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Should Ukraine Have Gotten Rid of Its Cold War Nukes?
NationaL Journal ^ | 03/03/2014 | Elaine M. Grossman

Posted on 03/04/2014 3:54:24 PM PST by Kid Shelleen

With Russian troops now occupying Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula, Kiev's beleagered interim leaders may be thinking twice about their nation's 1994 decision to abandon nuclear weapons.

The East European country actually held the world's third-largest nuclear arsenal after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. But Kiev in 1994 agreed to transfer all its atomic arms to Russia for elimination, shortly thereafter joined the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty as a non-nuclear nation, and within two years was weapons-free.

At the time, John Mearsheimer was one of very few who saw it as an unwise move.

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1 posted on 03/04/2014 3:54:24 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

it did...part of an agreement


2 posted on 03/04/2014 3:56:43 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Kid Shelleen

Too late now. That’s what they get for trusting Klinton, it would seem.


3 posted on 03/04/2014 3:57:43 PM PST by OKSooner ("As the riders went on by him, he heard one call his name...")
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To: Kid Shelleen

Their military budget is woefully small, and I doubt they had the finances or capability to maintain the stockpile correctly.

I’m somewhat involved in the field.


4 posted on 03/04/2014 3:58:40 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Kid Shelleen

That would complicate the situation.


5 posted on 03/04/2014 3:59:16 PM PST by McGruff (Every night has it's dawn.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Thank God they did.


6 posted on 03/04/2014 3:59:36 PM PST by DManA
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To: Kid Shelleen

Ukraine should have never trusted Communists or Socialists.
God forbid all at once.


7 posted on 03/04/2014 4:03:45 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Kid Shelleen

That’d just be awesome for that rock throwing crowd throwing Nazi salutes to also have a few nukes. Amazing,,,


8 posted on 03/04/2014 4:06:34 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: eyedigress; All

I was surprised that they did not heed the warning for all put forward by Clinton in Serbia: If you do not have nukes, your sovereignty is subject to those that have, or have bigger armies.


9 posted on 03/04/2014 4:07:50 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I might be in error here, as it’s been a long time, but IIRC, Ukraine may not have had actual control over the weapons, as they did not have the launch codes to fire them. I read a couple stories back then about how long it would likely take to break the encryption controls that were still in the hands of TPTB Moscow.

That may not be the case, though. Like I said, it’s been a long time since I read those articles.


10 posted on 03/04/2014 4:09:03 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

It’s easy to say ‘of course!’, but maintaining nuclear weapons is enormously expensive. Could basket case Ukraine actually have maintained them?


11 posted on 03/04/2014 4:14:08 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Kid Shelleen

The morale to the story is don’t trust Lolmerica.

Pay particular attention, Israel.


12 posted on 03/04/2014 4:14:22 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
If [...] Ukraine ends up losing chunks of territory to Russia, it is pretty much the end of a rational case for non-proliferation in many countries around the world. If Ukraine still had its nukes, it would probably still have Crimea. It gave up its nukes, got worthless paper guarantees, and also got an invasion from a more powerful and nuclear neighbor.

The choice here could not be more stark. Keep your nukes and keep your land. Give up your nukes and get raped.

Source

13 posted on 03/04/2014 4:18:51 PM PST by x
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To: Kid Shelleen

It may have been a mistake for them but not for the rest of us. They cannot defend themselves from 2,000 lightly aremed Russian soldiers how would they have defended those nukes from the Muslims?


14 posted on 03/04/2014 4:22:23 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Kid Shelleen

>At the time, John Mearsheimer was one of very few who saw it as an unwise move.<

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1. Would it have been better to have nukes in the Ukraine during these social unrests?

2. In which direction would the nuke delivery system have pointed if it were installed?


15 posted on 03/04/2014 4:29:42 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: FreedomNotSafety

One thing- if they had fought 2000 Russians, MANY more would have shown up.


16 posted on 03/04/2014 4:32:41 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Kadaffi gave up his WMDs and the Ukrainians gave up their nuclear stockpile. Hussein screwed them both.

Does anyone expect the Iranians to give up theirs?

17 posted on 03/04/2014 4:37:46 PM PST by fso301
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To: 353FMG

“1. Would it have been better to have nukes in the Ukraine during these social unrests?”

Giving Russia an excuse to go in “heavy” to take control of them.


18 posted on 03/04/2014 4:41:24 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: PghBaldy

And there are many Muslims.


19 posted on 03/04/2014 4:55:26 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Squantos

Ping.


20 posted on 03/04/2014 5:31:58 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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