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Kerry condemns Russian moves in Crimea while Putin stays defiant
CNN ^ | March 4, 2014 | By Laura Smith-Spark. Diana Magnay and Phil Black

Posted on 03/04/2014 9:27:31 AM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Graewoulf

Why not cut out the middle man and send the $1 Billion direct to Moscow?


51 posted on 03/04/2014 10:35:24 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Grampa Dave

“...Thanks for the good news below:...”

Brother, we look at the bright side of things wherever we can!!!

The “American Spring” is coming soon, but it’s in November.


52 posted on 03/04/2014 10:35:43 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: First_Salute

The Germans are “HELL NO!” to sanctions. They gave up coal powered Electric plants for ones powered by Russian Natural Gas.

Russia is a HUGE German Trade Partner, and any hiccup in gas supplies as retaliation could wreck the German Economy.

Putin is holding the cards here, and he knows it.


53 posted on 03/04/2014 10:41:15 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Kerry stomps his foot. “

Looks like his foot feel asleep...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9pc995SKNPIJ:live.america.aljazeera.com/Event/Ukraine_Crisis+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

“I come here today at the instruction of President Obama to make it absolutely clear that the United States would prefer to see this deescalated,” says Kerry. “If Russia does not choose to deescalate, then our partners will have absolutely no choice to to join us and to continue steps to isolate Russia politically, diplomatically, and economically. This is not something we seek to do. This is something Russia’s choices force us to do.”
by Jared Keller 10:39 AM

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/04/ukraine-crisis-shots-fired-crimea-airbase

Kerry: “I come here today at the instruction of President Obama to make it absolutely clear that the United States government would rather see this de-escalated. ...

“But if Russia does not choose to de-escalate... then our partners will have absolutely no choice but to join us” to expand on steps to isolate Russia politically and economically, Kerry says.


54 posted on 03/04/2014 10:43:48 AM PST by maggief
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To: b4its2late

LMAO...


55 posted on 03/04/2014 10:47:53 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: tcrlaf

Russia is a HUGE German Trade Partner, and any hiccup in gas supplies as retaliation could wreck the German Economy.

Putin is holding the cards here, and he knows it.


He’s only holding the cards because the EU gave them to him. This is short sighted greed from the Germans.

Russian rampant in eastern europe and the end of NATO will have a much bigger effect on the German economy. Germany is a non nuclear state. With no plausible NATO umbrella they can start learning Russian again. Putin won’t be stopping with Ukraine. Or the Baltics. Or Poland.


56 posted on 03/04/2014 10:54:08 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

“This is short sighted greed from the Germans.”

WTF are you talking about?
Germany has no oil and no gas of its own. It HAS to import it. Russia sells, Germany buys. That’s business.

The US have bought Communist Venezuela oil for years. Must one say : “This is short sighted greed from the Americans”?


57 posted on 03/04/2014 10:58:46 AM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: b4its2late

No, but he compared Putin to Genghis Khan.


58 posted on 03/04/2014 10:58:53 AM PST by skams19
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To: Jim Robinson

The KGB Colonel is doing the One a favor, imo. NO ONE is discussing 0bamaCare.


59 posted on 03/04/2014 11:02:43 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Jim Robinson

LMAO...that’s great.....lets do it!!!!


60 posted on 03/04/2014 11:04:43 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (Get the USA out of the UN then get the UN out of the USA; send bamaboy back to Kenya ASAP!!!!)
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To: Marguerite

Germany has no oil and no gas of its own. It HAS to import it. Russia sells, Germany buys. That’s business.

The US have bought Communist Venezuela oil for years. Must one say : “This is short sighted greed from the Americans”?


Would the US be buying Venezuelan oil if they invaded Panama and took over the canal? This shouldn’t be an issue in a civilized world. There are plenty of Russian owned assets in the EU/US to expropriate if Putin wants to play economic terrorist.

What else is for sale to Russia since “germany has no gas and oil”. The baltics? Poland? Those are NATO countries. Putin rolls tanks into them we have either a shooting war or the end of NATO. That’s where this is all headed. Don’t keep your head in the sand.


61 posted on 03/04/2014 11:12:52 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Jim Robinson; crosslink; hoosiermama; caww

Highly unconfirmed: Interfax have posted an unconfirmed report that Russia has test fired an IBCM -
Tweet from Alexander Marquardt of ABC: Russia just test fired an ICBM - Interfax http://www.interfax.ru/russia/362745

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/04/ukraine-crisis-shots-fired-crimea-airbase

less than 1m ago Russia test-fires ICBM - state news reports
Reuters picks up a report by state-run RIA quoting a Russian defense ministry spokesman as saying that Russia successfully test-fired an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM).

Reuters:

The Strategic Rocket Forces launched an RS-12M Topol missile from the southerly Astrakhan region near the Caspian Sea and the dummy warhead hit its target at a proving ground in Kazakhstan, the state-run news agency RIA cited Defence Ministry spokesman Igor Yegorov as saying.

The RIA report in Russian is here.


62 posted on 03/04/2014 11:13:04 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/04/russia-test-fires-intercontinental-balli-idUKL6N0M14IW20140304

RUSSIA TEST-FIRES INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE - RIA CITES DEFENCE MINISTRY
Tue Mar 4, 2014 6:54pm GMT

RUSSIA TEST-FIRES INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE - RIA CITES DEFENCE MINISTRY


63 posted on 03/04/2014 11:14:00 AM PST by maggief
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To: Jim Robinson

Not only is Putin taking bo’s lunch, he’s pantsing him at the school assembly and stealing his dope and kicking his butt on the walk home! Saddest thing about it is I have to respect and even admire Putin, I understand why he is doing it, he DOES have a certain level of justification, and am rather enjoying the whole spectacle, dangerous and degrading to the West as it is. Fact is, there is no leader on the world stage I hate and disrespect more than bo... ANYTHING to bring him down!!


64 posted on 03/04/2014 11:14:30 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: maggief

Oops. So much for Obama’s threats. Now what coach?


65 posted on 03/04/2014 11:19:42 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: maggief

RUSSIA TEST-FIRES INTERCONTINENTAL BALLISTIC MISSILE - RIA CITES DEFENCE MINISTRY


Putin is probing the EU/US and observing the (lack of) response.


66 posted on 03/04/2014 11:22:28 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

6 minutes ago BBC Live thread:
Reports say Russia has successfully test-fired an intercontinental ballistic missile from the southern Astrakhan region near the Caspian Sea.


67 posted on 03/04/2014 11:27:19 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

so testing our response, he leaves nothing to chance, do you still have the picture of the missiles he shipped in Sat to protect his troops. I think they were 400’s.

Crosslink


68 posted on 03/04/2014 11:31:23 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: All

And why does Russia remain defiant?

One word: History.

Especially its history with wannabe fascist dictators.

World War Two: Germany invades Russia 1941:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIqINNdqvCU


69 posted on 03/04/2014 11:47:21 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Donna Brazile on CNN just said this is BUSH’S FAULT!, and that Republicans should be ashamed of doing things that support Putin while Ukrainians are still in hospital, and need help.

THE FAKE OUTRAGE IS JUST DRIPPING....


70 posted on 03/04/2014 11:48:47 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tcrlaf

News pundits are no longer informed nor are journalists or reporters. They don’t know the history, nor the players and assume much to create the buzzz they seek to engage, and maintain engagement to their networks.

Brazile is clearly supporting BO ....and does not understand the dynamics between Russia and Ukraine. ..nor this (US) administrations involvement in assisting the outing of Ukraines elected President...and why and how it all came about..Again!


71 posted on 03/04/2014 12:39:55 PM PST by caww
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To: Jim Robinson

Did he tell Putin that he served in Viet Nam and has real battlefield experience?


72 posted on 03/04/2014 12:51:56 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“John Kerry accused Russia of making up reasons for intervention in Ukraine, saying Tuesday that “not a single piece of credible evidence supports any one of these claims.”

MOSCOW, March 3 (RAPSI) – Russian investigators have initiated a terrorism case against the leader of ultra-nationalist, far-right Ukrainian movement “Right Sector” Dmitry Yarosh, official Spokesman for the Investigative Committee Vladimir Markin told reporters Monday.

Earlier, Yarosh publicly appealed to North Caucasus militant commander Doku Umarov for help, in a statement made through Right Sector’s page on popular Russian social network VKontakte.

“The investigators believe that in his address, head of ultra-nationalist Ukrainian group Right Sector Dmitry Yarosh is making a public call to anti-Russian forces to engage in terrorist acts and extremism on Russian territory.”


On March 1, 2014, Dmytro Yarosh asked Dokka Umarov, a Chechen militant guerilla leader associated with Al-Qaeda, for support of Ukraine:

“Ukranian nation and nations of [Northern] Caucasus region have been united by mutual bloodshed. Many Ukranians supported a freedom fight of Chechen and other Caucausian nations with guns in their hands. Now is the time to support Ukraine!
As the leader of the “Right Sector”, I beg you to activate you fight. Russia is not as strong as it seems. You have a unique chance to win. Take it!”


73 posted on 03/04/2014 1:47:24 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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Dmytro Yarosh is the leader of the right-wing Stepan Bandera Treezoob organization. During the EuroMaidan protests in the early 2014, Treezoob became the core of the newly founded Right Sector, a coalition of right-wing ultra-nationalist radicals.

Dmytro Yarosh (L) during a rally in Maidan Square, Kiev February 21, 2014

Far-right group "Right Sector" train on Maïdan Square in central Kiev, January 25, 2014.

Well, Putin is rigt and Obummer with his horse Kerry are wrong. THERE WERE MILITIA ORGANIZED NAZI GROUPS in Kiev. Kerry must be farsighted, needs glasses to see them.

74 posted on 03/04/2014 2:01:55 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Jim Robinson

Stop, or we’ll send a strongly worded letter, written in crayon!


75 posted on 03/04/2014 2:37:08 PM PST by matt04
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To: Jim Robinson
What if the leftists commie held a bloody coup and nobody came?

Putin has already won with little violence or objection unless the newly installed government of Kiev takes the money (our tax dollars)that Kerry is offering as a "loan".

The people had better not take that money or the commies will have another play on the board that Putin will have to react to...

This is all about high stakes economic war and control of vital resources. The left would love for full blown war to break out...it's easier to spin to the masses.

76 posted on 03/04/2014 3:04:08 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Jim Robinson

- ….. of Genghis CON - John “Irish” Kerrystein

- …. talk loud and carry a tiny putter - Barack “Mom-Jeans” Hussein Obama Junior


77 posted on 03/04/2014 3:36:42 PM PST by devolve (- and so I face the vinyl curtain - I will still misspell the simplest words - I did it my whey)
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To: devolve

President Manuel Zelaya of Hondouras was ousted and Obama et al supported him after he was ousted.

Now when Ukraine ousts the president, Obama supports the new government

They are talking form both sides of their mouths. Putin has taken the Obama Honduras legal position and is flailing him about the head and shoulders


78 posted on 03/04/2014 3:43:32 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Neoliberalnot

- as he bravely shouts at Vlad Putin “bam bam” hussein obama (JUNIOR) only has a tiny putter in his Mom Jeans


79 posted on 03/04/2014 3:44:00 PM PST by devolve (- and so I face the vinyl curtain - I will still misspell the simplest words - I did it my whey)
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To: bert

- golf vaca time


80 posted on 03/04/2014 3:47:47 PM PST by devolve (- and so I face the vinyl curtain - I will still misspell the simplest words - I did it my whey)
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To: Jim Robinson

I read “Kerry condoms”in the title. Seriously.


81 posted on 03/04/2014 4:19:45 PM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (A Realistically Really Real Housewife)
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To: All

I heard Russia has a new tourism slogan. “COME VISIT RUSSIA OR WE WILL VISIT YOU”


82 posted on 03/04/2014 5:12:00 PM PST by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: ColdOne

http://www.alipac.us/f9/obama-israel-you-have-no-right-your-borders-obama-ukraine-you-have-every-298589/


83 posted on 03/04/2014 10:14:30 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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