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A message being sent to Obama. He is being reminded that this isn't a little country like Libya or Syria he's dealing with.

Retaliatory sanctions would harm Germany and the UK greatly. Several US Companies have significant assets in Russia, too.

1 posted on 03/05/2014 10:19:17 AM PST by tcrlaf
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Zer0, “Curses, foiled again!”

2 posted on 03/05/2014 10:24:39 AM PST by Vinnie
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and then of course, there is China, which is standing by Putin ....

3 posted on 03/05/2014 10:24:47 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Of course Russia would confiscate all foreign holdings within Russia, duh. The reason that Great Britain has refused to participate is to protect BP. BP runs the British government.

4 posted on 03/05/2014 10:26:15 AM PST by Eva
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I’m not sure about this. I think it’s highly unlikely.

5 posted on 03/05/2014 10:28:23 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Wasn’t it Kerry who said a couple of days ago that “climate change” was our greatest threat? Does he now see how utterly STOOOOPID he now looks? Between Obama, Kerry, and Hagel the Facists are playing the Marxists like a violin.

7 posted on 03/05/2014 10:34:37 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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I bet “O” never thought that ‘D’ in Geography was going to matter! (OR the ‘F’ in economics....etc.)

9 posted on 03/05/2014 10:43:06 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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I am waiting for the Ruskies to shut down our space program over this since we don't have a current or planned launch system which does not depend on the Russians (i.e. rocket motors).

??? WTF ???

10 posted on 03/05/2014 10:49:27 AM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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If you have assets in Russia, you might want to get them out now.

11 posted on 03/05/2014 10:49:28 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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And meanwhile the US is giving the Ukraine a billion dollars which will pay Russia for the gas Ukraine needs, at market value?

Mygosh, Russia's going to profit from US get-tough decisions.

Then there's the matter of Russia's wealthy class. Who benefits if they stop spending their money on US things?

14 posted on 03/05/2014 10:56:53 AM PST by grania
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Another chess move by the Russian government. These are not times for Amateurs. I’m saying that the US should not be beating its chest and assume any moral authority for situations overseas. These are times for behind the scenes deliberations. Of course, when your counterpart won’t take your calls as in Hagel, well, the writing is on the wall.
Many believe we should avoid foreign entanglements, including myself. It is very difficult to know who all the players are. But standards should be upheld by a coalition of civilized nations. Wait and see who joins us in not going to the G8 meeting. That will tell you what our standing has become.

15 posted on 03/05/2014 10:57:52 AM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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Both sides are being unrealistic. If Russia seizes assets how difficult will it be to get foreigners to invest in Russia after this is all over? And, on our side, we really need Russian help to prevent nukes from getting out of the Middle East and being shipped to he US. They have assets we don’t and can’t get.

So, what should we do? Well, the number one thing we can do to earn the world’s respect is replace Obama and the ridiculous changes he’s made in the military. Then, we need an alpha male (or female) president who blusters around pretending to be a lose cannon. Perhaps if he pronounces it nu-cular it will scare them. It certainly scared the Democrats.

17 posted on 03/05/2014 11:27:06 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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The second Cold War, although the first one never really stopped except for our side.

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20 posted on 03/05/2014 6:03:58 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Russia to set up missile shield for Iran

Putin: Russia Building Nuclear Weapon U.S. Won't Have

Russia says new Topol RS-12 mobile ICBM can evade U.S. missile defense

S. Korean Lawmaker, “Russia might have given N. Korea know-how of miniature nukes”

WikiLeaks: North Korea Shipped 19 Advanced Nuclear-Capable Missiles to Tehran

North Korea Tests 'Super-EMP' Nuke
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, 16 Jun 2011 09:05 AM | Ken Timmerman
"North Korea’s nuclear tests have been dismissed as failures by some analysts because of their low explosive yield. But Dr. Pry believes they bore the “signature” of the Russian-designed “super-EMP” weapon, capable of emitting more gamma radiation than a 25-megaton nuclear weapon. "

Georgia Seeks U.N. Security Council Session About Missile
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"No one was injured by the missile, which struck on Monday evening near Tsitelubani, a village about 30 miles from Tbilisi, the Georgian capital. The missile broke apart on impact, but did not explode. The Georgian military later detonated the missile."

China and Russia Call for U.S. Withdrawal in Central Asia

US TOLD TO LEAVE CENTRAL ASIA [Russia & China demand "deadline."]

Vladimir Putin Justifies His Trust in Islam Karimov (Uzbekistan)">

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Putin: 'Israel's nuclear weapons just make it a target'

Russians Respect Reason For Terrorism

21 posted on 03/05/2014 6:11:38 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Another reason to get the Keystone Pipeline signed into reality. Republicans, if they had any guts, brains or balls, could and should make this an immediate priority project, and hammer on it through the upcoming elections.

Also, a good reason to demand that Obama and whoever is the current Secy of the Interior, open up Govt owned lands for energy exploration, immediately.

Restrict the EPA from expanding any of their powers, NOW. Reign in this rogue agency and clean house of the leftsts who run it.

The same for Health and Human Services, too. Sebelius is a lunatic.

Also, speed up any nuclear facility applications.

Revive our space vehicles program, ASAP and get rid of Holden or whoever is the NASA clown that is ruining it.

Prohibit Russian investments in any American company or subsidiary. Freeze all their assets.

Reduce their KGB-loaded diplomatic and business presence in the US (I know it is the FSB or something like that, but KGB has an identifiable meaning to the average citizen).

Release all OLD CLASSIFIED FILES ON SOVIET OPERATIONS IN THE US, ESP. INSIDE OF CONGRESS, SAY FROM 1934 (DICKSTEIN) TO 2000, including the Stanley Levison/Jack O’Dell files re Martin Luther King, Jr., the KGB agents who sandwiched Albert Einstein, and Soviet operatives in the US Congress (Bella Abzug, John Conyers Jr., and others).

Release all documents of Sen. Ted Kennedy’s illegal contacts with the Soviets.

Release all documents relating to Soviet operations and assets involved with Barack Hussein Obama, his father, Frank Marshall Davis (re Soviet agents Harry Bridges and Paul Robeson), and the Canter Family of Chicago. THOSE WOULD BE ENOUGH TO GET OBAMA IMPEACHED AND JAILED FOR TREASON.

[The FBI has those files but the question is whether they have destroyed any of them or not. Given our recent Bureau leadership, I’m worried, real worried about them being safe].

Let the citizens of the US (and the world) see what the Soviets/Russians have been doing to us since the 1930’s. Every history book used in high schools and colleges will have to be revised, and a lot of red professors will have their reputations and careers exposed or destroyed.

There are going to be some very interesting surprises if this is done.

I feel that Whitaker Chambers and Elizabeth Bentley only exposed some of the Soviet MKVD/KGB operations inside the US government and related organizations. There is some evidence that at least two more Soviet spy rings existed within the atomic bomb program and/or afterwards (according to the late FBI agent Herb Philbrick and others).

Then we plan to do the same for Red Chinese operations and operatives, both Chinese and American, in the US. Might nail a congresswoman in the process. And clean out Red operations in NYC’s Chinatown and S.F.

Also, we should expose Red Chinese infiltration and virtual takeovers of some of the Pacific islands including Fiji and Tonga, among others.

What you don’t know can kill you.

Thank New Zealand researcher Trevor Loudon and his team for bringing some of this to light, esp. the Soviet agents who destroyed New Zealand-ANZAC alliances in the 1980’s.

Welcome to the wonderful world of subversion and economic warfare. Brought to you by the sheer subversion of marxist Obama and his commies against the US.

And remember, 51% of the US electorate voted this traitor in. Now we are reaping his treason, all for some EBT cards and gay marriage rights.

22 posted on 03/05/2014 7:18:17 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: tcrlaf; SunkenCiv; Tailgunner Joe; nuconvert; gandalftb

The Russian export in 2012 was $524,564,991,000.
Top ten breakdown:
Mineral fuels including oil: $375,423,947,000 (71.6% of total exports)
Iron and steel: $22,601,664,000 (4.3%)
Fertilizers: $11,176,846,000 (2.1%)
Inorganic chemicals: $7,835,699,000 (1.5%)
Machinery: $7,609,061,000 (1.5%)
Aluminum: $7,281,329,000 (1.4%)
Wood: $6,731,569,000 (1.3%)
Cereals: $6,246,547,000 (1.2%)
Copper: $5,787,339,000 (1.1%)
Organic chemicals: $4,516,890,000 (0.9%)

This is a typical third world export mix heavily dependent on raw materials.

Compare this to South Korea with a total export of $548.8 billion in 2012 (i.e. larger than Russia)
Top ten breakdown:
Electronic equipment: $119,084,386,000 (21.7% of total exports)
Vehicles: $70,074,094,000 (12.8%)
Machinery: $58,979,883,000 (10.8%)
Mineral fuels including oil: $57,492,603,000 (10.5%)
Ships, boats and other floating structures: $37,828,429,000 (6.9%)
Optical, technical and medical apparatus: $37,611,611,000 (6.9%)
Plastics: $28,381,150,000 (5.2%)
Iron and steel: $25,375,017,000 (4.6%)
Organic chemicals: $23,284,736,000 (4.3%)
Iron or steel products: $12,467,431,000 (2.3%)

The Russians do not know(?) that their export, without the raw materials, is only in the order of $50 billion !

25 posted on 03/05/2014 11:26:03 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Well.......just like I've already said about china, US companies should not be there...They are screwing us every chance they get.
26 posted on 03/05/2014 11:29:05 PM PST by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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You got to have a death wish to do business in Russia anyhow. They don’t exactly play by the rules.

29 posted on 03/06/2014 9:14:35 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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