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Military’s top general offers grim outlook on nation’s defense
McClatchy DC ^ | 4 March 2014 | James Rosen

Posted on 03/05/2014 3:32:19 PM PST by SkyPilot

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To: SkyPilot

We need a new top general.


101 posted on 03/06/2014 9:45:46 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: TEARUNNER14
I am thankful that I accepted Jesus Christ for my Lord and Savior. According to what I am understanding, this year starts Gods warning on the world with four blood red moons and we might just have a rapture of the Saints and could be soon.

And I as well my brother/sister.

The first blood moon is April 15th I believe, right at the start of Passover.

Christ told us to watch for the signs of the times. Come, Lord Jesus.

102 posted on 03/06/2014 9:49:11 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

bkmk


103 posted on 03/06/2014 10:04:13 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: kabar

“I think you need to get better informed about the Monroe Doctrine.”

You think it doesn’t apply to the conversation? Why not?

As to the DOS Mission statement, there is nothing in the Constitution that supports that nonsense as stated.

Granted the Monroe Doctrine suffers from the same - but at least it’s more relevant in terms of proximity to the USA.


104 posted on 03/06/2014 11:44:34 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: SkyPilot

So just how expensive is it to lose a war and become a nation of slaves? I fear we are about to find out. God help us!


105 posted on 03/06/2014 1:09:43 PM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: RFEngineer
You think it doesn’t apply to the conversation? Why not?

The Monroe Doctrine drew parameters for an American sphere of influence and served as the justification for the kinds of interventions you seem to disapprove of. We have also had the Truman Doctrine, which helped contain the Soviet Union and communism as well as rebuild war torn Europe. The Bush doctrine embraced preemption as part of the effort to address non-state actor terrorism.

The is no Obama doctrine that puts some coherence to our foreign policy.

As to the DOS Mission statement, there is nothing in the Constitution that supports that nonsense as stated.

Nonsense? We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Do you think we have a foreign policy that does not provide for the common defense, promote the General Welfare and secure the Blessings of Liberty for ourselves and our Posterity? It is in our national interests to have a world where "all human beings deserve lives of dignity and the opportunity to achieve their aspirations. We will promote freedom of speech, conscience, and religion, the rule of law, and economic freedom."

The US has global strategic interests. It can't go into a cocoon and hope that it can remain unaffected by international events.

106 posted on 03/06/2014 4:19:42 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

“The US has global strategic interests. It can’t go into a cocoon and hope that it can remain unaffected by international events. “

Please. I’m not arguing against this. However, it matters not one iota to America’s interests whether an Iraqi, for instance, has the right to vote or not. The idea that it did has already been proven wrong.

“The Monroe Doctrine drew parameters for an American sphere of influence and served as the justification for the kinds of interventions you seem to disapprove of.”

A sphere of influence within our geographic proximity. While I disapprove of it in general, I’d much rather have spent ten years and a Trillion dollars making Mexico a better and prosperous neighbor than Iraq and Afghanistan for instance - if we were going to do it anyway. As it is we pissed away treasure and blood and we’ll soon be back where we started in both countries.

Your quote from the Constitution should at least be discussed and put to a vote/amendment before we put forth the tortured interpretation to do the things we’ve done overseas. They are not words to justify a bigger defense budget over those other God-given items to be found in the Constitution.

“It is in our national interests to have a world where “all human beings deserve lives of dignity and the opportunity to achieve their aspirations.”

Bullshit. If our government strived to do this for Americans - like they are obligated to do under the Constitution, I’d be a bit more interested in the rest of the world. The fact is the rest of the world is NOT America. Our Constitution does not apply to them and it’s insanity to try to twist it so that “everyone gets the American Dream”.

THAT is balderdash.


107 posted on 03/06/2014 4:53:51 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
Please. I’m not arguing against this. However, it matters not one iota to America’s interests whether an Iraqi, for instance, has the right to vote or not. The idea that it did has already been proven wrong.

That is not why we went into Iraq. Here is why we went into Iraq

Saddam Hussein invaded Iran and Kuwait. He used WMD against Iran and his own people. He was a destabilizing influence in the region--a region extremely important for US interests. AQ made Iraq the main front in its war against us.

However bad things may seem in Iraq today, they are far less threatening to our interests today than they were before we went into the country.

I’d much rather have spent ten years and a Trillion dollars making Mexico a better and prosperous neighbor than Iraq and Afghanistan for instance - if we were going to do it anyway.

We went into Afghanistan to attack the people who committed the horror of 9/11, the attacks against our embassies in East Africa, the bombing of the USS Cole, etc. The reasons why we went into Iraq are in the link provided above.

Your quote from the Constitution should at least be discussed and put to a vote/amendment before we put forth the tortured interpretation to do the things we’ve done overseas.

Congress approved our entry into Iraq and Afghanistan and the funding of operations. Libya is another matter.

Bullshit. If our government strived to do this for Americans - like they are obligated to do under the Constitution, I’d be a bit more interested in the rest of the world. The fact is the rest of the world is NOT America. Our Constitution does not apply to them and it’s insanity to try to twist it so that “everyone gets the American Dream”.

What country does a better job for its citizens re liberty, justice, and individual liberties? Why are people risking life and limb to get here from all over the world?

I have not said that the Constitution applies to the world, but the universal values it espouses should be adopted by the rest of world. If that were the case, it would be a much safer world for them and us.

No man is an island,

Entire of itself,

Every man is a piece of the continent,

A part of the main.

108 posted on 03/06/2014 6:23:37 PM PST by kabar
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To: DBeers

If push came to shove, you feel confident zerO would defend our ”freedom?” And we lost most of our freedom in 1933 when FDR stole our real money, gold & took US off the gold standard. That was the beginning of the end.


109 posted on 03/06/2014 6:32:46 PM PST by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: plain talk

“Otherwise none of the stuff we discuss at this site even matters if we cannot maintain our freedom.”
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

How true, it is amazing how some people still seem to think of this country as being “the last bastion of freedom”. In truth we have NO REAL FREEDOM left in this country. Anyone who imagines otherwise needs to look around and smell the coffee.


110 posted on 03/06/2014 7:55:16 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: ResisTyr
If push came to shove, you feel confident zerO would defend our ”freedom?”

One word answer: Benghazi

ONLY if politically advantageous or necessary would Obama lift a finger to protect & defend Americans or American interests.

111 posted on 03/06/2014 10:21:06 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: RipSawyer
In truth we have NO REAL FREEDOM left in this country. Anyone who imagines otherwise needs to look around and smell the coffee.

It sure seems that way; however, freedom is not something given by government; regardless, government may be tasked with securing & protecting it. The 2nd amendment sums up well the concept. Freedom requires bearing arms in spite of a government that says no.

IMHO when and if the people come to the conclusion (Americans are quite patient) that the Constitution is irrelevant, IOW that government is irrelevant, then rather than comply with a tyrant there are many who will fall back to the default of the Declaration of Independence.

112 posted on 03/06/2014 10:30:10 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: central_va

Shhhhhh!


113 posted on 03/06/2014 11:10:24 PM PST by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here, Pharaoh.)
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To: SkyPilot
1. Not enough gays are joining the military.
2. Nowhere close to having enough trannies to win the next war.
3. The military still has too large a carbon footprint.
4. Not enough women prepared for front line duty.
5. The military is still not welcoming enough to Muslims.
6. A shockingly large percentage of armed forces training is directed at military action rather than peacekeeping and social development.

How can we ever possibly hope to keep up with the Chinese and the Russians with our military in such a deplorable state!

114 posted on 03/06/2014 11:39:55 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: buwaya

“Our personnel costs are inflated vis a vis either China or Russia.:

Higher when compared side-by-side. . .but do we want to lower to their level?

“Our procurement system is corrupt and extremely inefficient, particularly for new weapons.”

Please explain.


115 posted on 03/07/2014 1:58:33 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

They can get and keep similarly talented people for much less money, so they can have more of them, so they get more for their $. So even if their annual military budget is 1/3 or 1/4 of ours, it buys them as much or nearly as much. Which makes them more dangerous than a simple $ comparison would lead on to think.

As for the US procurement mess - there have been many studies on this - we waste between 1/2 to 2/3 of our procurement funds on non-productive paper pushing. Between having way too many office jockeys, regulations, delays, and etc.

I dont know whether the Chinese and Russians are as inefficient as we are, but they could hardly be worse.


116 posted on 03/07/2014 3:13:41 PM PST by buwaya
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To: SkyPilot
Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Now there's one RAT bastard traitor that I would love to give a really good hard boot in the ass....he is an 0dumb0 stooge through & through. I would love to ask him, during Benghazi when he was in the room with 0dumb0, Hillary, Panetta & Biden, why in the world did Dempsey sit there like a bump on a log and never once did Dempsey bring up the subject or recommend going in with reinforcements to help the 4 trapped Americans. What a RAT bastard traitor he is!

117 posted on 03/07/2014 9:07:13 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Jean S
A very brave man....

I doubt that very much! In what way? Dempsey is a RAT bastard traitor through & through, and a complete stooge for 0dumb0shit!

118 posted on 03/07/2014 9:14:50 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup
I had a conversation last year with a pretty high ranking Army general. He said that he was spending "90% of his time" dealing with the military's reported sexual assault problem.

As the media has published in literally hundreds of stories on this subject, between 2012 - 2013, there was a reported increase in the number of sexual assaults in the military.

What was seldom reported (in fact only a few media outlets even bothered) was that most sexual assault victims in the military are probably men, and they are much, much, much less likely to report the assaults, while females are highly encouraged to come forward.

Victims of sex assaults in military are mostly men

Further downplayed, to an INCREDIBLE degree, was the rampant increase in male-to-male sexual assaults that had skyrocketed since Don't Ask Don't Tell had been repealed.

Moreover, while discovering that women are much more likely to report instances of assault, the military began an all out effort in 2011 and 2012 to ENCOURAGE women to report sexual assault. And then, the White House, Congress, and the medial repeated false data that said women were LESS likely to report sexual assault crimes, when the opposite was true.

To make matters even more insane, the military refused to release data and specifics of FALSE reporting by women, claiming it would "discourage women from reporting future crimes."

To hear that a high ranking general, who had on his plate Sequestration, falling readiness, combat deaths, and whole other host of problems - having to spend "90%" of his time dealing with Secretary Hagel's homework projects on sexual assault is a travesty.

119 posted on 03/08/2014 2:20:24 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: RipSawyer
In truth we have NO REAL FREEDOM left in this country. Anyone who imagines otherwise needs to look around and smell the coffee.

I was in church last week, and an elder led a prayer where he thanked God that we were free to worship Him in that place.

I thought about that, and realized that:

1. In the American workplace, very few of us can worship or even acknowledge Him

2. God is banned from the schools, colleges, and universities

3. Judges are ruling that Christians must be slaves to homosexuals who demand good and services, even if that requires Christians to violate their core beliefs

4. Health care under ObamaCare now mandates paying for someone else's abortion and birth control, even if you are a single Christian male

5. Members of the military have been persecuted for their Christian beliefs (i.e. SMSgt Monk)

Airman Claiming Religious Discrimination Mirandized, May Face Court Martial

I truly believe that we are very soon at the point where pastors will soon be hauled off to jail for preaching God's truth.

But through persecution, the light of Christ always shines the brighter. It has been that way throughout history. This nation was founded upon the Bible and God. We have more than lost our way, we have the accelerator floored as the car accelerates towards the gates of Hell.

120 posted on 03/08/2014 2:32:05 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: buwaya

“They can get and keep similarly talented people for much less money, so they can have more of them, so they get more for their $.”

Cost of living is way down for them, so, they are able to pay less comparatively and, yes, they get what they pay for—non-thinking drones. Want a million illiterate coolies for your army, have at it. Fodder for modern weapons, technology and tactics.

“So even if their annual military budget is 1/3 or 1/4 of ours, it buys them as much or nearly as much.”

I’d say not in leadership and initiative and independent thinking company and field grade officers, and things, hardware, cost so much less over there (closed economic system) that can buy whatever they want at whatever price they care to pay. We don’t have that option.

“Which makes them more dangerous than a simple $ comparison would lead on to think.”

Dangerous? More numerous, for sure, but more dangerous/lethal? Not so much.

“As for the US procurement mess - there have been many studies on this - we waste between 1/2 to 2/3 of our procurement funds on non-productive paper pushing.”

I’d like to read that. Where can I find that number/study?

“Between having way too many office jockeys, regulations, delays, and etc.”

Acquisition reform is certainly much needed. The number of acquisition personnel in uniform is quite small, actually. Most acquisition is done by civilians, you know, those dedicated civilians in the federal GS world that belong to a union.

Regulations are made by congress and congress causes most of the cost increases and delays.

A contract is signed with a defense manufacturer and they start to build to the contracted number. They contract with second and third teir suppliers for parts and such. . .and many parts and materials are ‘long lead’ items requiring the contractor commit to purchase for many years. . .requiring the contractor to go on risk, to bet that congress will continue to fund the original amount.

The suppliers also sub-contract to get the raw materials so they can build the parts. All at a set price and for a certain muber.

Congress steps in and mucks it up by reducing the numbers (see F-22 of most recent example) and the cost-per-unit sky-rockets because the company must recover their non-recurring R&D investment, and this means they spread that cost over fewer platforms and this raises the costs and then people that don’t know any better complain about the kit being too costly and then congress reduces the number again, thereby increasing the cost-per unit-even more. . .and so on. Repeat.

It’s like Ford designing an entirely new car and the development cost is spread over hundreds of thousands of vehicles and no one really notices the cost for development when it is added to the cost of the car. However, if Ford is contracted for only a few hundred vehicles then the cost would be enormous.

“I dont know whether the Chinese and Russians are as inefficient as we are, but they could hardly be worse.”

Oh, they are very much worse. Not only are they building crap, they are building lots of it.

Just my humble opinion. Others may disagree.


121 posted on 03/08/2014 8:14:36 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Both China and Russia have effectively 100% literacy these days, which I don’t think the US can truthfully claim.
And having worked with numerous Russian and Chinese technical people, albeit immigrants to the US, I don’t think that we can assume the ones still at home are incompetent.
They can hire qualified experienced engineers, who can be excellent, for less than we pay a private.
Both countries also have semi-free markets and particularly for technical and manufacturing industries, have much lower barriers to entry than we do. In most relevant ways China has a freer economy than we do. You can set up and operate a CNC machine shop in China for much less, and with lower political risk and government oversight, than in most of the US. Lets not even talk about heavy industry. There is no facility in the US that can compete with Chinese shipyards. You also have better logistics facilities in much of China than in comparable parts of the US. That’s a fact. We are paralyzing ourselves industrially.
We still have an edge in some high quality manufacturing, such as jet engines, but they are getting better fast.
As for our procurement problems, there are dozens of studies. I have seen many estimates and articles in the USNI Proceedings. There is a recent McKinsey report out too.
It does not matter for this discussion whose fault it is, its just a fact.
They have not caught up yet, because we have enormous accumulated investments “in the ground” so to speak, because of our many years of accumulated material, technology, expertise, and experience, but at the rate they are investing they are quickly overcoming this.


122 posted on 03/08/2014 9:49:47 AM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

I, too, met many from the ‘other side.”

I do think most that remain behind are incompetent because they will act that way to survive in that cesspool of ignorance they call socialism/communism.

“Both China and Russia have effectively 100% literacy these days, which I don’t think the US can truthfully claim.”

And you think their claim is legitimate? Reminds me of something I read a long time ago, and I paraphrase: socialism, communism, no human rights. . .but hey, at least they can read.

Ref acquisition; you specifically called out military staff and such for the broken system and having too many military filling those billets. I pointed out there is a shortage of military acquisition personnel and it is congress and civilians running procurement causing problems. That is where the frustration should be directed. I am sure your reading indicated this as well.

Cheers.


123 posted on 03/08/2014 11:38:28 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

No human rights, but way less bureaucracy over there getting in peoples faces.
They really arent “communist” that way. They are into real private enterprise in a way we no longer are. Believe it, I have been in the machine tool business and I know how it goes. If you want to set up to manufacture over there its easy peasy. If you want to source parts its also ridiculously simple.
I made no distinction of military vs civilian in our system. The system as a whole works badly, no matter who is at fault.


124 posted on 03/08/2014 1:55:27 PM PST by buwaya
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