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Why Hillary Will Flop
American Thinker ^ | March 5, 2014 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 03/04/2014 11:51:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Beltway folk hold silly notions. Hillary is deemed formidable, and Republicans should hope she does not win the Democrat nomination in 2016. I disagree. Hillary is a weak candidate for president, and if she is nominated, she will lose the general election.

Consider four aspects of a Hillary candidacy in the general election: (1) foreign policy, (2) domestic policy, (3) candidate appeal.

The sole executive experience of Hillary in her life has been as Obama’s secretary of state. During those years, she did nothing but more than leave a dreadful legacy for America. In 2016, it is certain that American foreign policy will be seen almost universally as a huge failure: Russian aggression in Ukraine, Syrian civil war, Iranian nuclear weapons, rogue and dangerous North Korea, Benghazi and the cover-up of that scandal, unstable Egypt, lost victories in Afghanistan and Iraq, the looming calamity of European national sovereign debt defaults…and so on....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; democratcare; donkeycare; hillary; jackasscare; obamacare; palin
Comments?
1 posted on 03/04/2014 11:51:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If she promises free stuff, she's in.

The Dems have shown that with the average low information voter, it doesn't matter if the candidate is qualified to do the job. You just need a charmer who makes a lot of promises.

2 posted on 03/05/2014 12:02:12 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately, the fifth aspect is voter fraud, and it trumps the other four....


3 posted on 03/05/2014 12:25:20 AM PST by awelliott (What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zero is weaker than Hellery, and he was elected twice. We’re past the tipping point — more takers than there are makers. Over 50% of American households receive a regular Govt. check. Welfare Queen Nation.


4 posted on 03/05/2014 12:28:36 AM PST by twister881
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somebody really needs to ask Hillary what she thinks about ergonomic keyboards.

Seriously.

No, seriously.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 12:41:30 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The average dipstick/dingelheimer who goes into a voting booth doesn’t really have much understanding when it comes to nice distinctions. There’s no telling what he’s liable to do.


6 posted on 03/05/2014 12:45:57 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
four aspects of a Hillary candidacy in the general election: (1) foreign policy, (2) domestic policy, (3) candidate appeal.

I'd like to think her flopping will be ESPECIALLY because of the 4th one... namely, that when you look at her, there is nothing there of any substance.

Of course, the LIVs will concentrate on this fourth aspect, and just vote for her.

7 posted on 03/05/2014 12:53:52 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The obvious wild-card is her health. If she is unable, the Dems will try a third term, or push Michelle in. They can win, as always, with the LIV, who is America.


8 posted on 03/05/2014 12:56:46 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: fatnotlazy
If she promises free stuff, she's in.

Bingo!

9 posted on 03/05/2014 1:04:38 AM PST by KevinB (Barack Hussein Obama: Proof-positive that affirmative action does not work.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She is easily exposed as an islamist via huma.


10 posted on 03/05/2014 1:06:18 AM PST by onedoug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Consider four aspects of a Hillary candidacy in the general election: (1) foreign policy, (2) domestic policy, (3) candidate appeal.

Counting is fundamental.

11 posted on 03/05/2014 1:12:28 AM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("The power to tax is the power to destroy." -- Chief Justice John Marshall, 1819)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She dodged sniper fire in Bosnia...doesn’t that make her a war hero or something like that? /s


12 posted on 03/05/2014 1:14:16 AM PST by teacherwoes (Alethephobia-fear of hearing the truth)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Never underestimate the stupidity of American, Liberal, Women. God help us.


13 posted on 03/05/2014 1:15:37 AM PST by des (IMAGIRL)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There's this ...

Pew study: 1 in 8 voter records flawed

WASHINGTON – More than 24 million voter-registration records in the United States— about one in eight — are inaccurate, out-of-date or duplicates. Nearly 2.8 million people are registered in two or more states, and perhaps 1.8 million registered voters are dead.

... snip ...

... and then there is this ....

Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud

Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud

Friends and Patriots,

It’s major duct tape time ’cause you’ll need it to keep your head from exploding.

Are you ready for this?

Here we go….

There is now compelling and undeniable evidence that MAJOR vote fraud had been perpetrated in the November 2012 Election. See FOTM’s posts chronicling the extensive pervasive fraud by going to our “2012 Election” page below our FOTM masthead, and click on those post links colored dark green.

But our screaming and hollering are to no avail. No one is listening to us. Not even the Republican Party.

Here’s why….

The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.

Yes. You read it correctly.

In fact, legally the GOP cannot ensure voting integrity, nor can it prevent vote fraud.

Here’s the astounding reason, which is kept from the American people.

PolitiJim writes for Gulag Bound, November 13, 2012, that during the weekly True the Vote webcast, Catherine Engelbrecht (see her photo below) related a meeting she had with Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee (RNC), asking what the GOP would do about voter integrity.  The answer?

Nothing.  They aren’t legally able to.

True the Vote’s Catherine Engelbrecht (read more about her, here)

This all goes back to a lawsuit 31 years ago, in 1981. The following is compiled from an account on The Judicial View, a legal website specializing in court decision research and alerts, and from “Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee,” Case No. 09-4615.

In 1981, during the gubernatorial election in New Jersey (NJ), a lawsuit was brought against the RNC, the NJ Republican State Committee (RSC), and three individuals (John A. Kelly, Ronald Kaufman, and Alex Hurtado), accusing them of violating the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (VRA), 42 U.S.C. §§ 1971, 1973, and the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

The lawsuit was brought by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the NJ Democratic State Committee (DSC), and two individuals (Virginia L. Peggins and Lynette Monroe).

The lawsuit alleged that:

  • The RNC and RSC targeted minority voters in New Jersey in an effort to intimidate them.
  • The RNC created a voter challenge list by mailing sample ballots to individuals in precincts with a high percentage of racial or ethnic minority registered voters. Then the RNC put the names of individuals whose postcards were returned as undeliverable on a list of voters to challenge at the polls.
  • The RNC enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs and police officers with “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands, to intimidate voters by standing at polling places in minority precincts during voting. Some of the officers allegedly wore firearms in a visible manner.

To settle the lawsuit, in 1982 — while Ronald Reagan was President (1981-1989) — the RNC and RSC entered into an agreement or Consent Decree, which is national in scope, limiting the RNC’s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the court’s approval in advance. The following is what the RNC and RSC, in the Consent Decree, agreed they would do:

[I]n the future, in all states and territories of the United States:

(a) comply with all applicable state and federal laws protecting the rights of duly qualified citizens to vote for the candidate(s) of their choice;

(b) in the event that they produce or place any signs which are part of ballot security activities, cause said signs to disclose that they are authorized or sponsored by the party committees and any other committees participating with the party committees;

(c) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their agents or employees to remove or deface any lawfully printed and placed campaign materials or signs;

(d) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their employees to campaign within restricted polling areas or to interrogate prospective voters as to their qualifications to vote prior to their entry to a polling place;

(e) refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately in or directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose;

(f) refrain from having private personnel deputized as law enforcement personnel in connection with ballot security activities.

The RNC also agreed that the RNC, its agents, servants, and employees would be bound by the Decree, “whether acting directly or indirectly through other party committees.”

As modified in 1987, the Consent Decree defined “ballot security activities” to mean “ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy vote fraud.”

Since 1982, that Consent Decree has been renewed every year by the original judge, Carter appointee District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise, now 88 years old. Long retired, Debevoise comes back yearly for the sole purpose of renewing his 1982 order for another year.

U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise

In 2010, the RNC unsuccessfully appealed “to vacate or modify” the Consent Decree in “Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee,” Case No. 09-4615 (C.A. 3, Mar. 8, 2012). (I paid The Judicial Review $10 for the PDF of Case No. 09-4615 and uploaded the 59-page document to FOTM’s media library. To read Case No. 09- 4615, click here!)

This is a summary of the appeals judge’s ruling, filed on March 8, 2012:

In 1982, the Republican National Committee (“RNC”) and the Democratic National Committee (“DNC”) entered into a consent decree (the “Decree” or “Consent Decree”), which is national in scope, limiting the RNC’s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the court’s approval in advance. The RNC appeals from a judgment of the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey denying, in part, the RNC’s Motion to Vacate or Modify the Consent Decree. Although the District Court declined to vacate the Decree, it did make modifications to the Decree. The RNC argues that the District Court abused its discretion by modifying the Decree as it did and by declining to vacate the Decree. For the following reasons, we will affirm the District Court’s judgment.

Surprise! The judge who denied the RNC’s appeal to “vacate” the 1982 Consent Decree is an Obama appointee, Judge Joseph Greenaway, Jr., of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit.

Judge Joseph Greenaway, Jr., U.S. Court of Appeals, 3rd Circuit

Guy Benson of Townhall.com points out that in last Tuesday’s election, Obama only won by 406,348 votes in 4 states:

  • Florida: 73,858
  • Ohio: 103,481
  • Virginia: 115,910
  • Colorado: 113,099

Those four states, with a collective margin of 406,348 votes for Obama, add up to 69 electoral votes. Had Romney won 407,000 or so additional votes in the right proportion in those states, he would have 275 electoral votes.

All four states showed Romney ahead in the days leading up to the election. But on November 6, Romney lost all four states by a substantial margin, all of which have precincts that inexplicably went 99% for Obama, had voter registrations that exceeded their population, and had experienced  problems with voting machines.

This election was stolen by the Democrats via vote fraud. Despite all the evidence of fraud, the Republican Party has been strangely silent about it.

Now you know why.

I’ll leave you with one last, even more disturbing thought:

The RNC and DNC made their Consent Decree 30 years ago, in 1982. The agreement in effect gives a carte blanche to the Democrat Party to commit vote fraud in every voting district across America that has, in the language of the Consent Decree, “a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations.” The term “substantial proportion” is not defined.

The Democrat Party knew this 30 years ago, more than enough time to put a plan in place to identify and groom their “perfect candidate” — in the words of Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) in 2008, a “light-skinned” black Democrat who has “no Negro dialect unless he wanted to have one.”

  • Being a black Democrat, this perfect candidate would get the support of almost all black Americans (96% in 2008!) and other racial minorities (two-thirds of Hispanics in 2008).
  • Being a “light-skinned” black with “no Negro dialect”, this perfect candidate would get the support of white Americans perpetually guilt-ridden about America’s original sin of slavery.

It doesn’t matter if this “perfect candidate” has dubious Constitutional eligibility to be president. They would see to it that his original birth certificate (if there is one) would never see the light of day. The same with his other documents — his passports, school and college records, draft registration, and medical records (so we’ll never know why Obama has that very long scar running from one side of his head, over the crown, to the other side).

Now, we understand the significance of the account Tom Fife wrote during the 2008 presidential campaign. Fife, a U.S. government contractor, claims that in 1992 while he was visiting Moscow, a woman with undying allegiance to Soviet Communism (the Soviet Union had recently collapsed, on December 31, 1991) told him that a black man named Barack, born of a white American woman and an African male, was being groomed by communists to be, and would be elected, President of the United States.

Now, we finally understand the cryptic remark made in May 2010, by Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan: “Obama was selected before he was elected.”

In 2008, this “perfect candidate” won the presidential election. And despite his many failures in his first term, he would be reelected in 2012 for a second term via massive vote fraud. But nothing would be done about the vote fraud, because of that Consent Decree signed by the RNC 30 years ago.

The Republican Party is dead — and with it, the U.S. two-party system as well — and the sooner we voters recognize that the better.

The question that remains is whether the American Republic is also dead.

UPDATE (Nov. 16, 2012):

Since I published this post yesterday, we’ve been asking each other: “What can I/we do about this?” Here are my suggestions:

1. If you are a registered Republican, QUIT! Switch your voter registration ID to non-partisan Independent.

2. Stop donating money, not even one penny, to the GOP. Tell them why.

3. Spread the word. Please send the URL of this post (http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote- fraud/) to:

  • EVERYONE on your email list.
  • Media people for whom you have email addresses.
  • Tea Party groups you know.
  • Post the link on your Facebook page.
  • Post the link as your comment on websites and blogs you visit.

4. Write your state’s attorney general and ask him/her to investigate vote fraud in your state. Click here!

UPDATE (Nov. 21, 2012):

5 days after I’d published this and 7 days after PolitiJim of GulagBound published his acount, someone in the conservative establishment media is writing about this — WND’s Bob Unruh. Click here for his article, “GOP Legally Barred From Fighting Vote Fraud”. But it’s still the sound of crickets from conservative talk radio, even though I’ve sent my post to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, and a reader had also sent it to Mark Levin.

Just so you know: It makes no monetary difference to us how many people read this post. Fellowship of the Minds (FOTM) is an ad-free blog. We don’t make even a penny in revenue because we deliberately don’t have ads. In fact, I paid WordPress a $99 annual fee so WordPress can’t insert ads on FOTM either. All of our writers work our butts off, for no pay, as a labor of love for our country.

~Eowyn


14 posted on 03/05/2014 1:31:27 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

Obama sure did get bubbled up there as a figurehead. So did Slow Joe. Both compliant figures unlikely to give the bigger Democrat movers and shakers much trouble.

At the same time, if the truth is notable enough why go to teasers like errors in voter records without reference to what a consequential error would be. Folding innuendo into an otherwise true argument is like flies in the perfume that make it stink.

And the proposed remedy is to hate your closest political friends. Something tells me that hell is speaking here.


15 posted on 03/05/2014 1:38:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: twister881

“Zero is weaker than Hellery, and he was elected twice. We’re past the tipping point — more takers than there are makers. Over 50% of American households receive a regular Govt. check. Welfare Queen Nation.”

Bingo - it’s over .


16 posted on 03/05/2014 1:41:20 AM PST by sushiman
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To: des

God will not help us .


17 posted on 03/05/2014 1:42:24 AM PST by sushiman
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To: onedoug

She is easily exposed as an islamist via huma.


Doesn’t seem to hurt the current muzzie in office.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 1:50:10 AM PST by boycott
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To: meadsjn

bfl


19 posted on 03/05/2014 1:50:50 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I remember thinking the same thing about Obama in 2008, that there was no way he could possibly win.

But he did.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 2:08:15 AM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: onedoug

The Republican candidate will not say anything unkind about Hillary. He or she will probably till the voters she is an honorable person.


21 posted on 03/05/2014 2:13:54 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: meadsjn
Guy Benson of Townhall.com points out that in last Tuesday’s election, Obama only won by 406,348 votes in 4 states:

Florida: 73,858
Ohio: 103,481
Virginia: 115,910
Colorado: 113,099

Those four states, with a collective margin of 406,348 votes for Obama, add up to 69 electoral votes. Had Romney won 407,000 or so additional votes in the right proportion in those states, he would have 275 electoral votes.

Well, it's obvious you have a lot of time invested in reading about this consent decree and some the numbers of the 2012 election....but you are missing what really tipped against Romney and why.

Romney is a fraud. The reason put forth to vote for him was that he was the lesser of two evils, but this is not true. He was believed to be the greater of two evils by enough voters that it cost him and the lame GOP the election.

The final demographic analyses all point to the Perot bloc of voters that chose to not vote for Romney. This bloc of voters numbers more that six million strong. They will vote en masse for Ted Cruz but not a fraud like Romney.

The error Romney made was in assuming those blue collar conservative Perot bloc voters were in his column as a result of putting the false and mediocre Paul Ryan as a Tea Party conservative on the ticket with him. Not many were fooled.

Yes, voting fraud is a problem but a consent decree barring the RNC nationally does not stop the legions of concerned citizens from scrubbing down the voter rolls nor stop Secretaries of States and state prosecutors from enforcing the integrity of the voting process.

The bigger problem is getting rid of the frauds who occupy the senior GOP leadership.

22 posted on 03/05/2014 2:42:49 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Left Wing Faithful consider Hillary much as they regard Obama—reality does not intrude upon their evaluation of her.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 3:04:01 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree that Hillary is a weak candidate, but so was Obama, in both elections he won. If the GOP again induces the base to stay home by nominating a middle of the road socialist then even a weak Hillary can win. Forty percent of the public will vote Democrat even if Satan is their candidate. Their get-out-the-vote and fraud machinery is second to none. Their control over all aspects of government like the IRS, the FBI and “Justice” are powerful coercive weapons against any challenger. Then there’s the media. The democrats could run a corpse and we’d never hear the slightest suspicion as the media would cover it up. So don’t rule out Hillary or even Satan. They could share the ticket, though Satan would have to accept the VP slot.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 3:08:53 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s female. That’s all that will matter to the same set of people who voted for Obama because of his skin color.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 3:42:36 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But she is a WOMAN! GEESH don’t you know anything?


26 posted on 03/05/2014 3:42:43 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kerry and Biden have dreamed of the Presidency. Don’t think for a second that they won’t run. The Dem Primary should be a real slugfest. Hope they don’t take all the headlines from Cruz. I, also, hope the GOP-e doesn’t drag out our primary like 2012. Hopefully the hasbeens from 2012 won’t run again.


27 posted on 03/05/2014 3:44:49 AM PST by Undecided 2012
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To: awelliott

If they prop up a dead democrat in a coffin they would win.


28 posted on 03/05/2014 3:52:30 AM PST by Average Al
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's my crazy theory. And I understand it's way out there so please people, understand that right off.

My theory is that in 2016, the media will once again select the candidate from both parties.

Reagan was the last President picked by the voter, IMHO.

And since the economy is going to tank big time, the media will select a Republican (think RINO like Christie) to take the blame for ObamaCare and rampant spending.

So Hillary could very well be the Dem candidate the media picks. But only because she will be easy for the media to discredit, giving us Chris Christie as the President who oversees the economic collapse that Obama and Congress has given us.

(end of conspiracy theory rant)

29 posted on 03/05/2014 3:56:04 AM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: awelliott

Voter fraud must be addressed before the fall, and 2016. I have no doubt that this is the reason Obama “won” a second term.


30 posted on 03/05/2014 3:59:45 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: ReaganGeneration2

“The obvious wild-card is her health. If she is unable, the Dems will try a third term, or push Michelle in. They can win, as always, with the LIV, who is America.”

I don’t know if Hillary has health issues or not. But, she definitely appears lothorgic and unenthused. I’m doubting that she has the juice to make a run.


31 posted on 03/05/2014 4:01:47 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear
I've read, that she a sot..habitual drunk.

32 posted on 03/05/2014 4:22:59 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: fatnotlazy
You just need a charmer who makes a lot of promises.

Charmer... hmmmmmm...

Yes, most definitely!

33 posted on 03/05/2014 4:25:58 AM PST by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Four reasons why she will win if she runs 1) low info voters 2) voter fraud 3) “It’s TIME for a woman president” 4) the msm will eviscerate any opponents in order for #3 to happen


34 posted on 03/05/2014 4:31:27 AM PST by Reddy (bo stinks)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It takes a village......

By focusing on the dying village, all images beyond will be blurry and out of focus. Giving the villagers more than they need or can provide themselves will be her strategy.

Some strange hormone to rejuvenate and morph the old deficient and rejected obamadon’tcare into the new shiny Hillarydoescare will be extracted from dead democrat formula book. Women that buy the superhydrating serum of Oil of Olay will continue to be duped by the marketing campaigns.

Truth will be overcome by fantasy


35 posted on 03/05/2014 4:38:31 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: teacherwoes
She dodged sniper fire in Bosnia

"And then, ya know, there was 'pow-pow-pow' everywhere and I was all like Rambo' an' stuff..."


36 posted on 03/05/2014 5:42:31 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: chajin

She’s female and all it would take is for Hillary to shed a few tears again and play the victim and she is in.

But I too believe that Hillary won’t get the democrat nomination. However the democrats will try to find another to become the first female president.

I don’t think Moochelle wants to run, but Oprah just might.


37 posted on 03/05/2014 5:44:32 AM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can’t seriously believe experience is a concern to liberals. These are the same people who elected barack obamateur not once but twice. And his resume is thinner than boarding-house soup.

If Hillary courts the fags, the dykes, the econazis, the welfare parasites, and the Occupy crybaby crowd — which she will — she will no doubt win the commun ... er, I mean Democratic ... nomination. And those nut groups are the same ones that stuck us with the bungler-in-chief we have today.

Experience? Get real!


38 posted on 03/05/2014 5:48:24 AM PST by IronJack
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The defeatist attitude here is frightening. We’re still almost two years away from the first ballots being cast in Iowa and New Hampshire and many of you act as though the next eight years after Obama are a done deal with Hillary. Of course the obstacles for winning the presidency are formidable. A conservative candidate has to deal with low information voters, the Democrat political machine, the lefty media, and of course the establishment RINOS. All huge impediments to be sure but have confidence that we can overcome all of this. The last few elections were no-brainers with establishment RINOS as the nominee and the results were predictable. We have not run a true conservative since Reagan and so right now the American voter sees no difference between a liberal and a RINO. This country is starving for leadership. I honestly believe that if the braindead GOP ran an honest conservative who was able to articulate ideas and hammer those points home with the American people that person can defeat Hillary, Uncle Joe, etc. This country wants a leader. Even the low info types can feel something isn’t quite right with the country. Just believe folks. This pessimism does nothing for any of us.


39 posted on 03/05/2014 7:27:22 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not sure it appears the hot air sells now days remember Obama was elected twice most of the public are to stupid and lazy to look at facts before they vote.


40 posted on 03/05/2014 8:55:23 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: fatnotlazy
You just need a charmer ...

HILLARY and CHARM are mutually exclusive!

Think of OIL and WATER.
41 posted on 03/06/2014 2:49:26 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: dowcaet
You said...
“The defeatist attitude here is frightening. We’re still almost two years away from the first ballots being cast in Iowa and New Hampshire and many of you act as though the next eight years after Obama are a done deal with Hillary. Of course the obstacles for winning the presidency are formidable. A conservative candidate has to deal with low information voters, the Democrat political machine, the lefty media, and of course the establishment RINOS. All huge impediments to be sure but have confidence that we can overcome all of this. The last few elections were no-brainers with establishment RINOS as the nominee and the results were predictable. We have not run a true conservative since Reagan and so right now the American voter sees no difference between a liberal and a RINO. This country is starving for leadership. I honestly believe that if the braindead GOP ran an honest conservative who was able to articulate ideas and hammer those points home with the American people that person can defeat Hillary, Uncle Joe, etc. This country wants a leader. Even the low info types can feel something isn’t quite right with the country. Just believe folks. This pessimism does nothing for any of us.”

Everything you posted is 100% correct. Could Hillary win? yes. Is she a shoe in? Not by a long shot. The country will not be in the mood for an Obama third term in 2016. And Obama’s JAR is sinking. Barring something major, it's likely to stay low from now on. Do people really believe that the country would then want to continue with everything they see as going wrong with the country? Now the GOP can mess it up an nominate McCain again. But the sense the country has is things are terribly wrong. Not just with ObamaCare but the economy, foreign policy, the culture...ect. ect.

42 posted on 03/06/2014 4:00:39 AM PST by LMAO (Insurgent conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We have so many comments from pessimists on this thread! It’s depressing.


43 posted on 03/07/2014 6:40:52 PM PST by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Undecided 2012

Santorum, Huckabee, Scarborough and Huntsman are already making noises and ROMNEY is even hinting around that he is thinking about it.


44 posted on 03/07/2014 7:47:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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