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Report: In Recent Meeting, Putin Surprised Netanyahu With Expression of Support
algemeiner.com ^ | 12.20.13 | Gidon Ben-zvi

Posted on 03/04/2014 3:48:04 PM PST by SoFloFreeper

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was surprised by a forthright expression of support for the Jewish state from Russian President Vladimir Putin during a meeting last month in Moscow, Israeli daily Ma’ariv reported on Friday.

Netanyahu had flown to meet the Russian leader in a last minute effort to prevent an interim nuclear deal between Iran and world powers from being signed.

During the meeting, Netanyahu asked Putin to withhold support for the convening of a Nuclear Non Proliferation Conference the stated purpose of which would be to rid the entire Middle East of nuclear weapons, according to the report. In 2010, President Barack Obama first announced plans for the convening of this international meeting. However, due to Israeli pressure, America pulled its support for the initiative late in 2012.

Russia was and remains one of the Conference’s chief backers. Ma’ariv said that in his meeting with Putin, Netanyahu explained that a meeting with effectively the chief aim of dismantling Israel’s nuclear capability – the existence of which has never been confirmed by Israel – will harm the country’s vital national interests.

Netanyahu went on to explain to the Russian President that there will only be a place for the convening of such a meeting after peaceful relations have been established between Israel and Arab countries across the Middle East, Ma’ariv said.

At this point in their hour-and-a-half conversation, Putin surprised the Israeli Premier. “Russia will slow all efforts to convene the conference,” Putin promised Netanyahu, according to Ma’ariv. Putin went even further, making it clear to Netanyahu that Russia will not do anything to harm Israel. He added that despite the alliance between Israel and the United States, Russia stands by Israel.

The reported comments come as somewhat of a policy about -face, as four short months ago Putin stated that Israel should dismantle its nuclear capability. However, the devil is in the details of this apparent change in the official Russian position vis-a-vis Israel’s nuclear program. Specifically, Putin told Netanyahu that Russia supports the ‘slowing’ of efforts to convene an international Nuclear Non Proliferation Conference, not a complete cessation of such efforts.

In short, while Putin is taking the Israeli position into account, he fully intends to keep all options on the table.


TOPICS: Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; iran; israel; lebanon; nukes; russia; summit; syria; turkey; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; waronterror; yuliatymoshenko
Can Bibi trust Putin?

Can Bibi trust BO?

Hmm. Strange things afoot.

1 posted on 03/04/2014 3:48:04 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

wtf


2 posted on 03/04/2014 3:50:31 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: SoFloFreeper
Can Bibi trust Putin?

Trust, but verify.

3 posted on 03/04/2014 3:50:57 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Currently all evidence would indicated that at least Putin has balls and does things that are in the best interest of his country.


4 posted on 03/04/2014 3:54:22 PM PST by WHBates
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To: SoFloFreeper
1) I have no idea myself; maybe and maybe not. "Trust but verify"?

2) No. (Withholding more candid and honest answer.)

5 posted on 03/04/2014 3:55:25 PM PST by OKSooner ("As the riders went on by him, he heard one call his name...")
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To: WHBates

I said the same thing, basically, in another earlier thread.


6 posted on 03/04/2014 4:02:18 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Russia’s influence in the middle east stems from it’s eternal desire for access to warm water ports.
With Obama’s incredible bungling in Iraq, Putin could see Iraq becoming such a corridor in the future.

With Obama in the WH Israel needs all the friends it can get.


7 posted on 03/04/2014 4:02:41 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
four short months ago Putin stated that Israel should dismantle its nuclear capability
If Netanyahu plans to keep having meetings with Zero and Pooty-Poot, he needs to start packing a gun. Thanks SoFloFreeper.
8 posted on 03/04/2014 4:10:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Wasn’t Putin saved from thugs back in his street-fighting days by a Jewish neighbor?

Always trust but verify. With Obama though, don’t trust under any circumstances.

What is clear is that Egypt has entered Russian orbit, and they just recently criminalized any dealing with Hamas. A TIME article declared future president El-Sisi ‘The Putin of the Nile’.


9 posted on 03/04/2014 4:17:24 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: SoFloFreeper
There is much more going on, since Obama's snub and anti-Israel activities.

Everything is ultimately about money and specifically energy in Russia. Their biggest export now is natural gas to Europe with the Ukraine in the bullseye with the majority of Gazprom transmission lines.

Gazprom Signs Deal on Israeli LNG
10 posted on 03/04/2014 4:19:56 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Gotta do what you gotta do.


11 posted on 03/04/2014 4:27:38 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SoFloFreeper

Putin demonstrates 10x the admirable qualities that our illegitimate imposter grifter president. It really sucks to hold a better opinion of the leading international tyrant than the domestic, but the imposter poses a much greater and real threat to the average American than Putin does.


12 posted on 03/04/2014 4:50:48 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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Doesn't surprise me at all. Putin knows Israel can't trust Obama. And there are upwards of a million Russians in Israel. Of course they're there because they had a way out of Russia, but it's a smart move on Putin's part. I doubt Bibi was surprised. Or that he trusts Putin. A part of the world in which our influence has been dissipated. The vacuum will be filled.

13 posted on 03/04/2014 4:55:01 PM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: SJackson

“And there are upwards of a million Russians in Israel.”

I didn’t realize that it was that high, but with the 2 major aliyahs in the 70s and 90s I guess so. Stunning, really. Not questioning your # at all.


14 posted on 03/04/2014 5:23:45 PM PST by Ready4Freddy
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To: SJackson
Hi again. Ref our discussion with Hillary.

I don't think Putin is antisemitic. I don't think he is anti Israel. But given the opportunity, impetus, excuse, etc., he would throw Israel under the bus.

[See the New Testament: Book of Revelations]

5.56mm

15 posted on 03/04/2014 5:34:29 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: SJackson

thanks


16 posted on 03/04/2014 5:53:25 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: M Kehoe
I don't think he's antisemitic at all. He'll use the issue to his benefit if he can. Israel was expected to join the Soviet fold. After all, Truman recognized Israel a day before the Soviets, but he embargoed arms sales. To Israel, not the Arabs. Other than France who supplied Israel illicitly (as did many Americans) the open arms suppliers were the Czechs, three months after a successful communist coup. My guess he remembers that as ingratitude. But he'd act in Russia's interest. And Russia is reasserting itself in the region with allies like Syria and Egypt. Perhaps the Saudis, who financed Egypt's recent $2 billion arms purchase from Russia. No, we didn't reduce our military aid to Egypt.

On the other hand, you've got Egypt fighting Hamas, and the Saudi's (and others) rumored to be willing to confront Iran along with Israel. Interesting part of the world, difficult to predict what the near term future of the region will be, other than America will continue losing influence, and Russia will continue to gain.

17 posted on 03/04/2014 6:06:16 PM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wonder if this has anything to do with all the ex-Russian Jews who are now living in Israel?


18 posted on 03/04/2014 7:08:49 PM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

When I worked for Israeli companies, articles about Bibi and Vlad meeting were in the newspapers. This is not new. They were hammering out issues concerning energy development, economic cooperation and Middle East security. I was at first surprised because I thought that Israel and Russia were enemies. They’re not. My impression was that Putin and Netanyahu had respect for each other, as opposed to how they see our Obuma as a flippin’ clown.


19 posted on 03/04/2014 7:19:50 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: SoFloFreeper
Putin surprised the Israeli Premier. “Russia will slow all efforts to convene the conference,” Putin promised Netanyahu, according to Ma’ariv. Putin went even further, making it clear to Netanyahu that Russia will not do anything to harm Israel. He added that despite the alliance between Israel and the United States, Russia stands by Israel.

Here's what Putin and Netanyahu have in common - they both love their respective countries and both can't be bullied easily. The term 'tough as nails' applies to both...

20 posted on 03/04/2014 8:05:41 PM PST by GOPJ ("Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), always currying favor with the press...."(nailed) - William Bigelow)
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To: SJackson
There are other reasons for Putin to want to develop friendly relations with Israel, or even develop Israel as a client state:

1) Putin wants to maintain Russia's monopoly on natural gas exports to Europe. Israel's Leviathan deposit is going to weaken that, but if Putin has Israel as a dependent ally, he can still use control of the natural gas as a political weapon.

2) Russia has a huge land area and an abundance of resources, but is suffering from the same population crash as Europe. Ergo, Putin needs a technological edge in order to be a military power. Israel is the world's single greatest exporter of new technology.

3) Putin is allied with the Iranians over the Arabs. The Persians have historically been among the friendlier peoples to the Jews, current politics aside. Moreover, there have been rumors of overtures between the Arabs and Israel as Iran has developed its nuclear technology. If Putin can diplomatically neutrilize the threat of Israel taking out Iran's nuclear program, it leaves his Shi'a Persian allies in a great position to dominate and even take their revenge on the Sunni Arab states. This in turn gives Putin the chance to control not only the Eurasian natural gas supplies, but its oil supplies as well, including Israel's Tamar deposit.

4) Given his ambitions, I have to imagine that Putin would like to have Mossad working for him rather than against him and his allies.

All of which would accord very neatly with Gog and Magog.

Shalom

21 posted on 03/05/2014 5:32:12 AM PST by Buggman (returnofbenjamin.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Can Bibi trust Putin?”

More than he can trust Obama and Kerry.


22 posted on 03/05/2014 6:54:59 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: PA Engineer

It will be very interesting to see if that pipe-line will be directed north or south, Europe or Asia.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 7:46:38 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: SJackson

Putin is a master statesman playing chess with an adolescent child.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 8:00:10 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: SJackson

Putin is a master statesman playing chess with an adolescent child - Obama.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 8:00:30 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: RS_Rider
Putin demonstrates 10x the admirable qualities that our illegitimate imposter grifter president.

Yea, but Obama is "good at killing." Said so himself.

26 posted on 03/05/2014 8:28:35 AM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Now the Buchananites will have to turn against Putin for his playing footsie with the International Jewish Conspiracy.

This is all very confusing, isn't it?

27 posted on 03/05/2014 8:31:24 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
I didn’t realize that it was that high,

I have read that 20% of the Israeli population speak Russian.

28 posted on 03/05/2014 8:35:50 AM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
For a long time, Russia banked on Arabs and Iranians, and didn't get much to show for it except a small naval base in Syria (which they will likely lose) and empty promises from Arab governments not to send money or arms to jihadis in Chechnya and Dagestan.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if Russia changed course and allied with Israel. It's not impossible, since Israel's creation was originally supported by the Soviet Union, and with Obama's sympathy for Muslims, Israel is probably looking for any allies it can find. Moreover, Putin is an ex-KGB thug, but unlike most ex-KGB thugs, he is not anti-Semitic and has good relations with members of the Israeli right like Lieberman.

29 posted on 03/05/2014 9:22:23 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: SoFloFreeper
Putin and Israel
30 posted on 03/05/2014 10:01:04 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m too late to this post to have my comment have any impact but how can Israel trust Putin on any issue if Putin was the one who facilitated one of the most egregious acts of global destabilization when providing Iran with the technology to acquire nuclear weapons?


31 posted on 03/05/2014 11:47:03 AM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce
...if Putin was the one who facilitated one of the most egregious acts of global destabilization when providing Iran with the technology to acquire nuclear weapons?

Good question.

Was Putin the one? I thought it was North Korea.

32 posted on 03/05/2014 5:03:11 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
No. North Korea supplied Syria with its nuclear reactor which Israel dispatched with ease. Putin, the one and only, did the unthinkable in providing Iran with its nuclear reactor and the means in which to destabilize the world in unimaginable ways.

1,The size of Tehran's initial nuclear weapon is purported to be three times the size of the ones used on Hiroshima, Nagasaki

2.Tehran, bitter religious adversary of Saudi Arabia, has made the public statement that the first thing it will do when it acquires nuclear weapons is to incinerate the oil fields of Saudi Arabia, the very point of which validates what I've read about the vituperative animus that the main branches of Islam, Shi'it versus Sunni, have for each other, in the belief the other is more odious, more antithetical to Islam than Jews.

33 posted on 03/05/2014 6:29:02 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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