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THE TEXAS PRIMARY: THE BAD AND THE GOOD AND THE UGLY
3/5/2014 | Self

Posted on 03/05/2014 5:36:24 AM PST by Nextrush

With some 99 perecent plus of the vote in, John Cornyn picked up 59 percent of it to avoid a runoff.

Steve Stockman was second with 19 percent, Dwayne Stovall third at 11 percent.

That's a hard result for me to take. With his cloture vote last month to increase the nation's debt ceiling (credit card limit) Cornyn moved the United States closer to its eventual financial ruin.

Some felt the race was a bit rigged with Stockman running a crazy and ineffective challenge. I supported Stockman noting his willingness to not vote for John Boehner as Speaker along with 11 other GOP House members at the beginning of the current session.

Its worth noting that big names like Glenn Beck, Mark Levin and Sarah Palin stayed out of this fight. Perhaps they knew something I didn't about the contest.

Business as usual Republican Congressman Pete Sessions beat Katrina Pierson 64-36 percent, another disappointment.

One bright spot on the ballot was the first place finish for Lieutenant Governor with State Senator Dan Patrick coming in over 41 percent to incumbent David Dewhurst's 28 percent.

Ted Cruz roughed up Dewhurst in the Senate primary two years ago and it looks like Patrick is in a good position to take him out for good in the runoff.

Attorney General Greg Abbott easily won in the first round with 95 percent of the vote to be the Republican candidate for governor.

He will face the famous-infamous Democrat Wendy Davis in the fall.

I think one of the big reasons the GOPe political machine can win elections is their ability to fool grassroots voters like the game Cornyn played last month voting for the higher debt ceiling on the cloture vote then against it on final passage (ala John Kerry on Iraq).

Pro-Life voters have been misled in the big way and Pro-Abortion ones for that matter over the legislation Texas passed last year regarding abortion.

A poster here on FR pointed out and I confirmed it with my own check of the law's actual wording that the media and Pro-Abortion activists "twenty week ban" is symbolic and not firm. The Republicans are fooling Pro-Life voters with a fake 20-week ban in the bill.

The actual wording of Bill 2:

'IN THE UNEXPECTED EVENT THAT THE APPLICATION OF THIS STATUTE IS FOUND TO IMPOSE AN IMPERMISSIBLE UNDUE BURDEN ON ANY PREGNANT WOMAN OR GROUP OF PREGNANT WOMEN, THE APPLICATION OF THE STATUTE TO THOSE WOMEN SHALL BE SEVERED FROM THE REMAINING APPLICATIONS OF THE STATUTE THAT DO NOT IMPOSE AN UNDUE BURDEN'

The legal wording translates to the law not applying to any pregnant woman who is more than 20 weeks pregnant, wants to get an abortion and claims the law imposes an 'undue burden' on her.

I guess the GOP and Democrat political machines prefer to use the drama they generate over this bill to raise money and fool their grassroots supporters for the election.

(DO OTHER 20 WEEK 'ABORTION BAN' BILLS IN OTHER STATES CONTAIN THIS NULLIFYING CLAUSE????)

Some think the abortion clinic regulations in the bill are good because at least one clinic shut down in the state because of it.

But I have a different take. Abortion clinics run by small time operators are forced to shut down while ones run by the big time operator, Planned Parenthood, get to stay open.

There are many big money contributors to both parties including the GOP who bristle at the notion of Roe versus Wade being overturned and who support Planned Parenthood.

In the end, abortion clinic regulation in Texas and everywhere else ostensibly passed as Pro-Life legislation ends up being Pro-Abortion legislation keeping the big abortion operator in business (Planned Parenthood).

So much of politics is that way with a large business using regulation of its kind of business by government as a way to take out its smaller competitors.

My contention remains that 95 PERCENT OF REPUBLICAN ELECTED OFFICIALS EITHER FAKE CONSERVATISM OR REPUDIATE IT.

In Texas that may be 90 percent of GOP elected office holders, but that's 90 percent too many.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: glennbeck; marklevin; prolife; sarahpalin
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I would vote for a conservative third party candidate this fall for Senate in TX if I lived there.
1 posted on 03/05/2014 5:36:24 AM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush
one of the big reasons the GOPe political machine can win elections is their ability to fool grassroots voters

They claim to be conservative, they lie.

2 posted on 03/05/2014 5:40:47 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Nextrush

DAMMIT TEXAS FREEPERS- WHERE WERE YOU?

COUNT THE VOTES - you will see how FEW people voted in the primary

Your votes and effort could have made a loust 9% difference


3 posted on 03/05/2014 5:41:17 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Nextrush

Me too.


4 posted on 03/05/2014 5:41:47 AM PST by nomad
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To: Nextrush
I will be voting 3rd party in the senate race. Cornyn won't get my vote in the general.

The take away from this is after spending millions against ineffective competition, Cornyn was held to within 10 points of having to go to a run-off.

Certainly it wasn't the blow out that the GOP-E and the media was predicting.

/johnny

5 posted on 03/05/2014 5:43:44 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mr. K
Texas freepers were there.

A number of vocal freepers support the GOP-E, and shill for them here.

/johnny

6 posted on 03/05/2014 5:45:34 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

20 points.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 5:45:36 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
If Cornyn had been held to less than 50%, there would have been a run-off. 10 points.

/johnny

8 posted on 03/05/2014 5:47:00 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You are correct. It’s too early in the morning—I erred in my math.


9 posted on 03/05/2014 5:47:56 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Nextrush

There was no serious alternative to Cornyn. Stockman and Stovall may as well have been fictitious characters made up in our own minds for all they were worth. And that should not surprise anyone who had any clue. Anybody thinking that either of those clowns was going to force Cornyn into a runoff was deluding themselves.

The Tea Party is a great idea but it has to get serious or be disregarded. Money, organization, media....and there was little to none of that this go around. I think on Stockman’s part this was largely just a money generating operation. These are politicians after all, never forget that regardless of the letter after their name. Sobriety is needed. Seriously.


10 posted on 03/05/2014 5:48:54 AM PST by FAA
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To: JRandomFreeper
I will be voting 3rd party in the senate race.

This. I will not be party to sending Cornyn back to continue his duplicitous, mendacious, traitorous reign in leadership. More Cornyn will beget more Crists, Chafees, Specters and Murkowskis. Heck, he's one himself; he just hasn't been flushed from cover yet.

11 posted on 03/05/2014 5:49:09 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: FAA
And yet Cornyn had to spend millions in media buys to squeak by with barely 9% saving him from a run-off election.

/johnny

12 posted on 03/05/2014 5:52:27 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Paine in the Neck

I did not vote for Cornyn in the primary and I will not vote for him in the general.


13 posted on 03/05/2014 5:52:53 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: FAA

Sobriety may be needed, indeed.

Those intoxicated in other ways often find themselves intoxicated by politics.

Crazy can equal drunk.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 5:53:34 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Nextrush

Who one the nomination for Stockman’s old congressional seat?


15 posted on 03/05/2014 5:53:50 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: JRandomFreeper
Cornyn won't get my vote in the general.

+1

Unfortunately the 3rd party candidates in this race leave me cold. It is truly sad when you catch yourself wondering if (assuming she wins the runoff) the LaRouchie candidate is a viable option.

16 posted on 03/05/2014 5:53:58 AM PST by BoringGuy
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To: Mr. K

My precinct had a voter tally on the door. I voted at 6:30 and prior to that there were 44 people that voted during the day. I live in a precinct that I would guess easily has a thousand or so registered voters.


17 posted on 03/05/2014 5:55:07 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Nextrush

In my opinion Stockman threw the race.

I feel like we’ve been had. The RNC seems to have implemented a new strategy in protecting their incumbents during primaries. Get a Tea Party backed candidate to run to pull just enough votes away from anyone else that might get traction, but have them purposely not try to win.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 5:55:28 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: BoringGuy

If no 3rd party is good maybe a write-in would work.

Its easy on these voting machines we use here in PA.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 5:55:51 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: FAA
Money, organization, media.

Absolutely. Here's why: The Proposition to repeal Obamacare won with 1,253,837 votes for repeal, 94,304 against yet John Cornyn - who voted for cloture so that the funding of ObamaCare could proceed - was resoundingly sent back to the Senate to continue his mendacity. Money, organization, media - and lots of it - are required to break through that wall of ignorance.

20 posted on 03/05/2014 5:55:56 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Stockman wasn't Tea-Party backed. Stovall was.

/johnny

21 posted on 03/05/2014 5:56:24 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Time to rally behind the party’s nominee!

JUST LIKE Crist supported Rubio, Specter supported Toomey, Castle supported O’Donnell, Murkowski supported Miller, Bolling supported Cuccinelli, John Warner supports Gillespie and on and on. ;-)

Yeah, he won’t be getting any votes in this household either.


22 posted on 03/05/2014 5:56:52 AM PST by Nickname
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To: BoringGuy

The LaRouche candidate may be a strategic option as the one most easily picked off the next time for a one and done. Replacing GOPe leadership is almost that important that I may consider this.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 5:59:57 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: DoodleDawg

somewon did....don’t no hu


24 posted on 03/05/2014 5:59:59 AM PST by Postman (Flies get too litle credit. They know!!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Actually... come to think of it... The RNC been doing the same thing in presidential primaries... have their preferred RINO candidate run HARD against any conservatives on the ballot, get one or more real conservatives to run but only half heartedly. If any of them start to get traction, have the self destruct on purpose. Once the nomination is secure, have the RINO back away from the race and let the Democrat win.

Both McCain and Romney did this. Only really tried in the primary, while basically intentionally throwing the race against Obama without even putting up a fight.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 6:00:08 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Paine in the Neck
She didn't win her party's nomination, unfortunately.

/johnny

26 posted on 03/05/2014 6:02:07 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“And yet Cornyn had to spend millions in media buys to squeak by with barely 9% saving him from a run-off election.
/johnny “

Johnny, really, I’m telling you as a fellow conservative and Freeper......wake up and stop this garbage.

Cornyn had, what, 7 or 8 Primary opponents and still rolled with 59% of the vote. That is monster. He had the money, the media, and, the machine. And a whole bunch of our fellow Texans, friends and neighbors, were perfectly fine with him going back to the Senate.

Cornyn spent millions? Okay. He had the millions to spend. His collective opponents did not and there’s a reason for that. No one believed in investing in them. They weren’t serious and people saw that. And, no one seemed to care either. As much as we like Cruz around here even he wouldn’t risk endorsing any opponent because he recognized that too.

People, stop fooling yourselves and wake up. Wishing and hoping don’t make it true.


27 posted on 03/05/2014 6:02:24 AM PST by FAA
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To: FAA

Well Cornyn won this round, but he doesn’t have to win the next round with a third party or maybe write-in and conservatives should send a message that there will be NO VOTES FOR RINO’s.


28 posted on 03/05/2014 6:05:14 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: FAA
You can KMA. I'll continue to work against the GOP-E at every turn, going to the contest with whatever is at hand.

What did you want me to do? Curl up and cry? Give up before trying?

Cornyn didn't do as well as predicted even with all his money. He wasted money on the primary fight that won't be going to other liberal republicans.

I don't expect to win every battle. I do expect to fight every fight.

/johnny

29 posted on 03/05/2014 6:06:54 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Nextrush

I’m probably not going to vote for Cornhole in November, but I sure don’t want a c0*k $ucking Democrat in my Senate seat...


30 posted on 03/05/2014 6:12:25 AM PST by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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but I sure don’t want a c0*k $ucking Democrat in my Senate seat...

If Cornyn wins in November, we'll have one. With an (R) behind his name.

/johnny

31 posted on 03/05/2014 6:13:39 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Nextrush
It is a mistake to ever think the voters are stupid or are being "fooled." As Lincoln said, "You can fool some of the people . . . ." Voters vote their interest. Many here don't like it, but the debt ceiling is NOT viewed as the major issue confronting this country, and until you see serious inflation or other consequences directly tied to the debt, no one will see it as an issue. Simple economics.

I'm guessing that the voters of TX did not find Cornyn all that "liberal" or all that RINO-ish, and instead probably think the battle ought to be against Dems. But I'm just guessing.

32 posted on 03/05/2014 6:17:45 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Nextrush

Don’t forget that Jorge P. “Border Patrol is racist” Bush won his primary, launching the next generation of compassionate faux conservatives.


33 posted on 03/05/2014 6:19:53 AM PST by peyton randolph (Show me the man and I will find the crime. - Lavrenti Beria)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Indeed. Just look for the number of people who spout phrases lik, “Hold your nose and vote”, “Just win” or “Conservative in the primary, GOP in the general”. This is why we can’t have nice things.


34 posted on 03/05/2014 6:20:41 AM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: Nextrush

What’s going to happen is that nothing will change.
The RINO’s will gang up and destroy conservative organizations and candidates and outright felony election fraud to keep power, then engage in fratricide among their own ranks. Meanwhile, the traitorous scum on the left will commit felony election fraud using there much higher skill set.
When 25% of the population doesn’t know the Earth orbits the Sun, when a significant number of ‘educated’ people can’t find the US on a map. When a large part of the electorate doesn’t even know the basics of how the Constitution says the government is supposed to work....

THIS COUNTRY IS TOAST.
If you’re educated and smart enough and live in an urban or suburban setting. FLEE.
Reading all of the blogs, etc. I suspect if all of the people who deserve to be saved gathered in one spot, you could buy a dozen donuts for the group and there would be a few left over.


35 posted on 03/05/2014 6:23:02 AM PST by jim999
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To: JRandomFreeper

2014 Primary Results:

Cornhole 778,912
Not Cornhole 531,351


36 posted on 03/05/2014 6:23:23 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: JRandomFreeper

Primary Results Comparison:

Cornhole 2008: 994,222
Cornhole 2014: 778,912

Voters Lost by Cornhole in 2014 vs 2008: 215,310

Cornhole Lost 21.7% of his previous primary voters


37 posted on 03/05/2014 6:27:48 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: JRandomFreeper

He only won the primary by 9%

4.5% change to another would have swung it

Does anyone here have VOTE TALLY? (actual numbers)


38 posted on 03/05/2014 6:28:58 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: jimbo123
Yep. He certainly didn't 'crush' anything, as Politico was trying to spin last night.

/johnny

39 posted on 03/05/2014 6:29:28 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mr. K
See post #36.

/johnny

40 posted on 03/05/2014 6:30:15 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jimbo123
That's with an approximate 7% Dem crossover because of the open primary.

/johnny

41 posted on 03/05/2014 6:30:59 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Nextrush

Overall I’m a bit disappointed but not dejected. Cornyn escaped but the rest of the ballot wasn’t too bad. Dewhurst is in trouble, the Cruz judicial slate won, the rest of the statewide runoffs offer decent choices. I’m aggravated that Geo Pee coasted into his first political job.

Joe Straus kept his seat but maybe is losing his grip on the Speakership. Several of his House supporters retired and four others - Ratliff, Brown, Gooden and Patrick - got thrown out. Maybe that scares enough of the rest that they will quake in fear of the voter rather than of Straus and we can replace him.

I’m pretty happy with my county and local results.

All in all not bad as elections go. On to the next fight.


42 posted on 03/05/2014 6:32:09 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Mr. K

https://team1.sos.state.tx.us/enr/results/mar04_169_state.htm?x=0&y=200&id=196


43 posted on 03/05/2014 6:32:16 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: JRandomFreeper

Y’all are being too hard on Cornyn. He is the second most conservative member of the Senate. He told me so!


44 posted on 03/05/2014 6:43:51 AM PST by Jraider
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To: Nextrush

The bottomline here is that good candidates win and bad candidates lose and ideaology often plays 2nd fiddle.

That is how Mary Landrieu wins in Louisiana and Susan Collins wins in Maine.


45 posted on 03/05/2014 6:45:58 AM PST by staytrue
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To: Mr. K

Well, the city of Houston was in a bit of an “ice storm” yesterday. I think this accounts for low voter turnout. I knew it would.

Low turnout ALWAYS helps the socialists, whether they be dems or repubs... ALWAYS. High turnout is good for conservatives.

The weather simply didn’t help us yesterday.


46 posted on 03/05/2014 6:47:58 AM PST by DrewsMum
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To: Paine in the Neck
Nice synopsis. I was happy to see Rinaldi beat Ratliff, who survived Ratliff's machinations in redrawing the lines.

You made a great point in pointing out the "Cruz judicial slate". As we've seen recently, there are more battles coming on social issues, and conservative judges are needed. For example, a judge can't just toss aside the Texas Constitution when DOMA remains "The Law of the Land."

47 posted on 03/05/2014 6:48:02 AM PST by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Jraider
Y’all are being too hard on Cornyn. He is the second most conservative member of the Senate. He told me so!

Was that before or after he voted for cloture on raising the debt ceiling? ...snicker.

48 posted on 03/05/2014 6:49:10 AM PST by Night Hides Not (For every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I can endure 2-3 "unviable" candidates that beat incumbents.)
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To: Nextrush

The situation in America isn’t going to be fixed via elections.

That is all.


49 posted on 03/05/2014 6:54:57 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Mr. K

“Your votes and effort could have made a loust 9% difference”

WRONG, it was about 18 points.

Cornyn won 59 out of every 100 votes.

If 9 percent more went to the polls and all voted against Cornyn then Cornyn would win with 59 out of 109 votes or still more than 50%.

IF 18 percent more went to the polls and all voted against Cornyn then Cornyn wins with 59 out of 118. Then that would have forced a run off.


50 posted on 03/05/2014 6:55:51 AM PST by staytrue
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