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Obama Gives Health Plans Added Two-Year Reprieve
wsj.com ^

Posted on 03/05/2014 1:32:13 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Obama Gives Health Plans Added Two-Year Reprieve Plans That Don't Meet ACA Rules Could Stay in Place Through 2016 By Louise Radnofsky March 5, 2014 4:15 p.m. ET

The Obama administration announced Wednesday that consumers can keep insurance plans that don't comply with the federal health law for another two years, pushing a potential firestorm over cancellations until after midterm elections.

Previously, some consumers could keep insurance plans that didn't comply with the Affordable Care Act until roughly the end of this year, as long as their state regulators and insurance company allowed it.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democratcare; donkeycare; jackasscare
When does it end?
1 posted on 03/05/2014 1:32:13 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

When we do.


2 posted on 03/05/2014 1:33:26 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: Sub-Driver

At some point the insurers are going to start bailing on him.


3 posted on 03/05/2014 1:33:38 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver

2017


4 posted on 03/05/2014 1:33:53 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama is King, he can do whatever he likes.

Just ask anyone in the Mainstream media about this.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 1:34:23 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s all political & nothing to do w/ the American people.


6 posted on 03/05/2014 1:34:48 PM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Sub-Driver

Jah mine Fuhrer! Hiel Obama!


7 posted on 03/05/2014 1:35:50 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Sub-Driver

He has a pen and a microphone, congress is obsolete.


8 posted on 03/05/2014 1:36:59 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Sub-Driver; Howie66; Diogenes

When does it end?

It ends when “Benghazi Coverup” Boehner Impeaches B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of the sovereign Nation of Indonesia.

Until then the Boy-Toy Dictator Soetoro-Obama will be free to do whatever he wants to do.


9 posted on 03/05/2014 1:37:47 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Sub-Driver

If I were an employer or an insurer, and wanted to coordinate with this new animal called Obamacare, I would be very confused and frustrated. Anyway you look at this, it’s a mess that we all see coming. For some, the mess is now at their doorstep, with doctors rejecting their slow payment Government insurance. I guess soon Obama will penalize the doctors for having the temerity to reject O-Care, what he considers as his Crown Jewel, NOT.


10 posted on 03/05/2014 1:38:25 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh please!!!...The he gets his criminal buddies relected and drops his Obama turd on us after the election?...SCREW YOU OBAMA!!!


11 posted on 03/05/2014 1:41:12 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: lee martell

Yes, they must be genuinely confused as to what to do and what’s coming.

I suspect most have already gone down the prior designated road, which cost them a lot of time and money, and they won’t be turning back to reinstate anything.


12 posted on 03/05/2014 1:43:49 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Sub-Driver

My insurer has already hiked his rates on my health insurance.


13 posted on 03/05/2014 1:46:17 PM PST by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“At some point the insurers are going to start bailing on him.”

I thought so too. But, apparently, he has guaranteed they won’t lose any money. What they lose will be made up for by taxpayer subsidies. (That’s my understanding.) The insurers have no motivation not to play along. If not for this guarantee they’d probably have bailed a year ago.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 1:46:17 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

If the GOP takes the Senate this Fall, then Obama’s ability to deliver the promised money to the insurers becomes very tenuous.

THEN you will start to see them bail.
Possibly even before if they lose confidence that he can
actually deliver.


15 posted on 03/05/2014 1:50:05 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Gen.Blather

This is why getting the senate majority next year is critical. All the GOP has to do, with control of both chambers, is zero out funding for the risk corridors and tie it to the debt extension bill.

No risk corridor, no more insurance company participation.

Obama cannot win that fight. The public is 80% w the GOP on the debt limit and the insurance bailout.


16 posted on 03/05/2014 1:51:11 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: Buckeye McFrog
If the GOP takes the Senate this Fall, then Obama’s ability to deliver the promised money to the insurers becomes very tenuous. THEN you will start to see them bail. Possibly even before if they lose confidence that he can actually deliver.

Yes, Praise God, we have a winner. You get it.

17 posted on 03/05/2014 1:52:26 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: Gen.Blather

“I thought so too. But, apparently, he has guaranteed they won’t lose any money. What they lose will be made up for by taxpayer subsidies. (That’s my understanding.) The insurers have no motivation not to play along. If not for this guarantee they’d probably have bailed a year ago.”

And the insurers go along, it seems, because they figure the short term gains are enough to justify the ultimate chloroforming of their industry. Anyone paying attention knows the political class wants a single payer system. That will effectively nuke the health insurance industry.

So, the only reasonable conclusion is those at the top of the health insurance industry feel they’ll be enriched enough that when the health insurance industry is terminated, they’ll be ok.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 1:55:26 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This MONKEYING (yes, I said it) around with the law for political reasons will end right after Nov 2016 at the latest, and probably right after the 2014 elections, because there will be no more elections that affect Obama after that.


19 posted on 03/05/2014 1:58:03 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Graewoulf

Do not hold your breath waiting on Weeper of the House, John Boehner to do his Sworn Duty to support and defend the Constitution. That’s not going to happen.

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

Mr. Boehner (and others in Congress) is guilty of DERELICTION OF DUTY if we are to be at all honest about it.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 1:58:31 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: Gen.Blather; newgeezer
I thought so too. But, apparently, he has guaranteed they won’t lose any money.

So he told them "If you like your money you can keep your money". You'd think those insurance companies would distrust that whole "We rip off the other guy and pass the savings on to you".

I actually saw that on a T shirt once.

21 posted on 03/05/2014 2:00:39 PM PST by DungeonMaster
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To: Sub-Driver

Give the whole thing a two century reprieve.


22 posted on 03/05/2014 2:00:53 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Sub-Driver

2016 slogan. If you want to keep your health insurance you had better vote against Hillary.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 2:01:24 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: brownsfan

“So, the only reasonable conclusion is those at the top of the health insurance industry feel they’ll be enriched enough that when the health insurance industry is terminated, they’ll be ok.”

As we learned from the ill-fated sale of Chrysler to Mercedes the top officer will destroy the company to take home their bonus. The CEO of Chrysler, without whom the sale could not have taken place, made $27,000,000. Who cares about the employees or shareholders?


24 posted on 03/05/2014 2:04:05 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Sub-Driver
The Obama administration announced Wednesday that consumers can keep insurance plans that don't comply with the federal health law for another two years, pushing a potential firestorm over cancellations until after midterm elections.

OH THANK YOU OH GREAT AND BENEVOLENT DICTATOR!

Previously, some consumers could keep insurance plans that didn't comply with the Affordable Care Act until roughly the end of this year, as long as their state regulators and insurance company allowed it.

That word Act is important. That word means an Act of Congress. The power to legislate or change legislation resides with Congress not the president or judges.

Congress should be jealously guarding their constitutionally derived powers but they don’t. They are perfectly happy these days letting the president bulldoze his way through whatever lawfully passed restriction or requirements Congress has enacted.

Sorry folks but we are now in the POST Constitutional America.

25 posted on 03/05/2014 2:06:49 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Gen.Blather

“As we learned from the ill-fated sale of Chrysler to Mercedes the top officer will destroy the company to take home their bonus. The CEO of Chrysler, without whom the sale could not have taken place, made $27,000,000. Who cares about the employees or shareholders?”

As a fan of capitalism, I recognize this as a flaw in the system. I was here for the “free traitor wars”. I was called any number of names as “conservatives” cheered offshoring to China.


26 posted on 03/05/2014 2:09:59 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: MrB
This MONKEYING (yes, I said it) around with the law for political reasons will end right after Nov 2016 at the latest, and probably right after the 2014 elections, because there will be no more elections that affect Obama after that.

I would bet against you on that.

Sure we may win the Senate in 2014 but Obama will be in office until the end of 2016.

Even if we hold the House and the Senate the majority of those office holders are spineless wimps when it comes to the first Black president. They start to waffle and cower as soon as some one mentions the word RACIST.

The Republicans will probably win the presidential election in 2016 simply because Obama will have totally wrecked the economy by then and the people will be thoroughly tired of Democrats.

So with all Congress and the Presidency in Republican hands it is likely that the Republicans will perfectly happy to let the new president have all of the perks that Obama had but this being a Republican president the press will not ignore these abuses as they did with Obama and so the new president will be somewhat more judicious and less blatant in the exercise of these extra-constitutional powers.

27 posted on 03/05/2014 2:21:26 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Sub-Driver
It's ONLY to help Democrats in the mid-terms!!! Geesh, this is the ONLY thing he's been TRANSPARENT about!!

The next President is going to have EXPLODING PILE OF CRAP to deal with....almost makes me want Hillary!! to face the music.

28 posted on 03/05/2014 2:28:26 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Sub-Driver

But this is tax law, he is changing TAX LAW!! Could the next President just eliminate the death tax? the capital gains tax? change the rates? The date that we have to file, say change it to June 1st?


29 posted on 03/05/2014 2:56:46 PM PST by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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To: thirst4truth

Don’t worry, Boehner & crew won’t stand for this!

**crickets**


30 posted on 03/05/2014 3:15:09 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: Howie66

Agreed.

That is why Trey Gowdy needs to replace Boehner as Speaker of the House right after the April 15, 2014 Resignation as Speaker by “Benghazi Cover Up” Boehner.


31 posted on 03/05/2014 4:45:49 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Gen.Blather

“Ill fated sale of Chrysler to Mercedes...” I think you meant to Fiat. Daimler Benz played by the rules and lost their butt when they owned Chrysler, essentially pulling out before 2008.


32 posted on 03/05/2014 4:52:44 PM PST by masadaman
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To: Graewoulf

Personally, I would like to see Louie Gohmert become House Speaker.

I like Trey Gowdy, too.

Then again, Howdy Doody would be a vast improvement over Boehner.


33 posted on 03/05/2014 4:57:17 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: tcrlaf

Shoot...just ask Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy or Paul Ryan.

They are his groomsmen after all.


34 posted on 03/05/2014 4:58:39 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: Howie66

Louis would be great, being from TEXASA and all, but Trey is always steamed about something, and thus truly matches our attitude here in Flyover Country.


35 posted on 03/05/2014 5:00:37 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

You see....not only is Louie Gohmert a TEXAN but he is also a Vet (Captain, US ARMY). I give extra points for being a Vet.


36 posted on 03/05/2014 5:04:10 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: Howie66

Yup.

Thanks for that factoid!

Soetoro-Obama has conclusively proven that anyone running for POTUS in the future MUST have an Honorable Military experience in one or more branches of the US Military.


37 posted on 03/05/2014 5:17:02 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

I am convinced that the huge number of Non-Vets in the Congressional “Leadership” is a real liability. These people have NO ideal what the troops in the field have to deal with.

Don’t get me wrong, I do not believe that being a Vet is mandatory, it just helps in my opinion.

Now for our next POTUS, I would really LOVE to see retired Marine General JAMES MATTIS consider running for POTUS.

I think that current events are a sign that our next C-I-C be prepared to face a very hostile and dangerous world. Someone that will be able to restore our Allies ability to TRUST the USA and at the same time make our Enemies re-establish a very healthy FEAR of the USA.

That means NO BUSH, NO ROMNEY and no more g-damned “community organizers” or “Her Thighness”.


38 posted on 03/05/2014 5:27:42 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: Sub-Driver
When does it end?

When obama gives us at least a permanent reprieve from himself and his minions.

39 posted on 03/05/2014 5:29:47 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Right Wing Assault

I would love to wake up to find that Obama is praying and begging for US to give him a reprieve..........or at least three steps toward the door.


40 posted on 03/05/2014 5:32:25 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: Sub-Driver
If you like your plan you can keep your plan. Period.

For one year. Or two years. Or maybe we will say one year, then switch it back. Or if you are self-employed, you can't. Or if we told the insurance companies to cancel them, then if they want to, they can sell them again. Or.....

41 posted on 03/05/2014 6:23:26 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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