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[CT] Gun-grabbing cop goes ballistic: 'I'm the master!'
WND ^ | 3/4/14 | Alex Newman

Posted on 03/04/2014 2:46:41 PM PST by ModernDayCato

A citizen’s phone call to Connecticut state police about a letter ordering gun owners to dispose of their unregistered so-called “assault” weapons and standard-capacity magazines is sending shockwaves through the national gun-rights community after being recorded and posted online.

The heated phone conversation over the document took place amid rapidly escalating tensions between gun owners and state authorities determined to impose more gun control on Connecticut residents. In the recording, state police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance – who did not know he was being recorded and told WND it was illegal to do so – can be heard telling the woman that anyone who refuses to dispose of their newly banned firearms in accordance with official instructions could face felony arrest.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; confrontationwatch; connecticut; donutwatch; feos; guns; paulvance; statepolice; vance
Listen to the audio. It's priceless.
1 posted on 03/04/2014 2:46:42 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: ModernDayCato

The nazis are not yet fully comfortable operating in the daylight. Just give them three more years and they will be.


2 posted on 03/04/2014 2:50:21 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

 

There are over 100,000 gun owners with over 350,000 weapons in Connecticut. Pretty sure there aren't nearly enough bull dykes to grab them all.

3 posted on 03/04/2014 2:55:39 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: ModernDayCato

“who did not know he was being recorded and told WND it was illegal to do so”

Gee I wonder why it is illegal.... oh most certainly to protect the serfs./////s


4 posted on 03/04/2014 2:55:57 PM PST by GraceG
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To: ModernDayCato

Bump


5 posted on 03/04/2014 2:57:08 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: ModernDayCato

World Net Daily is even kookier than it used to be. It looks like the National Enquirer,


6 posted on 03/04/2014 2:57:21 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

That Enquirer just called and asked for an immediate apology!


7 posted on 03/04/2014 2:58:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: ModernDayCato

I hate my state...The Constitution State, riiiight.


8 posted on 03/04/2014 3:01:15 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am the master - You are a worm... Let me find the insecticide... LOL


9 posted on 03/04/2014 3:01:50 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: ModernDayCato

Ashley is a dude. I’d be aggravated by that voice too.


10 posted on 03/04/2014 3:02:02 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: ModernDayCato

On you tube
7:43 Minutes
CT State Police: If Necessary Door To Door Gun Confiscation: ‘We Are Your Masters’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuDRIpER4TM


11 posted on 03/04/2014 3:03:24 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ha, ha, ha!


12 posted on 03/04/2014 3:03:35 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: ModernDayCato

Anti-American Connecticut Government and a picture of the new gestapo. America is in deep trouble and at its head is the communists Democrats that are destroying America. That is all citizens with a D after their name.


13 posted on 03/04/2014 3:04:29 PM PST by Logical me
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To: ModernDayCato
“I don’t want to talk about the Constitution, Ma’am, at all, at all,”

Sigh....really?

“You’re going to speak to me this way, somebody that pays your salary?” she asks.

Sigh....really?

14 posted on 03/04/2014 3:09:13 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: ModernDayCato

The laws are now against the law abiding constitutional free Americans, and law enforcement could care less.


15 posted on 03/04/2014 3:10:50 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: ModernDayCato

New York has a similar law. There is a large city near me and the State Police are doing ride alongs with the city cops in the bad (mostly minority) neighborhoods. The State police are flipping ( searching ) the cars during rutine traffic stops, the purpose is to bulster gun arrests under the new law, that is to bulster the stats. See some simple city cop can’t be trusted to charge a crime under the new law....in part because they don’t support it either. => They need those stats to support these stupid laws and give validation to their bleeding hearts.

So suddenly...profiling is in fashion in the progressive bastion. See how that works.


16 posted on 03/04/2014 3:11:46 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: caver
World Net Daily is even kookier than it used to be

In the case of this story, it appears they have the audio to back it up. So I don't know what to say.......

17 posted on 03/04/2014 3:15:10 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: Puppage

“I hate my state...The Constitution State, riiiight.”

It’s a Minitrue-type saying.


18 posted on 03/04/2014 3:16:43 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Puppage

“The Constitution State, riiiight.”

The Wooden Nutmeg State.


19 posted on 03/04/2014 3:19:16 PM PST by DBrow
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To: ModernDayCato

Well... I wouldn’t characterize the LEO as “going ballistic”.

I’d characterize it more as he’s going to do EXACTLY what he is told to do, regardless of whether or not he knows it’s wrong.

So he took the side he is comfortable with... and it isn’t ours.

It’s not a surprise to me.


20 posted on 03/04/2014 3:19:27 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: caver

This story is legit, so why waste our time by ripping WND when they have audio to back this up.


21 posted on 03/04/2014 3:19:45 PM PST by ohioman
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To: Whenifhow

You will BOW before your northern overlords! (It’s the mind-set up here!)


22 posted on 03/04/2014 3:20:39 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ohioman

Maybe I should have been more specific. The popups and other over the top BS is just too much for me. Did you look at any of the other stuff?


23 posted on 03/04/2014 3:21:54 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: PoloSec

There were a great number of loyalists that fought against the patriots. In 1780 there were 9000 patriots in Washington’s army while 8000 layalist served in the British Army.

I think I know what side this guy would have been on.


24 posted on 03/04/2014 3:23:49 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: ModernDayCato

This government has gone full NAZI


25 posted on 03/04/2014 3:25:59 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ModernDayCato

Hopefully, he and other peace officers in Connecticut will come to see the recent gun laws in their state as unlawful and resign if asked to enforce them. I suppose some will and some won’t.


26 posted on 03/04/2014 3:28:47 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: caver
Maybe I should have been more specific. The popups and other over the top BS is just too much for me. Did you look at any of the other stuff?

Popups and most ads can be completely avoided.

27 posted on 03/04/2014 3:34:11 PM PST by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: ModernDayCato

isnt vance the sandy hook police chief who threatened arrest to people on social media??


28 posted on 03/04/2014 3:40:31 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HdredscottIM all things are possible.)
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To: caver

The same National Enquirer that broke the story on Edwards and his pregnant mistress?


29 posted on 03/04/2014 3:42:20 PM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: caver

Ok. I do agree with WND using too many pop ups


30 posted on 03/04/2014 3:43:02 PM PST by ohioman
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To: All

I would like to bring everyone back to the realm of reality on this one.

I’m in CT and active in the scenario. Many others who are active in the scenario fight me on many points. They won’t listen to me beyond the words that I am about to type right now:

Sgt Vance is totally correct.

Everything that he has said here is true. And it is the correct response. He is required to enforce the law, as his subordinates are. CT, as well as all Americans, waived many of their protest and juris away many, many years ago. We have been asleep at the wheel.

Sgt Vance isn’t “right” though. You see, this whole problem isn’t a “now” thing and it’s not a “him” thing. The problem existed far before Malloy, SAFE, or Feinstein. It existed before color television.

What these people are saying and doing isn’t nearly as important as us keeping our heads about us, and finally agreeing what it is that we want to see and the liberty that we want ourselves and our kids to experience.

Let not your mind be clouded by this guy - Our gun rights are gone, and they aren’t coming back for as long as our overlords live. When a right disappears, it’s not going to come back - not with out a frightening body count.

So confiscation or no confiscation, Neither side is winning here. Only the overlords that have been playing the game for keeps, while we have been asleep at the wheel.


31 posted on 03/04/2014 3:45:00 PM PST by Celerity
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To: 3Fingas

Not with those pensions at stake.


32 posted on 03/04/2014 3:47:00 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: ModernDayCato
I know I will die one day. I hope I die with honor. Because at the end, honor is all you have.

5.56mm

33 posted on 03/04/2014 3:48:47 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: 3Fingas

Yea, and I’d bet some of the first that stay-on and attempt to uphold this unlawful law will suddenly “resign” whether they like it or not . . . . heh.


34 posted on 03/04/2014 3:56:03 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: ohioman

It seemed like some of the titles are over the top, maybe it’s just me.


35 posted on 03/04/2014 3:56:40 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Whenifhow

‘We Are Your Masters’

LAPD thought so too until that guy Dorn started threatening them. Next day they were hiding out in a parking garage doing their press conference.


36 posted on 03/04/2014 4:11:21 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Celerity
So since you're there and "active in the scenario" - what's the situation at present?
Both sides hunkered down waiting for something to happen?
37 posted on 03/04/2014 4:17:51 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Lt. Vance is the Connecticut State Police spokesperson (which is why I was surprised by his outburst). I believe he did threaten to arrest people on social media, though that might have been Chief Kehoe of the Newtown Police Dept. which includes Sandy Hook.


38 posted on 03/04/2014 4:24:51 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: Celerity

First, this guy did a fair job of keeping his cool in the face of a person looking for a confrontation.

Second, he’s right. This is something that the people need to take up with their legislators and their lawyers. Until the case is tried in court, it is ‘lawful’ and it is his job to enforce the law.

The thing that irks me is that we live in a Republic, we the people drop the ball, then get mad when the cops do their jobs. Jobs that the idiots that *we* elected tell them to do in *our* name.

You’re right. *We* fell asleep at the wheel, in so many ways. Cops can’t go around playing judge and decide what laws that they agree with and are willing to enforce. I don’t like it, but it’s not his responsibility to fix this mess. It’s our job.


39 posted on 03/04/2014 6:50:18 PM PST by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: ModernDayCato; All

Connecticut Patriot Group Fights Back Against Confiscation Order: ‘We Are Armed… And Are Familiar With the Finer Points of Marksmanship’

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/connecticut-patriot-group-fights-back-against-confiscation-order-we-are-armed-and-are-familiar-with-the-finer-points-of-marksmanship_02282014


40 posted on 03/04/2014 9:47:44 PM PST by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: grobdriver

Oh, I can write TOMES on this subject. I’ll keep it simple:

US:

We are still learning how to deal with each of these onslaughts. We are, like a 12 year old, believing everything that’s said and when we get pinched, we stop believing anything that that’s said. We’re simply too bad at this whole “Revolution” thing to know what’s going on. And if anyone wants to counter me, I’ll pull it apart. It’s simple, and this notion is going to save lives : “NOT ONE OF US has this figured out. And to think otherwise is to put yourself and others at grave risk”
We are doing what we think is appropriate - But “what’s appropriate” is only appropriate on a level playing field. Where laws are followed, constitutions are observed, and freedom is present. The CCDL has, without knowing it, hurt the movement more than helped it (Oh, I can smell the rotten tomatoes you’re throwing at me now) (Give me a moment to explain, and message me if you need further explanation) The CCDL has encouraged thousands of people to register their weapons. If they had stayed the line with me, the CT State registration program would have fallen flat on it’s face. But instead, their pleas to register and comply while the lawsuit is being heard has lead to more registrations and (frankly) DANGEROUS scenarios in the state of CT. Two points on the CCDL that we should ALL know at this point:

1. The government = The state legislators, the voters, the police and the courts CREATED this law. Do not look to them to reverse it. You don’t go to the courts to reverse a law that members and influencers from the courts helped to pass. It may not be the same judges, but it’s the same system. That system is designed NOT to free you - It is designed to control you.
2. Registration is pointless. (I’m going to branch here for a moment, but stay with me) There is no reason to register your car. Period. Registration doesn’t help the owner out in the slightest - And to those in CT who pay taxes for their car in their town, also pay road taxes in at the pumps. You’re being taxed double. Ok, back to the topic: Registration isn’t going to help anyone. It will only hurt people. I know, I know, you’ve heard this before. Allow me to clarify:

Regis = To the king. Registration is NOT licencing, is not permitting, and it’s not titling, liening, or deeding. Registration means that you hand over your property to the regent and from that moment forward you are being allowed to use it. (Does the car thing make sense now?)

When you register, you’re allowing the Regent to take your property, lock it up, or tell you when and where you may use it, hold it, or even look at it. This is what Northern Ireland enjoys. You can own a gun, but you register it and it goes into a safe and you don’t have a key.

By Maritime law, this Registration ALWAYS means that you are giving your property to the Regent for them to control. If your weapons are confiscated and you have NOT registered them - You have a case to get them back. Once you register, you have no case to get them back. You have signed them over.

This means that you have no legal leg to stand on when you’re before a judge, fighting an unjust law.

THEM:

They love this confusion, but they are TERRIFIED of what is about to happen. They are waiting for us to take out a LEO. The upper brass craves this. You see, (And I’ve always said this, look it up) A successful gun confiscation program is always possible, in any state and any area. All that has to be considered are the losses. When the losses are acceptable - then it’s full steam ahead. Tyrants know that during the first kristalnacht They will lose about 10 LEO for every 1 well armed, well trained patriot (Think Dorn). This will be terrible. National guard will be called in. Hell, maybe the UN will be called in. Either way, second wave will yield about 10 patriots lost to every 1 LEO. And THAT is the figure they are looking for.

CT isn’t a very armed state. It’s also NOT ON OUR SIDE. (Read that again: CT IS A COMMUNIST SHITHOLE) We are the minority there. No voting scheme in the world is going to change that. Malloy will be re-elected and he will act to the cheers of 80% of the state. Of the stark minority of Republicans in CT a large percent of them are RINO shit-for-brains. Of the non-rinos a percent are gun owners. Those who are gun owners are of solid citizenry. These are decent people, who would not consider an act of violence. The CT Gun owner is the safest, most forgiving and pleasant person in the country.

And that is their undoing.

I have been YELLING at people to get out. To leave their high-paying jobs and pump gas in another state. To leave their exquisite homes and move into a trailer somewhere else. And it’s tough. It’s tough to walk away from success in favor of freedom. But I left CT and moved to PA (I still commute and work from home) and I also left a pretty nice house (at a great loss) and moved into a small apartment in a conservative town. I know how hard it is.

So the general health of the state ? It’s miserable. The enforcers, the gun-grabbers and the tyrants are well trained for this, they are funded, they are applauded. The CT gun owner is severely outnumbered, disorganized, and frankly too goddam stupid to work on the same battlefield as the Communist. Plain and simple.

We are good people, but we simply don’t understand how to work against someone who cheats at every chance, lies, manipulates and throws dirt in our face. We are reasonable, decent people and we can’t grasp how to fight this war. And until we do, we MUST maintain a position of strategic retreat until we all fall shoulder-to-shoulder with the middle America patriot. When you grab your rifle and say “Come and take it”, and you’re not backed by a MOB of people willing to die with you - then you are just a bug on the windshield of the CPUSA.

I feel in PA that I will be standing with countless brothers and sisters, all rifles loaded and primed - And we will make this sort of stand (Even figuratively) and that simply won’t happen east of the Hudson river.


41 posted on 03/04/2014 10:00:36 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Marie

Thank your for your support on this position : I know it’s a bumpy road for people who speak like we do. We have got to keep a level head during these times.

If people are misguided and mis-educated about the threat that we face - Then a lot of people will die needlessly.

At times like this, people are looking for justification. And that is what both sides are feeding themselves. Justification. But Justification doesn’t win wars. WE must look at this honestly:

The state of CT is within their US Constitutional right to ban firearms. (10th amendment) The 2nd Amendment protects the people from a _federal_ move to remove our rights to own and bear arms. CT has it’s own state Constitution (The first, in fact) that words a citizen’s right to own and bear arms. The constitution of the STATE must be amended for this to happen legally. Malloy and his team of commie traitors have toed the line with the specifics of the laws : Their decrees are LEGAL. they should NOT be. We need to clean more in CT than just this latest law. The whole thing is corrupt, and the STATE constitution is being broken.

We MUST ensure that accurate information is being distributed.


42 posted on 03/04/2014 10:06:14 PM PST by Celerity
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To: Celerity

bttt


43 posted on 03/04/2014 10:18:15 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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