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California Driverís License Program Hits an Unexpected Snag (Illegals don't trust govt)
NY Times ^ | 3/4/14 | IAN LOVETT

Posted on 03/04/2014 11:51:32 AM PST by Second Amendment First

BELL, Calif. — The auditorium was packed. There were single mothers, day laborers, grandparents pushing infants in strollers and teenagers interpreting for parents. All of them faced a potentially life-changing prospect: Within a year, California will start offering driver’s licenses to immigrants who are living in the country illegally.

But one person after another stepped to the microphone and expressed fear that the licenses, far from helping them, could instead be used to deport them.

Last year, when California became the most populous state to pass a law permitting undocumented residents to obtain driver’s licenses, advocates for immigrant rights were thrilled, saying it would allow people to commute without fear while also decreasing rates of hit-and-run accidents and uninsured drivers on the roads. Now those advocates are confronting another formidable obstacle: the deep and longstanding mistrust of the American government among this population.

It turns out that convincing immigrants who have spent decades avoiding the authorities to willingly hand over their names, addresses and photographs to the government is no easy sell — particularly since the licenses will look different from regular ones, in ways that have yet to be determined.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens

1 posted on 03/04/2014 11:51:32 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

Good one, California, good one. Driving illegals underground and into the dark. Making them feel like they can’t come into the light and be part of the population. Ya know, intimidating them and making them fear the authorities.


2 posted on 03/04/2014 11:54:13 AM PST by FAA
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To: Second Amendment First
Classic - government ‘unintended consequences.’
3 posted on 03/04/2014 11:54:59 AM PST by Quick Shot
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To: Second Amendment First

If illegals do not trust the Government, why should I? If the illegals trusted the Government, I would not trust them anyway (Gov or illegals)


4 posted on 03/04/2014 11:58:22 AM PST by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue., The Tea Party is the solvent)
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To: Second Amendment First

if it makes leftists feel better, we could just ask the crimaliens to register their guns.


5 posted on 03/04/2014 11:59:17 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Second Amendment First

(Illegals don’t trust govt) = SMART!


6 posted on 03/04/2014 12:02:22 PM PST by buffyt (The only person who is safe in a gun free area is THE MANIAC WITH A GUN!)
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To: Second Amendment First

They have been driving and working for years without a DL. Why pay for one now?


7 posted on 03/04/2014 12:03:21 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Second Amendment First

Just like Concealed Carry Permits!!


8 posted on 03/04/2014 12:03:37 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Second Amendment First

I’m sensing some schadenfreude!


9 posted on 03/04/2014 12:06:21 PM PST by Marko413
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To: Second Amendment First

They should have done what my parents did...immigrate legally from their home country. My parents never had to look over their shoulder or worry about being stopped by the police. My parents also took the time to learn English so that they weren’t lost in a new world. But I guess that’s the old fashioned way of doing things.


10 posted on 03/04/2014 12:09:19 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Wasn’t the lieberal’s mantra ‘the.illegals coming out from behind the shadows’? Ehehheheheh. Cuidado...hermano grande.


11 posted on 03/04/2014 12:10:27 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Second Amendment First

Why should an illegal alien in California get a drivers license? If they get pulled over by a cop on California the rule of the four no’s apply:

No drivers license
No registration
No insurance
No hay problema, hasta la vista amigo.


12 posted on 03/04/2014 12:13:37 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: Second Amendment First

Funny. I could tell you countless stories told to me within the past week by my buddy LAPD cop where they were at crash sites in Socal and they just let the mexiclowns walk, even as they are illegals.

The irony is that the illegals actually APPLYING for driver’s licenses when it’s better to have none and not pay insurance.


13 posted on 03/04/2014 12:18:03 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Second Amendment First

14 posted on 03/04/2014 12:27:25 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Second Amendment First
They fear driving licenses = gun registration.

Personally, I think gun owners have more to worry about...

15 posted on 03/04/2014 12:27:47 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Second Amendment First

Guess Cali will have to add a sweetener.

Any illegal who can show a new Calif diver’s license gets fellated by Jerry Brown on the steps of the Capitol.

This continues Gov Brown’s joint efforts w/ Obama to suckup everything in sight in order to get illegal votes for desperate Dems.


16 posted on 03/04/2014 12:29:32 PM PST by Liz
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To: Second Amendment First

Yes, registration = deportation.

I can believe that the illegals believe it, but the idea makes me laugh. Especially in California.


17 posted on 03/04/2014 12:36:16 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Tennessee Nana; AuntB; no-to-illegals; TADSLOS; Grampa Dave
......convincing illegals who have spent decades avoiding authorities wanting them to willingly hand over their names, addresses and photographs to the government is no easy sell....

Plus sophisticated computer mining programs can uncover the same illegal using multiple licenses under several identities----all collecting US govt freebies.

Yikes---the Cali economy would collapse......if and when illegals have to stop cashing multiple US govt chacks.

18 posted on 03/04/2014 12:36:49 PM PST by Liz
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To: Second Amendment First

Illegals don’t trust the government. Finally, something we agree on.


19 posted on 03/04/2014 12:38:17 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Why don’t illegals trust a fellow illegal (Soebarkah)?

They’ve got 1 stolen SSN, while ‘Obama’ has 7 stolen SSNs.

Would you trust a man with 7 stolen SSNs?


20 posted on 03/04/2014 12:43:47 PM PST by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Second Amendment First; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

21 posted on 03/04/2014 12:52:27 PM PST by HiJinx (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: forgotten man

You forgot the fifth one: no habla ingles. I think it goes in the fourth position in your list.


22 posted on 03/04/2014 12:53:42 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (Bear His image. Bring His message. Be the Church.)
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To: Second Amendment First

They see how the gov treats citizens and would rather stay in the shadows.


23 posted on 03/04/2014 12:56:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Would there be any benefit of other illegals stealing the cards off the good illegals.

Maybe an Illegal alien fugitive just waves one of these cards at law enforcement and the ICE agent doesn’t check their status.


24 posted on 03/04/2014 1:09:22 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: forgotten man

Se no puede. Muchos dineros por la estado California. Pony up illegals-—your master Lieberals in Sacto demand it.


25 posted on 03/04/2014 1:09:39 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Second Amendment First

Only in America can a criminal stand at a microphone in a goverment meeting in front of cameras and media and tell that goverment,”If I get this license you will use it to catch me”. Irony anyone?


26 posted on 03/04/2014 1:25:53 PM PST by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I’m surprised at this.
I assumed most illegals already have driver’s licenses and use them via motor voter to vote for Democrats.


27 posted on 03/04/2014 1:32:20 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I have always asked why the heck illegals would even want amnesty. Who would willingly sign up to be tracked by the government, pay taxes, and submit to obligations of citizens? They get free medical care, welfare, and any number of handouts already?


28 posted on 03/04/2014 1:52:47 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: AlaskaErik
........immigrate legally from their home country. My parents never had to look over their shoulder or worry about being stopped by the police. My parents also took the time to learn English so that they weren’t lost in a new world.

º¡Lo siento mucho, FReepadero, mas evidente que sus padres eran racistas!

29 posted on 03/04/2014 2:04:24 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Don't let the aftershave and embalming fluid fool you. Many RINOs are actually dead meat.)
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To: nascarnation
I assumed most illegals already have driver’s licenses and use them via motor voter to vote for Democrats.

in this neck of the woods, they have 3 0r 4 of em....along with a bundle of matching snap cards...

30 posted on 03/04/2014 2:05:01 PM PST by sternup
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To: FAA

They’re safe as long as they are not caught voting Republican.


31 posted on 03/04/2014 2:07:26 PM PST by uncitizen (Impeach the Communist Already!)
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To: FAA

What is your suggestion to California then?


32 posted on 03/04/2014 2:29:09 PM PST by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: max americana

What happens to an American in the same situation?


33 posted on 03/04/2014 2:29:54 PM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Prince of Space

jail time for gringo


34 posted on 03/04/2014 3:00:13 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: HiJinx

Thanks for the ping.


35 posted on 03/04/2014 8:10:23 PM PST by GOPJ ("Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), always currying favor with the press...."(nailed) - William Bigelow)
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To: HiJinx

The are learning. . .because; indeed; they should not.


36 posted on 03/15/2014 5:24:16 PM PDT by cricket
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