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Rand Paul seeks Kentucky law to run for president, Senate at same time
Washington Times ^ | 03/04/2014 | By Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 03/04/2014 8:18:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Here we go again. Dozens of republicans running for the same office and we wind up with the same crappy one getting picked to run by the GOP Elite.


51 posted on 03/04/2014 1:32:45 PM PST by macglencoe (You see what the left hand is doing, but you should be watching the right hand.)
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To: NCC-1701

That is exactly what I have in mind. 12 years should be more than enough time to influence the direction of the country. But hopefully not enough time to build a money sucking network.


52 posted on 03/04/2014 3:16:56 PM PST by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

I am really sick of seeing every “Repeal the 17th”er say “Well why even have a Senate then????”. (I imagine hearing this in whiny kid’s voice).

Ignoring the obvious fact that each State having the same number of Senators was in fact the whole point of creating the body and was always by far a more important distinction with the House than the manner of election.

Tools.


53 posted on 03/04/2014 3:26:52 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

Oh and Rand can GTH. What a *ick move this is.


54 posted on 03/04/2014 3:29:03 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: SeekAndFind; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ..

> If things go Mr. Paul’s way, he could win the GOP presidential nomination, then run in the fall 2016 general election for the presidency and to retain his U.S. Senate seat. If he wins the presidency and the Senate re-election bid, he would relinquish his Senate seat.

And if he takes out some aromatherapy crystals, chops them up, and snorts them, he’ll wake up in a bathtub on Mars.


55 posted on 03/04/2014 4:04:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind
I remember many conservatives doing the same thing in 2012. The result — a second term for Obama.

Sorry but conservatives aren't to blame for that thing in the white hut.
Your argument is a repeat of a dirty trick played on our country.

At this point Putin seems more conservative to me, than a Libertarian in a Republican suit.
56 posted on 03/04/2014 4:13:08 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: Impy

They also like to pretend that since both houses are popularly elected, they represent the “same interests”, as if the constituents of a house seat were the same demographically as the whole state.

Of course, back in the real world, I doubt we’ll be seeing “Senator Shelia Jackson-Lee of Texas”, or “Congressman Jeff Sessions” elected in Alabama’s 7th District.


57 posted on 03/04/2014 4:29:17 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That would be crazy because what happens if the candidate wins both. That makes a mockery of the election.


58 posted on 03/04/2014 4:32:32 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican

And the most annoying talking point from them:

“If your state legislature is corrupt and liberal, MOVE!! It’s not my fault you choose to live in a socialist Democrat state. Over in MY state, conservatives run both houses of the legislature.... blah blah blah”

The argument can be throw right back at them. If they’re so convinced that “our Republic was destroyed” by a popularly elected U.S. Senate, and can’t stand the Senate we have, they are free to move up north to Canada. Our neighbors are stuck with a 100% government appointed Senate, which the Canadians hate and wish they could get rid of. The anti-17thers ought to move there and experience the utopia of government-appointed hacks that the people have no say over. Since they believe in the cause so strongly, they can set an example and show the Canadians how much better they have it than our rotten elected Senators that the politicians would have never appointed, like Ted Cruz.


59 posted on 03/04/2014 4:41:29 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican
>> Oh and Rand can GTH. What a *ick move this is. <<

Agreed on that. I'm tired of these politicians hedging their bets and trying to have it both ways. If your term is up when you want to seek another office, too bad. You should have the b@lls to decide whether you want to seek re-election to the current job OR try for a new one. You shouldn't be allowed to have your cake and eat it too, so your old job is "safe" in the event you don't win a new one.

I'll say one thing for Bob Dole: he did the right thing in 1996 when he opted to resign his Senate seat after winning the GOP nomination for President, and cited the fact he couldn't represent his constituents in Kansas when he was running for President full time. It's a shame nobody else has followed his lead. LIEberman and Paul Ryan shouldn't have been allowed to run for veep and re-election to Congress at the same time, and McCain should have had the dignity to step down from the Senate after he was the GOP nominee for President.

Thankfully Rand Paul's state doesn't seen to have a loophole to let him run for two offices at once. Not only shouldn't they change the rules for him, they should follow KY's lead in the other 49 states and end this nonsense of being on the ballot for two offices during the same election.

60 posted on 03/04/2014 4:58:35 PM PST by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Resolute Conservative
It irks me that they run for office while being paid. I think you're generous with your limits on campaigning for incumbents.

All they do is raise money after elected. Challengers should be given more time to raise money.

61 posted on 03/04/2014 6:22:03 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: elcid1970

Can you think of a more effective way to show a lack of confidence in yourself!!?

“I’m a long shot for Prez so I’d better hedge my bets so I can at least stay in elected office.”
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My take as well. Also...I find it annoying that these pol’s run for an office and then quit before their term is up...costing the states lots of extra $$$ to run special elections.

Get in or get out. I wouldn’t want to waste my vote on some pol who is either selfish (taking a spot of another conservative) or a jelly belly who has no faith he/she will get elected to the ‘higher’ office.

Well..also...no freaking way I’m going to vote for Rand...but that’s beside the point. :)


62 posted on 03/04/2014 6:24:02 PM PST by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

A politician who wants his cake and eat it, too. Color me shocked...zzzzz.

Seriously, if I made it to the Senate, I wouldn’t want any other gig. All that power and all those perks—and hundreds of other people in both houses to blame your failures on. Just another face in the crowd. Who happens to be a sitting Senator.

It’s no wonder that McCain fought harder to keep his Senate seat than he did for the White House. Bet ol’ Hillary is wishing for those halcyon, carefree days of yore as the junior Senator from New York!


63 posted on 03/05/2014 2:17:33 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The horses don’t look too thrilled, either.


64 posted on 03/05/2014 2:23:47 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Shamnesty Paul is a bridge to nowhere.

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Good one.


65 posted on 03/05/2014 5:51:42 AM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: G Larry

Is that you, Karl Tokyo Rove?


66 posted on 03/05/2014 5:53:44 AM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Bushbacker1

DO NOT TRUST RAND PAUL!

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Needs repeating.


67 posted on 03/05/2014 5:55:40 AM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: demshateGod

They want my vote, nominate a conservative who understands what’s going on.

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Ditto.


68 posted on 03/05/2014 5:58:20 AM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: novemberslady

Same here. I will write in Sarah Palin or Ted Cruz.

Done with picking the lesser of two evils.


69 posted on 03/05/2014 6:03:07 AM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, well. My vote for Romney was my last RINO vote.


70 posted on 03/05/2014 6:05:56 AM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: upchuck

While I generally agree that we need term limits (and 12 years is about right), a large part of our problem is the 4th branch of government, the Bureaucracy. It is difficult for a newbie elected official to prevail in any meaningful way against entrenched member of the Bureaucracy.

We need a better solution there, too.


71 posted on 03/05/2014 6:06:58 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Bigg Red

“Just nominate a CONSERVATIVE”

Does that sound like Rove, you clown?


72 posted on 03/05/2014 6:51:10 AM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: demshateGod

Paul is going after NSA and complaining about the Patriot Act yet he endorsed McConnell? McConnell will be to Rand Paul what Arlen Spector was to Santorum.
“AND another big issue with Libertarians is NSA...In August 2007 McConnell introduced the Protect America Act of 2007, which allowed the National Security Agency to monitor telephone and electronic communications of suspected terrorists outside the United States without obtaining a warrant.” Rand is playing politics to win and his endorsement of Hagel, Kerry, McConnell send up red flags.


73 posted on 03/05/2014 8:26:44 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: G Larry

I was making a joke. Sorry if I offended you.


74 posted on 03/05/2014 9:43:28 AM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Bigg Red

oh...not offended...

Your post was of a type I frequently receive here on FR.

Some folks here believe “Take my ball and go home” is an effective political strategy that has the potential for changing the hearts and minds of the GOPe.

That’s why I thought you were serious.

Some fail to recognize there is a time to fight and a time to stop the bleeding, lest the patient die on the table.


75 posted on 03/05/2014 9:55:51 AM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: G Larry

Well, I have cast my last vote for someone I know to be a RINO.


76 posted on 03/05/2014 11:59:23 AM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Bigg Red

Is RINO somebody that has an (R) behind their name, but doesn’t meet your 20 item checklist of what it means to be “Conservative”?


77 posted on 03/05/2014 12:43:09 PM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: G Larry

I do not know what I have said to make you claim that I have 20 items on my checklist.

The list is much shorter. My candidate can disagree with me about many issues, but I demand a candidate who demonstrates a belief in and a willingness to defend or uphold:

1) the Bill of Rights
2) the sovereignty of the USA

My point #2, of necessity eliminates from consideration any candidate who supports amnesty for illegal aliens and/or any candidate who does not have a plan to secure our borders.


78 posted on 03/05/2014 2:51:20 PM PST by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Bigg Red

Perfect!


79 posted on 03/05/2014 2:53:44 PM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; NFHale; Clintonfatigued

Some clown in PA is running in the rat primaries for CD 4 AND CD 11.

http://www.politicspa.com/pa-411-rev-micah-sims-running-for-both-seats/55829/


80 posted on 03/08/2014 1:58:29 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

I see he’s doing that since Harrisburg is in both districts. However, I can’t see him being allowed to do so, since most states frown upon filing for multiple federal offices at the same time and will have to choose one or the other (neither of which has a chance of electing him).


81 posted on 03/08/2014 2:07:05 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: upchuck
Actually, truth be told, I hope someday we whittle down the fedgov to the point that legislating becomes a part time job with most of that time spent telecommuting from home. Trips to DC would be few.

I remember an American History teacher opining once that the Founding Fathers probably chose the location of Washington DC to encourage that. At the time, it was a low-lying, swampy area that was miserably hot in the summer with lots of mosquitoes and black flies. Who'd want to stick around all year long?

Unfortunately, we improved insect control and invented air conditioning.

82 posted on 03/08/2014 2:20:57 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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