losers, sadly America chose destruction, I pray that the GOP gets it together by 2016 and we elect solid Conservatives.

20 posted on 03/04/2014 9:20:45 AM PST by hockeyfan44 (No more RINOS!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Paul Ryan ran for Vice President AND Congress at the same time, losing the former but winning the latter.

Lieberman ran for veep and Senate. So did LBJ. But it's a bit different for the top spot.

21 posted on 03/04/2014 9:33:04 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: hockeyfan44

I am absolutely done voting for people like Rand Paul. It’s not just amnesty, it’s his complete lack of understanding about who Obama is. Cruz and Mike Lee understand. I would vote for them. Romney may have been better for the economy, in the short term, but we’d still be on a horrible path.

I know you’re not haranguing me, but others will. And they can do it all they want. They want my vote, nominate a conservative who understands what’s going on.


22 posted on 03/04/2014 9:35:07 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

3rd Party candidates who give Dems the victory.


23 posted on 03/04/2014 9:45:03 AM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thoroughly disagree. I want my candidate all in...go for broke.


24 posted on 03/04/2014 10:02:28 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SeekAndFind

kinda like trying to ride two horses at the same time, ain’t it ?


25 posted on 03/04/2014 10:21:09 AM PST by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: G Larry

The trolls from the WH want to see Conservatives fighting one another. They try to foment bad feeling on blogs like FR.

Let’s not be duped by the DUmmies....


26 posted on 03/04/2014 10:24:13 AM PST by pfony1 (Add just 6 GOP Senators and we "bury" Harry)
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To: upchuck

Yep, 12 years max. For example, if I, NCC-1701, were to run for political office, I would go in KNOWING that, should I win, the 12 year countdown clock would begin. I could run six times for a house seat or two times for the senate. Or any combination that maxes out at 12 years. After that time, I could NO LONGER run again. Not lay off for a cycle or two the run again. My time would be up. No more elections to those two offices. Is that clear enough?


27 posted on 03/04/2014 10:29:17 AM PST by NCC-1701 (I am proud of what America USED TO BE.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Why? Please don’t say because its not fair. :-)


28 posted on 03/04/2014 10:46:10 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Pollster1

“Agreed. Go all in or go home”

Yeh lets get rid of Rand and get a Democrat in that senate seat. Yeh that makes sense.


29 posted on 03/04/2014 10:48:23 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Scoundrel-ish, law or not. That’s one of those things you just don’t do. It’s public office, not a game of cards.


30 posted on 03/04/2014 10:49:57 AM PST by Moose Burger
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You cannot serve two masters. Run for the office you want. Sounds like he just wants to guarantee he can stay in “office” if he loses one. It would be terrible to have to get a job again.


31 posted on 03/04/2014 10:55:45 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

I told you not to say it wouldn’t be fair. :-)


32 posted on 03/04/2014 11:00:03 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can’t stand Paul, and this just makes him the worst.


33 posted on 03/04/2014 11:05:05 AM PST by Revel
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t worry about it too much, Rand. You ensured the folks most likely to vote for you for President hate your guts because you love Chinless McConnell.


34 posted on 03/04/2014 11:10:21 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: G Larry

The only person I saw talking about third parties is...you.


35 posted on 03/04/2014 11:12:24 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Resolute Conservative
No, one or the other.

So...a senator should resign if he runs for POTUS? That would be fine with me but...

The rules need to be consistent. Why should McCain be able to run for POTUS as Senator but Paul has to choose just because his term ends in a Presidential year election?

36 posted on 03/04/2014 11:12:59 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

That’s because I recognize that’s the only path Rand can take.

He certainly won’t be the GOP nominee!


37 posted on 03/04/2014 11:19:37 AM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: G Larry

Agreed. So, he won’t do third party, he doesn’t want to throw away his sinecure. Those Senate perks are pretty nice.


38 posted on 03/04/2014 11:23:47 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SeekAndFind

If this guy gets loose in the exec. branch we r in trouble.
I say have Paul lead the national leadership of the ACLU or be the next Governor of California.


39 posted on 03/04/2014 11:46:16 AM PST by magna carta
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To: SeekAndFind

I will not vote for him


40 posted on 03/04/2014 11:56:55 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: kingattax
kinda like trying to ride two horses at the same time, ain’t it ?

It's been done many times before...

41 posted on 03/04/2014 11:57:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: novemberslady

RE: I will not vote for him

What if it came down to Hillary vs Rand Paul?


42 posted on 03/04/2014 11:57:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: DuncanWaring

“Repeal the 17th Amendment to the US Constitution; then there’ll be no need to “run” for the Senate.”


Yes, we can trust state representatives not to send politicians to the Senate. God forbid that *voters* get to decide who to elect.

Without a 17th Amendment, Dewhurst would have been elected to the Senate from Texas in 2012 without breaking a sweat and Ted Cruz would be trying to get elected Attorney General of Texas right now.

And remember how the GOP won a net 6 Senate seats in 2010, including electing several Tea Party favorites? That would have never happened without a 17th Amendment:

Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin? No way that the then-Democrat legislature would have elected him or any Republican over their precious ultraliberal Russ Feingold.

Senator Mike Lee from Utah? Sorry, Bob Bennett would have been reelected in a landslide without a 17th Amendment.

Senator Marco Rubio from Florida? Nope, liberal Governor Charlie Crist (who has since officially become a Democrat) would have been elected in a walk.

Senator Toomey from Pennsylvania? Inconceivable, since the PA Legislature would have elected either a Democrat or a RINO.

Republican Senators Burr, Portman, Ayotte, Boozman and Grassley being elected in NC, OH, NH, AR and IA, respectively? Sorry, the Democrat legislatures would have elected Democrats in all five states.

And remember how Senate President Harry Reid was strongly challenged in the general election (we would have beaten him, too, had Sharron Angle not been such an idiot)? Well, not only would Reid have coasted to reelection (Democrat majorities in both houses of the NV legislature would have guaranteed it), but on election night he would have celebrated how the Democrats expanded their majority in the U.S. Senate.

So my reaction to proposals to repeal the 17th Amendment and permit state legislatures to elect U.S. Senators is the following: over my dead body.


43 posted on 03/04/2014 11:58:03 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: SeekAndFind
If that happens
I'll pick someone else.
44 posted on 03/04/2014 11:59:02 AM PST by novemberslady
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Perhaps I’ll just write in Mitt Romney or John McCain or Ross Perot...


45 posted on 03/04/2014 12:04:01 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Then why not get rid of the Senate entirely?

It’s just a more expensive version of the House.


46 posted on 03/04/2014 12:05:48 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: demshateGod

Totally agree with what you said. That’s why I hope Cruz indeeds runs he has my vote. Can’t wait for the “white hispanic” comments from the left!


47 posted on 03/04/2014 12:20:28 PM PST by hockeyfan44 (No more RINOS!!!)
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To: lonestar

I am to the point I don’t care anymore really. I just goads me there are always in election/re-election mode. Maybe we should have laws they can only campaign 6 weeks prior to a primary and 3 months before a general.


48 posted on 03/04/2014 12:36:44 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: novemberslady

RE: If that happens
I’ll pick someone else.

I remember many conservatives doing the same thing in 2012. The result — a second term for Obama.


49 posted on 03/04/2014 12:42:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: DuncanWaring

Because allowing legislation to be approved by a single house is far more dangerous to liberty than requiring that it pass two separate houses (Washington’s admonition to Jefferson still holds true today).

And because in the U.S. Senate (i) members are elected statewide (so politicians can’t gerrymander to gain advantage) and (ii) each state has equal suffrage, so California can’t overpower the rest of the states as its population increases.

Having state legislatures elect Senators is not what made the Senate necessary or special at the Founding. Perhaps if state legislators were true representatives of thinking voters it would be acceptable for them to elect U.S. Senators, but that clearly is not the case nowadays. After you fix state legislators so that they act as representatives and not as politicians, come back to me with the proposal to have them elect U.S. Senators, and I promise that I would consider it.


50 posted on 03/04/2014 12:45:25 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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