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Obamacare Architect: 'You Don't Need a Doctor for Every Part of Your Health Care'
CNS News ^ | 3/5/2014 | Susan Jones

Posted on 03/05/2014 9:17:53 PM PST by Huntress

(CNSNews.com) - Under the Affordable Care Act, the Health and Human Services Department is spending billions of dollars to expand community health clinics, which are mainly staffed by nurse practitioners and physician assistants.

"It's going to be one part of a complex part of the health care system," Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, one of the architects of Obamacare, told Fox News's Bill O'Reilly Tuesday night. "So if your kid has a sore throat and you want to find out if it's strep throat, or your kid has what appears to be an ear infection and you want to find out if it's otitis media -- you really don't need to go to the pediatrician. You can go to these clinics."

"But there aren't any doctors," O'Reilly said.

"Well, you don't need a doctor for every part of your health care," Emanuel responded.

"You don't need a doctor," O'Reilly echoed. "If I want a strep throat diagnosis, I don't want Lenny who just came out of the community college..."

"Excuse me, but those are nurse practitioners -- it's not Lenny out of a community college," Emanuel said. "And it is just putting a swab back there and getting a strep throat assessment."

Emanuel said electronic health records make it possible for the clinic to send the diagnosis to a patient's primary physician.

"Are you worried?" O'Reilly asked. "Say you had VD, STD -- I'm sure you don't."

"Please, don't insult me," Emanuel replied.

O'Reilly said he's worried about the privacy of electronic medical records.

"We have laws to protect the privacy," Emanuel said. Several times, he accused O'Reilly of "sowing fear with no grounds."

"You know me, I'm afraid of everything," O'Reilly said. "Say TMZ offers somebody like $5,000 to get a famous person's medical records. Is that unheard of? Is that unheard of? Come on, is that unheard of? You know it goes on all the time."

"They will not, they have high security and everyone is well aware of this, and they are taking it seriously. And if they -- if they didn't, they would have already offered that for electronic health records and we would have seen the breach."

Emanuel said 80 percent of doctors now use electronic health records -- "and there has not been that kind of breach... And there is not a single case, Mr. O'Reilly, of those medical records being breached for things like STDs or a very famous Hollywood star's medical records."


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I knew it had to be Zeke Emmanuel as soon as I saw the headline. He knows what's best for the proles.
1 posted on 03/05/2014 9:17:53 PM PST by Huntress
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To: Huntress
No, in some cases a medical equipment salesman can perform just as well as a surgeon, and far more cheaply.
2 posted on 03/05/2014 9:19:48 PM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Huntress
""...Say you had VD, STD -- I'm sure you don't." "

Zeke is an STD (Socialist Transmitter of Death).

3 posted on 03/05/2014 9:21:16 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Huntress

Well there are those parts where an undertaker will serve..


4 posted on 03/05/2014 9:30:04 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Huntress

He is correct. You don’t need a doctor for every part of your healthcare, because you don’t need a public healthcare system for every part of your healthcare.

A person with just a little bit of knowledge can take care of most minor problems themselves.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 9:30:17 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Huntress

Take your master mind plan and shove it, commie creep.


6 posted on 03/05/2014 9:31:09 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Huntress
hows about making the strep/flue test available over the counter for about 10 bucks. It's simpler to accomplish than a home blood pressure check. Oh, that's right, the medical industry doesn't like us to have TOO much control. I would to be able to tell junior, “aint happening, your test was negative and you have no fever, so grab your book bag”. I am almost done raising my third and it has been my experience that a lack of completed homework assignments and pseudo strep go together. This approach would have the unintended result of increasing the schools attendance numbers.
7 posted on 03/05/2014 9:31:37 PM PST by ping jockey
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To: ping jockey

Yep, a skilled Dr. Mom can work wonders.


8 posted on 03/05/2014 9:34:24 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Huntress; Ray76

9 posted on 03/05/2014 9:36:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Huntress

I don’t need a politician for any part of my life.


10 posted on 03/05/2014 9:41:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

i need a politician like i need a parasite in my colon.


11 posted on 03/05/2014 9:44:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No, I think you’re confused. An analogy is supposed to be a different (although similar) thing than the subject. lol


12 posted on 03/05/2014 9:52:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Huntress

O’Reilly obviously has not spent any time in a hospital lately. Healthcare functions performed by MDs in the old days have been broken down into specialties performed by physicians assistants, nurse practitioners, RNs, LPNs, nurses aides, and a wide range of technical specialists with community college degrees. I hate to say it but Zeke Emmanuel’s got this this one right, it’s been going on for years.


13 posted on 03/05/2014 9:52:52 PM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama’s America)
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To: Huntress

So who pays for these “community health clinics”? Are they like the old free clincs where you went when you got clap or had a bad trip? Or are they like the urgent care places? Who pays? The Government? Your Obama health care provider? The patiant?

CC


14 posted on 03/05/2014 9:53:31 PM PST by Captain Compassion
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To: Huntress

I can’t back Bill on this one. The vast majority of minor medical issues do not need an MD to handle. I have had NPs diagnosis things correctly that the MD they worked for could not.

It really scares me to think that I actually agree with Zeke Emmanuel on anything significant


15 posted on 03/05/2014 9:58:16 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: Jonty30

Give me a script pad and I don’t need any of them.


16 posted on 03/05/2014 10:05:27 PM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Huntress

Certified Nurse practitioners don’t swab throats, Lenny or Linda from the community college does that. FU Bill O’Reilly. I am completely sick of your arrogance and your insulting demeanor. I am done with you.


17 posted on 03/05/2014 10:07:31 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Huntress

Let the public choose whether it wants para-practitioners. The idea of regulation has been quite perverted here.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 10:10:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Ray76

This bothers me. If everyone has ObamaCare why are these community health clinics needed? Who will use them? If you can get “free” care at these why would anyone buy ObamaCare?

CC


19 posted on 03/05/2014 10:33:11 PM PST by Captain Compassion
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To: Huntress

I don’t need is you telling me what I don’t need.

Fvck you, Zeke.


20 posted on 03/05/2014 10:35:13 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Huntress

There is something extremely unlikable about Ezekiel Emmanuel.

I think it’s his sneering arrogant master of the universe demeanor.


21 posted on 03/05/2014 10:57:46 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Huntress

The question should have been “And what’s next if the kid DOES have strep throat? Who administers the treatment?”


22 posted on 03/05/2014 11:10:18 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Captain Compassion

Archie Bunker called them freebie hippy clinics.


23 posted on 03/05/2014 11:11:36 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Huntress

Emanuel said 80 percent of doctors now use electronic health records — “and there has not been that kind of breach...

Dude does not read the news. Ever hear of hacking Doc? How about Snowden? Target?


24 posted on 03/05/2014 11:13:04 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: Huntress

Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel—— He comes off as a madman when you see him on the boob tube. That sure inspires confidence. He works at some .edu in a propagnda job. http://www.upenn.edu/pennnews/news/ezekiel-j-emanuel-appointed-penn-integrates-knowledge-professor-university-pennsylvania


25 posted on 03/05/2014 11:16:02 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Huntress
Well...He's right, and not projecting...at all...

I have already had one doctor quit, and the one I moved to is thinking seriously about it.

So my guess is that this is the designed plan, and that very much like my own profession, there will be a master and a bunch of apprentices.

You will never see the master...He will just sign off on the paperwork and take the financial risks..and some supervision.

The VA has also done this in advance of Obama care....so I quit going to them three or four years back..

So now it's a case of what to do....No doctor or a “assistant”.

Been weaning myself off my meds....Have no immediate plans to see anyone anymore..

26 posted on 03/05/2014 11:22:07 PM PST by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Huntress

“And we’ll decide when you do and do not need one, thank you.

“Clearly, you’re too stupid to know.”


27 posted on 03/05/2014 11:24:16 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: shove_it

And yet the cost of healthcare is skyrocketing and overall quality is slowly declining....observations from over 34 years in ‘the trenches’.


28 posted on 03/05/2014 11:27:20 PM PST by yadent
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To: Captain Compassion

Community Clinics are the new name for the old Free Clinics. Payment is as able. They’re funded by a private/public funds combination with the public funds being Fed, State, and Local. They usually have a combination of NP’s and physicians (frequently volunteers) on staff.

NP’s are actually a good choice for routine stuff. A lot of states have “Doc in a Box’s” in pharmacies, grocery stores, etc. staffed by NP’s.

My family doc triages things like cold and flu to their in-house NP. It gives them “walk in” capability. She actually caught something the Doc had overlooked last time.


29 posted on 03/05/2014 11:28:46 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Huntress

So if I rarely need (or get) to see a doctor, then I certainly don’t need to spend $500 a month with a deductible of $6250 a year for ZeroCare.


30 posted on 03/05/2014 11:42:30 PM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: Captain Compassion
This bothers me. If everyone has ObamaCare why are these community health clinics needed? Who will use them? If you can get “free” care at these why would anyone buy ObamaCare?

Good question. A sizable portion of the argument regarding the need for ObieCare was based on claims that didn't accurately report the state of the current system. A portion of those who supposedly have "no access to healthcare" have been using community clinics for decades. And, of course a lot of them go to emergency rooms.

When it comes to primary care for the poor, spending Fed money for Community Clinics is a much more efficient use of funds than the ObieCare approach. Not as much opportunity for graft, though, so the politicians wouldn't be enthused.

31 posted on 03/05/2014 11:43:02 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Huntress

Get used to dying.


32 posted on 03/05/2014 11:46:08 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Prince of Space

No, you need protection from the extreme costs associated with serious illnesses and accidents by being able to insure those risks, and a couple of grand in a savings account to cover routine stuff. In the new America, though, the government will no longer allow you to exercise that option. They have a deep dislike for letting citizens do that whole “choice thing”.


33 posted on 03/05/2014 11:50:38 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Huntress

Yea go yo your local Veterinarian!!


34 posted on 03/05/2014 11:53:01 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Captain Compassion

At 12K a year no less.


35 posted on 03/05/2014 11:55:58 PM PST by funfan
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To: Huntress

Someone needs to remake “dumb ways to die” as “dumb ways to vote”


36 posted on 03/05/2014 11:57:31 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Huntress

Ezekiel Emanuel: IF DR. MENGELE HAD A SON!


37 posted on 03/06/2014 12:01:29 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: ArmstedFragg

I’d love to have that “protection,” but unfortunately it costs about 20% of our income. According to ZeroCare, the good news is we don’t have to pay the penalty. However, the bad news is....we still don’t have health insurance. So we’ll just have to take our chances until 2018 when we qualify for Medicare, if it’s still around then. FUBO.


38 posted on 03/06/2014 12:25:36 AM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: TigersEye

well technically the politician is in my wallet.


39 posted on 03/06/2014 1:36:37 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Huntress

There have been dozens of cases where the medical records of famous people were breached. Virtually every time one of them goes to the hospital a nurse or ten gets fired for looking at the records.


40 posted on 03/06/2014 2:42:41 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Paladin2
Yep, a skilled Dr. Mom can work wonders.

Yeah, us dads are useless when it comes to taking care of our children. :(

41 posted on 03/06/2014 3:05:00 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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Yoo, Hoo, Zeke-baby, what did you do w/ the BILLION
dollars you got for designing Obamacare, w/ its high tech
voter registration web site, 'n everything?

"After I polished my penny loafers, I went shopping
at Bed, Bath and Beyond......then I had some fun."

42 posted on 03/06/2014 3:24:00 AM PST by Liz
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To: Huntress

We don’t need bureaucrats and politicians as part of our health care.


43 posted on 03/06/2014 3:27:08 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Captain Compassion

Our local clinic goes by income. You could catch anything just sitting in the waiting room- and pay through the nose for the privilege. The seating is row after row of metal chairs, all close together.


44 posted on 03/06/2014 3:30:22 AM PST by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: Huntress
I'm surprised the left keeps trotting this guy out to do TV show. He is creepy in a kind of Dr. Mengele way, a bit ironic being a Jew.
45 posted on 03/06/2014 3:38:33 AM PST by DAC21
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To: Huntress

A doctor does not usually dispense Jewish penicillin (chicken soup).


46 posted on 03/06/2014 3:45:09 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The PASSING LANE is for PASSING, not DAWDLING)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“Complete Lives System”

http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/PIIS0140673609601379.pdf

cold calcuatiosn about the worth of a life and the amount of medical resourcse that should be allocated by “society” to “it”

Ezekiel Emmanuel’s healthplan philosophy

BTW they already have throat swab strep clinics at some of the pharmacies, cost about $10 for a walk in diagnosis and then cheap antibiotics (they were free several years ago)

Problem is, strep often does not have symptoms of a sore throat

and if a sore throat is not strep it still could be more than a simple sore throat


47 posted on 03/06/2014 3:49:31 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Steely Tom

The Democrats ARE an STD!!


48 posted on 03/06/2014 3:51:27 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Huntress

You don’t need insurance for most of your health care either.


49 posted on 03/06/2014 3:52:28 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

“Obamacare Architect: ‘You Don’t Need a Doctor for Every Part of Your Health Care”.............

We don’t need a dumbass for a president either, not to even mention the senate and congress.


50 posted on 03/06/2014 3:55:59 AM PST by DaveA37
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