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IRS: Obamacare Cheapest Plan $20,000 Per Family in 2016
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Posted on 03/05/2014 11:58:45 AM PST by kcvl

(CNSNews.com) – In a final regulation issued Wednesday, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) assumed that under Obamacare the cheapest health insurance plan available in 2016 for a family will cost $20,000 for the year.

Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS. The IRS's assumption that the cheapest plan for a family will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan. The examples point to families of four and families of five, both of which the IRS expects in its assumptions to pay a minimum of $20,000 per year for a bronze plan. “The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000,” the regulation says.

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1 posted on 03/05/2014 11:58:45 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Lucky thing they won't have to pay the penalty until next year.

If they had to pay it this year they might decide to stop voting for Democrats too soon for it all to be irreversible.

2 posted on 03/05/2014 12:01:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: kcvl

Sounds like it just came out. So I guess people will have to pay their rent and mortgage, and their health insurance, and then the money will be gone. No need for food, utilities, clothing, transportation, etc. But it’s all good, because they all had “junk” plans before.


3 posted on 03/05/2014 12:02:00 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: kcvl

This will NEVER happen. Most American families live paycheck to paycheck.


4 posted on 03/05/2014 12:02:03 PM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

I predict less paychecks


5 posted on 03/05/2014 12:03:34 PM PST by Sybeck1
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To: kcvl

Articles containing this gem have appeared several times on FR. This 20k won’t be going into retirement plans or cars or durable goods. It will utterly destroy the home market. According to my Google search 75% of all income earners are living paycheck to paycheck. So, they can’t afford anything more than they’re buying right now. That is the plan’s true Achilles heal.


6 posted on 03/05/2014 12:03:38 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: kcvl

But on the bright side, every member of the family will have their abortions covered.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 12:05:37 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: kcvl

Look on the bright side, Comrade.

Democrat crony’s are going to get FILTHY STINKING RICH, Media will play along, or they won’t get any propaganda ad money, and all of those SEIU/OFA Orgs are going to have millions to plow into Democrat Campaigns!

And after all, aren’t financing Corrupt Socialist Dem campaigns all that really matters?


8 posted on 03/05/2014 12:07:35 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: kcvl
Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS.

Come and take it!

F U B O!

9 posted on 03/05/2014 12:07:47 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: kcvl

I will not comply. You hear that John Roberts?


10 posted on 03/05/2014 12:08:02 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: kcvl

If that is the case, then they won’t have to buy a plan. If the cheapest plan if more than 8% of your AGI, you are exempt from the penalty.


11 posted on 03/05/2014 12:08:22 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Gen.Blather

It’s not the Achilles Heal. It’s been the PLAN from the beginning.

Can’t pay the high premiums? Fine, we have a alternative for you. Payroll deductions. They will force you to comply with a government tax for healthcare you will get at the local Government run Clinic, with Imported Doctors working for Dr. Sugar.

You’ve got to remember, Most will look to the Government to fix this. They don’t have the capacity to figure out who caused the problem to begin with.


12 posted on 03/05/2014 12:09:20 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

this


13 posted on 03/05/2014 12:10:23 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: kcvl

No wonder they want to boost the minimum wage...


14 posted on 03/05/2014 12:10:51 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Ah grasshopper, you have learned much...


15 posted on 03/05/2014 12:11:35 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: kcvl

NOBODY has this kind of extra money.

This whole Obamacare fiasco is so completely out of bounds of reality, I can’t help but see it as designed to fail as massively as possible no matter how people try to comply. I just don’t believe we’re seeing incompetence - instead, I think we’re seeing incompetence being used as a cover for treason. Obamacare IS Cloward–Piven right in everyone’s face. It’s not just designed to deny medical care, but to also make criminals out of everyone and destroy the medical insurance field in its totality. All three together are designed to cripple the country. And that’s only ONE of the plays these Rat bastards are running right now. On top of that they’re starting to kick in doors of family homes with military personnel looking for guns, as well as close down all of the energy producing sources in the country in the name of a gross rape of science.

And people care about the freaking Oscars?


16 posted on 03/05/2014 12:11:42 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: kcvl
Today, I think the House voted on the Obamacare TAX penalty amount:

$0.00

LOL!

17 posted on 03/05/2014 12:12:03 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: kcvl

Date on the article was back in January, we must have all missed it I guess.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 12:12:13 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: kcvl

the elite media is not including the deductable in the calculus. It is in essence the same as not having insurance.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 12:13:39 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: kcvl

Before Obamacare I couldn’t afford health insurance.

Now I still can’t afford health insurance but now I have to pay a fine for not beign able to afford it.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 12:14:02 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: kcvl

I’d say that 20K in 2016 will reach “Cadillac” proportions in 2018. $10.2K for singles and $27.5K for families in 2018 is the treshold then you get hit with the 40% excise tax.


21 posted on 03/05/2014 12:14:50 PM PST by WinMod70
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To: Talisker
The average income in America is now what 45-55k. Yeah, we can all afford to pay 20k+ for healthcare. I have a solution... Let's invite 25+ million low skilled, poorly educated people and their families into this country and give them all FREE care, education, housing, food.

That right there will fix this proper like! /s

22 posted on 03/05/2014 12:14:56 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: VRWCarea51

Hard to make parole deductions when nobody’s working. Due to government regulations most of us will be like the old Soviets, standing on a street corner with a toolbox and a sign reading, “Plumbing for cash.”


23 posted on 03/05/2014 12:15:42 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

Once you subtract my rent, this insurance plan (we have 3 kids), and our tithe we’re left with 251/month. That won’t even cover the electric bill which will continue to rise with the war on coal. In my last post I wrote, “I will not comply.” And while that was a statement of defiance against tyranny, really it’s just saying I can’t afford to comply.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 12:17:09 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: kcvl

Thanks for this heads up on Obama Socialized Health Insurance Tax, affectionally called “OSHIT.”


25 posted on 03/05/2014 12:18:21 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: NEMDF

And the Rats are freeing them by liberating the people of all those pesky decisions about how to spend their money. See how free you will be?


26 posted on 03/05/2014 12:24:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

And don’t forget free gender reassignment surgery and hormone therapy.


27 posted on 03/05/2014 12:25:43 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: kcvl

Anyone who votes democrat is an absolute raving maniac.


28 posted on 03/05/2014 12:27:04 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: kcvl
But the same plan,without Osama Obama Care,would have been $22,500.We know this because Osama Obama is never mistaken.

And we know that he never lies.

29 posted on 03/05/2014 12:27:20 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: kcvl

I’ve heard this.

So $1666.66 per month, sure thats “affordable”

The incentive is not to work and have someone else pick up the bill. When no one is working whose going to pick up the bill. Who can save?


30 posted on 03/05/2014 12:27:47 PM PST by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: Talisker

The plan is to put everyone who can’t afford $20k for insurance on socialized medicine.


31 posted on 03/05/2014 12:27:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

That is fine if you can’t afford the insurance, but what do you do if you get in an accident or suffer a catostrophic illness?


32 posted on 03/05/2014 12:29:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: kcvl

Which companies do I invest in to make money off of Obamacare? Somewhere somembody is going to make a great return?


33 posted on 03/05/2014 12:32:05 PM PST by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: kcvl

NOT for the EXEMPT Congress, their staff,
or any Moslem, of course.


34 posted on 03/05/2014 12:34:13 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Blood of Tyrants; All
"That is fine if you can’t afford the insurance,
but what do you do if you get in an accident
or suffer a catostrophic illness?"



35 posted on 03/05/2014 12:34:54 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: kcvl

Obamacare isn’t about Healthcare.

It’s a poorly designed scam to vaguely disguise the biggest wealth redistribution in the known history of the world.


36 posted on 03/05/2014 12:35:15 PM PST by Iron Munro (Albert Einstein: The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You’ll get emergent care for the accident (and a huge bill), but a long, drawn-out illness will be a real problem.


37 posted on 03/05/2014 12:35:17 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Iron Munro

ObamaCARE, like RomneyCARE, was designed by
people who actually hate Americans and doctors/nurses.


38 posted on 03/05/2014 12:36:47 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: kcvl


39 posted on 03/05/2014 12:37:56 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: longtermmemmory

Exactly. A bronze plan has a VERY high deductible. Enough that there is no way the average family could afford it.


40 posted on 03/05/2014 12:41:54 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: kcvl

Just how much birth control and how many abortions does that cover!


41 posted on 03/05/2014 12:42:31 PM PST by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: demshateGod
Hate to add to your (and mine and everyone else's) misery, but this is just $20,000 for the PREMIUMS. Add in your copays (higher), and your much higher deductibles, I'm guessing medical costs could be $30,000+ a year for some families.
42 posted on 03/05/2014 12:43:23 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: steve86

The plan is to make insurance so high that only the very wealthy can afford it. Then when the people cry out, the Rats will come out with a “solution”. That solution will be socialized medicine.


43 posted on 03/05/2014 12:45:15 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: kcvl

This farce health care will be in a shambles by the end of 2014. Paperwork for medical billings is already falling apart.


44 posted on 03/05/2014 12:45:42 PM PST by jetson
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To: kcvl

This is much more disturbing when you think about the many millions that are getting totally free Medicaid, at $20,000.00 a pop..

You had better get a 2nd, and 3rd job so they can live a healthier life, longer.. yep


45 posted on 03/05/2014 12:46:49 PM PST by carlo3b (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.. Henry Kissinger)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“The plan is to put everyone who can’t afford $20k for insurance on socialized medicine.”

Called Medicaid!


46 posted on 03/05/2014 12:47:10 PM PST by kcvl
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To: 21twelve

Wouldn’t matter if it were 30,000,000.


47 posted on 03/05/2014 12:47:48 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: kcvl; Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; Voter#537; ..

The Ophonybama Administration may become the best FairTax salesman yet!

Just like the Ophonybama Administration became the best guns ‘n ammo salesman yet!

Somehow, someway, we have to use the Ophonybama Administration’s ongoing and continuing assaults on our FReedoms and Liberties to roll the tide back!

Help us restore our FReedoms and Liberties! Help us pass the FAirTax. Go to http://www.fairtax.org to find out how you can help!


48 posted on 03/05/2014 12:53:42 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

I’m on board with the fairtax except for all of that prebate nonsense.


49 posted on 03/05/2014 12:54:54 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: kcvl

This is not just about money.

People have already been essentially state-murdered
by the DNC and ObamaCARE.

And soon there will be a gout of needless deaths
by the state based upon Obama’s lies and Pelosi’s perjury.


50 posted on 03/05/2014 12:55:13 PM PST by Diogenesis
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