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Bachmann Says US Jews are Selling Out Israel
Arutz Sheva ^ | 3/5/14 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 03/05/2014 11:37:04 AM PST by Oliviaforever

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann Bachmann has accused American Jews of having “sold out Israel” by voting for President Obama in 2008 and 2012.

“The Jewish community gave him their votes, their support, their financial support,” Bachmann told Tony Perkins on the Family Research Center's radio channel, “and as recently as last week, 48 Jewish donors who are big contributors to the president wrote a letter...to the Democrat [sic] senators in the U.S. Senate to tell them to not advance sanctions against Iran.”

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Michele Bachmann is again making a point that other Republicans are afraid to make.
1 posted on 03/05/2014 11:37:04 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

This Israeli considers her correct.

But I do agree it is not constructive to state this (even though it is obviously true). Her statements will be twisted around and make her look stupid.


2 posted on 03/05/2014 11:38:50 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Oliviaforever

“Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann Bachmann has accused American Jews of having “sold out Israel” by voting for President Obama in 2008 and 2012.

She’s right...


3 posted on 03/05/2014 11:39:13 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Oliviaforever

Secular liberal Jews here have been doing this for a long time. Certainly no reason to trust them.


4 posted on 03/05/2014 11:39:24 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Oliviaforever

She’s right but its not new. They have been doing it forever. As an Irish Catholic I care more about Israel than my Jewish friends do.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 11:40:26 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Oliviaforever

True American Patriots in service to Almighty God


6 posted on 03/05/2014 11:43:14 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Oliviaforever

She is 100% right. She is also 100% about the be eviscerated by the media and those 48 self-hating JINO traitors.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 11:43:33 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

The truth hurts


8 posted on 03/05/2014 11:46:21 AM PST by edcoil (Realism is only a socially accepted form of pessimism)
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To: Jewbacca

The Truth will make you free.


9 posted on 03/05/2014 11:48:07 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Jewbacca

Yup.

Being right just isn’t enough in the modern world.


10 posted on 03/05/2014 11:48:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: montag813
It has happened through out history not just Obama to be fair. The current Democratic even in the US backs Palestinians against Jews in Colleges all over the US just as in Europe yet until these Rich Liberal American Jews are attacked they will vote and support Obama.
11 posted on 03/05/2014 11:49:10 AM PST by scooby321
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To: scooby321

Rushing to dhimmitude.


12 posted on 03/05/2014 11:52:29 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Jewbacca
Every now and then the truth should be spoken plainly. The next three years are going to be very dangerous for Israel. My prayer are with you.
13 posted on 03/05/2014 11:53:47 AM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Jewbacca

Michele Bachmann is a 100% Tea Party conservative who is not afraid to speak her mind. She spoke well. She will never cower before the disgusting New York media who are becoming more and more irrelevant as they lose readers and viewers year over year.

Americans are very supportive of Tea Party conservatives who ‘make the grade’, e.g. Ted Cruz versus those who don’t, e.g. Stockman. It’s a political movement that is growing. The twisters and liars in NY are not growing, they are in decline.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 11:56:42 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Jewbacca

It’s the same twist on a different issue.

Example:

Joe: We want a conservative presidential candidate.

Tom: Yeah, like Sarah Palin!

Joe: No, they will ridicule her and make fun of her.

But see...”they” will do that with EVERY conservative candidate. And then the same people wonder why they end up with a RINO.


15 posted on 03/05/2014 12:00:08 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Oliviaforever

She’s right, there are two types of American Jews, the ones that you see on the Chabad Telethons, they vote Republican..but most of the others, they say they are Pro Israel, but when it all comes down to it, they will vote Democrat because they favor abortion. My Mom has four Jewish friends she has known for about 10 years now, all supposedly support Israel, all vote Democrat..she saw them last week, they were all saying how they love Obamacare and that Republicans want to take away a woman’s “Right to an abortion” these are the types of Jews that will sell out Israel in a New York minute if it came to abortion vs Israeli support


16 posted on 03/05/2014 12:04:43 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Jewbacca

Mincing around the issue does even less to help.

Still, you’re right. All I can say is that if Jews want to play stupid games, they’re going to win stupid prizes.

Again.


17 posted on 03/05/2014 12:04:59 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Oliviaforever

Not ALL American Jews are self-hating victims of Jewish Suicide Syndrome, but a considerable number are...

Michelle is correct.
And, it is taking all the good Christians to defend Israel from the Obama/Kerry pro-IslamoNazi policy “initiatives”
now


18 posted on 03/05/2014 12:08:12 PM PST by faithhopecharity (" uri)
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To: NorthMountain

Being right is not enough sometimes.

There is a manner and means of saying hard truths like this.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 12:08:44 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Oliviaforever

Before Obama unilaterally lifted sanctions against Iran a few months ago, which resulted in a multi-billion-dollar windfall for the Iranian government, Iran’s economy was struggling.

Now we’ve just learned that the Iranian government is so flush with cash, thanks to Obama’s largesse, it was able to fund a major shipment of arms to Hamas to use against Israelis.

This means that if the arms shipment hadn’t fortunately been stopped before it reached Hamas, Obama and his liberal Jewish friends who have supported the lifting of Iranian sanctions, would have been responsible for the deaths of Israelis by Hamas rockets supplied by Iran.

It’s one thing to refuse to invest in Israeli companies and to boycott Israeli products, but for American Jews to be aiding and abetting the killing of their fellow Jews in Israel by approving the rewarding of Iran with billions of dollars to fund Hamas’s goal of destroying Israel, a new era has been entered — one of the worst in the 4000-year history of Judaism.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 12:10:14 PM PST by Bluestocking
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To: Jewbacca

OK ... I just re-read the article.

Twice.

She’s right on all counts.

This isn’t even a “hard truth”. It’s a simple truth, stated plainly. Anyone who finds it “hard” needs to look in the mirror to locate the problem.


21 posted on 03/05/2014 12:12:38 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: re_nortex
True American Patriots in service to Almighty God

Not to mention two of the most attractive women in my age group.


22 posted on 03/05/2014 12:13:57 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Bluestocking

and so are the Haredi who live off the society and the taxpayers of Israel who provide so much. Would they come out of their shuls if Arab forces entered Jerusalem? They are as much to blame as liberal/socialist American Jews.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 12:14:06 PM PST by brooklyn dave
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To: NorthMountain

“This isn’t even a “hard truth”. It’s a simple truth, stated plainly.”

I think the language barrier is keeping me from explaining.

Suppose your wife asks “does this dress make my ass look fat?”

How do you answer?

Well, the same finesse is required here.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 12:15:58 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: brooklyn dave

You read too much Haaretz.

I am Haredi and spent most of my adult life flying F-16s.

The pre-Zionist Haredi have really come around and while such freeloaders are an issue, they are mainly just a whipping boy used by a very liberal, securlar, press in Israel to make religious Jewish people look bad.


25 posted on 03/05/2014 12:18:40 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Hostage

“Michele Bachmann is a 100% Tea Party conservative who is not afraid to speak her mind.”

Very true, and I’ve always respected that about her.

Even so, it is amazing how open minded one becomes when one is no longer running for office. This being her last term.


26 posted on 03/05/2014 12:19:11 PM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Jewbacca
“does this dress make my ass look fat?”

I made it very clear to her, very early in our relationship, that I do not play that sort of mind game.

So tell me: what do you think is the problem, here? Who is unable to accept plain truth spoken in plain English.

The problem is not with the truth, ever. The problem is not with Rep. Bachman's plain statement of the truth.

The problem lies elsewhere. Those who are too emotionally unstable to handle the plain spoken truth need to get their act together. Since I'm not clear on whose precious sensibilities are supposedly offended, I can't be more specific than that.

27 posted on 03/05/2014 12:23:00 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Jewbacca

Plenty of people of all stripes have blind spots. Jews are no different.

I remember reading some high praise for Hitler from Jewish academics of the day. That bunch thought he was brilliant and those who worried about antisemitism just didn’t understand his nuances. However its important to note that just as many Protestants, Catholics, Atheists and others were saying the same.

A certain segment of the population is naturally stupid and self destructive without regard for race or religion.


28 posted on 03/05/2014 12:26:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Jewbacca

The truth is the truth. If we cannot speak it freely then we’re screwed anyway.


29 posted on 03/05/2014 12:37:01 PM PST by skeeter
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To: NorthMountain

“The problem lies elsewhere. Those who are too emotionally unstable to handle the plain spoken truth need to get their act together. Since I’m not clear on whose precious sensibilities are supposedly offended, I can’t be more specific than that.”

The problem does lie elsewhere. The American Jews are sensitive to this topic.

The “that dress DOES make your ass look fat” approach does not work on people weaker than your wife.

You have to persuade and let them come to that realization on their own.

As an Israeli, I get asked about American politics from American Jews almost daily and certainly weekly.

I tend to shrug in a knowing fashion that conveys a lot.

Or say “his policies are not good for the Jews.”

Or say “he is perceived as weak by the Arabs, which emboldens them.”

Or I ask rhetorical questions they know the answer to.

Even secular American Jewish people and there is a cultural approach that is different from the Anglo-Saxon approach.

It’s like saying something too strongly in Japan. If you do, they assume you are crazy and don’t listen to you.


30 posted on 03/05/2014 12:37:26 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Oliviaforever

American Jews are Liberals first, Democrats second, and Jews third. Most secular American Jews don’t care if Israel is wiped off the face of the Earth.


31 posted on 03/05/2014 12:46:50 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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>> The problem does lie elsewhere. The American Jews are sensitive to this topic.

The "American Jews" need to get their act together. And while I appreciate the compliment to my wife, I must say that you have combined it with an insult to a variety of racial/ethnic minority groups. That insult is, in many respects, deserved.

>> You have to persuade and let them come to that realization on their own.

After more than a generation or two of self-destructive voting behavior, it's quite clear that they're NOT going to come to any worthwhile realization on their own. So "No", I don't have to pussyfoot around their sensibilities. Maybe if more people spoke like Rep. Bachman ... plainly ... then the perpetually offended would come to the realization that the world doesn't revolve around their sensibilities.

>> As an Israeli, I get asked about American politics from American Jews almost daily and certainly weekly.

That's just plain weird. Really. Bizarre beyond belief. The foreigner should be asking the natives about local politics ... not the other way around.

>> It’s like saying something too strongly in Japan.

When in Rome ... (or Japan, or Israel, or wherever) ... This is America.

Oh, yes: We beat the Iroquois fair and square ... so it's not "Iroquois Territory". It's America. Just so's you know.

32 posted on 03/05/2014 1:13:04 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Jewbacca
This Israeli considers her correct. But I do agree it is not constructive to state this (even though it is obviously true). Her statements will be twisted around and make her look stupid.

You are correct, Reform Jews ( of which I am close too ) will brand her as a tea-party nut etc etc.

IMHO she would have been better off to have been invited to a Reform Temple for services and have an open forum with the members in an Oneg afterwards, and explain her position and not condemn ( which is in a way what she did ) but make a case like Lady Thatcher did as to how Israel is being treated by Obama as to build the bridge of support with the Reform Community rather than burn one.

I am not impressed, I have personally spent a great deal of time and making my case without rancor to win support with the Reform Community as to allow them to have an "ah-ha moment" on their own, and she just blew it. Thanks a lot MB....

33 posted on 03/05/2014 1:17:57 PM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Jewbacca

“How do you answer?”

No, honey, not at all! - (unspoken: it’s not the dress ...)


34 posted on 03/05/2014 1:19:36 PM PST by Daffy
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To: Oliviaforever

Any Jew that votes liberal should be considered to be beneath even a Imam...because they are directly aiding those slime.


35 posted on 03/05/2014 1:35:37 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Jewbacca

Iran is conceivably months away from blowing Israel off the face of the earth.

You’re talking finesse. And making jokes about fat asses.


36 posted on 03/05/2014 1:41:29 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: NorthMountain

“Oh, yes: We beat the Iroquois fair and square ... so it’s not “Iroquois Territory”. It’s America. Just so’s you know.”

Yes, I know. That’s actually the point.

It’s a quote of Israeli Government Press Director Daniel Seamen mocking Hillary Clinton:

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http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2009/06/iroquois-territory-occupiers-tell-jews.html

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s press spokesman was asked whether the demand to halt all building (including schools, kindergartens and housing for young couples) in Judea and Samaria included all building in Jerusalem.
Ms. Clinton’s press spokesman was asked if President Obama’s demand to halt expansion of “West Bank Jewish communities” included a demand to stop expansion of Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem.

The answer was affirmative. The U.S. State Department demands that Israel limit Jewish growth in these areas of Jerusalem, “whose status remains to be determined” in negotiations.

Israeli Government Press Director Daniel Seamen reacted to this Obama administration statement by saying: “I have to admire the residents of Iroquois territory for assuming that they have a right to determine where Jews should live in Jerusalem.”


37 posted on 03/05/2014 2:02:08 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: taildragger

“IMHO she would have been better off to have been invited to a Reform Temple for services and have an open forum with the members in an Oneg afterwards, and explain her position and not condemn ( which is in a way what she did ) but make a case like Lady Thatcher did as to how Israel is being treated by Obama as to build the bridge of support with the Reform Community rather than burn one.”

No, no, no.

You have to call people stupid idiots to persuade them. Preferably at the top of you lungs.

Haven’t you learned anything in this thread?


38 posted on 03/05/2014 2:04:01 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Fightin Whitey

” And making jokes about fat asses.”

A Jewish guy laughing in the face of death? Never happens. We’re a humorless people.


39 posted on 03/05/2014 2:05:57 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca
>> mocking Hillary Clinton:

Thanks ... that makes a bit of sense out of the comment. "Hillary!" is an ass ... with apologies to actual donkeys, which are kind, gentle, and useful beasts. Barry Benghazi's entire regime does everything it can to damage America and our allies.

40 posted on 03/05/2014 2:54:29 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Jewbacca

How am I supposed to respond? By telling you that you don’t know history? Telling you that you are not laughing in the face of death right now, you are laughing in the shadow of those who have died before you?

You know your people and past and yourself much, much better than I do.

Let me speak simply as an American. In my lifetime my country has finessed and forgotten and forgiven itself into its present, perhaps irredeemable, state.

Even here on Free Republic we don’t seem to know how to rouse our compatriots for the great battles ahead.

What I do know is that as fighters we want to laugh at death and evil, not with it.


41 posted on 03/05/2014 4:55:57 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Oliviaforever

I wonder how she would respond to an American Jew who asserts that she sells out Christianity. Or that she is a self-hating Norweigen because she opposes Norweigen social welfare policies.


42 posted on 03/05/2014 5:08:26 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: Oliviaforever

She’s right.


43 posted on 03/05/2014 5:10:36 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I like Michelle but disagree with her here. Her position is based on the canard that Jews care about Jews, and are separate from the nation they live in. The fact of the matter is that most Jews vote on other issues which relate to their homeland, and that's not Israel. As a demographic American Jews tend to be liberal on domestic issues, and it's fair to say as the demographic most opposed to the Iraq war (I know, us neocon Jews caused it, but we're a minority in the community), they wouldn't support aggressive actions on the part of Israel any more than America. We can all talk this out, after all. Of course as a small minority, if America "sells out" Israel (Israel will cope), it will be America doing it, all of us, mostly Christian. My guess Michelle wins no votes for Republicans here

44 posted on 03/05/2014 5:36:35 PM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: Oliviaforever

Well, yeh!


45 posted on 03/05/2014 5:41:46 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: SJackson

It isn’t theirs to sell.


46 posted on 03/05/2014 6:18:07 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: SJackson; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Eleutheria5; rmlew; dennisw; SunkenCiv; Zionist Conspirator; ...
Well, as a right-wing pro-Israel American Jew, I don't take offense to anything Bachmann is saying. Nor is she anti-Semitic nor is she buying into any canard. There's no excuse for the Jewish Left's embrace of Obama, and for its failure to realize that he had anti-Semitic as well as anti-Israel proclivities from his upbringing as a leftist radical, in addition to his friendships with Islamist radicals, all deeply ingrained in his ideology and experience. For many Jewish voters to be uneducated or blind to his history, plus the tyrannical changes he's bringing about in the US and his foreign policy disasters, is shameful.

Bachmann, on the other hand, had an extensive exposure to Israel as a teenager, and has always been pro-Israel and philo-Semitic. Her husband comes from a Swiss family which saved Jews from the Nazis during the Holocaust. Sorry to see she's stepping down from elective office now.

BTW, the headline on the posted article is deceiving. Bachmann didn't say all US Jews are selling out Israel. She was limiting her critique to Jewish Obamatons.

47 posted on 03/05/2014 6:23:57 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

It’s accurate that they would sell out Israel, if they could. But they cannot sell Israel, because they don’t own it, and Israel’s support in the US is not dependent on American Jews, even if they did own it. These are the people who were ok with turning back the boats.


48 posted on 03/05/2014 6:33:59 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Jewbacca

What is wrong with calling a capo a capo?


49 posted on 03/05/2014 6:36:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SJackson
My guess Michelle wins no votes for Republicans here

Yet the greater her Honor, and I believe, her reward in Heaven.

50 posted on 03/05/2014 7:50:01 PM PST by onedoug
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