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Ted Cruz launches political convention with crowd-pleasing demand to abolish the IRS
The Daily Mail ^ | March 6, 2014 | David Martosko, U.s. Political Editor

Posted on 03/06/2014 8:19:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Conservative firebrand Ted Cruz launches political convention with crowd-pleasing demand to abolish the IRS

Ted Cruz, the rock-ribbed conservative Texas senator who figures to be a factor in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, told thousands of conservatives Thursday morning that the IRS should go the way of the dodo.

'We need to abolish the IRS,' he said, calling instead for a flat income tax rate and a user-friendly tax return that can be filed on a postcard.

That verbal gauntlet, thrown as much at a near-century of tax collection as at the Obama administration, was Cruz's biggest applause line.

'By virtue of your being here today,' he jokingly cautioned the nation's largest annual gathering of politically conservative activists, 'tomorrow each and every one of you is going to be audited by the IRS.'

On Wednesday the former IRS official in charge of vetting nonprofit groups that seek tax-exempt charitable status refused, for the second time, to tell a congressional committee what she knew about the scandal.

Lois Lerner claimed the Constitution's Fifth Amendment afforded the right to remain silent, despite a party-line ruling from the House Oversight Committee that she waived that privilege by offering a lengthy opening statement in a May 2013 hearing.

More than 200 right-wing organizations, mostly those linked to the tea party movement, sat in limbo for as many as three years while the IRS dithered and held them up during two election cycles.

The agency is now moving toward new regulations that would allow it to codify the secret rules it used to screen out conservative organizations while quickly green-lighting liberals.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cpac; irs; teaparty; tedcruz
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ted Cruz definitely is the best we have now. What a combination if we have Cruz/Palin.
21 posted on 03/06/2014 9:06:11 AM PST by Logical me
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To: SMARTY

As long as there are any Federal taxes, the IRS will exist. Cruz can abolish, recreate and rename it, but it will still exist. The power of the IRS is rooted in Federal tax complexity. Simplify Federal taxes (flat tax, etc), and the IRS will neutered.


22 posted on 03/06/2014 9:16:35 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: Mr. K

I agree with the flat 10% tax, I’ve been advocating that here in Alberta too.

Next problem, Islam and the muslims in North America, what’s the solution?


23 posted on 03/06/2014 9:19:45 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: aimhigh

OK-I’d vote for THAT!

In the end, taxpayers need to be guaranteed some accountability and there is NONE at this point.

Our tax revenue goes down a bottomless pit...while legislators demand ever more, as if they actually DESERVE what they have squandered already!!


24 posted on 03/06/2014 9:21:30 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Could not possibly agree more, BUT......

the only way that happens is with Ted Cruz as Senate Majority Leader and a Conservative Republican president. No other current member would do this.
25 posted on 03/06/2014 9:23:53 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Bulwyf

Massive deportation for anyone who does NOT follow the US constitution, and freedom of religion is one of those rules. You can be a muslim here if you respect OTHER people’s religious choices and do not try to usurp The Constitution with Sharia law.


26 posted on 03/06/2014 9:25:22 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Hostage

I had a look at that, it’s something I could possibly get behind with some more research. Sounds decent enough at the first look.


27 posted on 03/06/2014 9:25:26 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Mr. K

Not bad, close but not close enough. The problem with that method is they will pretend to follow the constitution and be a good citizen until such a time there are enough of them.

Mass deportation must happen and for those that do want to stay, well they’d have to give up being muslim. I don’t see any other solution to guarantee our rights and freedoms.


28 posted on 03/06/2014 9:27:33 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: SMARTY
There was a time when THAT kind of statement seemed extreme.

Yes. I have always hated the IRS, but until now, I never thought it was used (and it never has been to my knowledge)to crush citizen political opposition groups.

NOW, I think it's the very LEAST we can do to avoid the worst economic consequences for American workers and taxpayers.

Agreed.
29 posted on 03/06/2014 9:28:13 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: onyx; Cincinatus' Wife

Thank very much for the links. Go Cruz!


30 posted on 03/06/2014 9:30:49 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Mr. K
flat tax, 10% across the board, no exemptions

Do you think the definition of the word "income" is subjective? It will be with that plan. At that point, there will need to be enforcement.

The real problem is spending. No tax plan is going to fix that without addressing the Congress' systematic ignorance of Article I Section 8.

31 posted on 03/06/2014 9:32:03 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: 98ZJ USMC

At its best, it MUST be a-political... yet THIS President has changed that.

Now, it is a very handy cudgel that he uses to bully, coerce and reproach Americans who do not agree with HIM!

It doesn’t even attempt the pretense of unbiased and strictly objective conduct any more.


32 posted on 03/06/2014 9:33:52 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...calling instead for a flat income tax rate and a user-friendly tax return that can be filed on a postcard.

And sent to who?

33 posted on 03/06/2014 9:35:45 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Hostage
But she’s wrong that after a flat tax is passed, members of Congress will be right back at it carving out exemptions and favors.
A flat tax never stays flat!

There's a solution to that:

Tax Reform Amendment
Section I
No tax, federal or state, shall ever be withheld from the wages of a worker of any citizen of either.

Section II
No property shall be seized for failure to pay taxes until after conviction in a jury trial; the right of the jury to nullify (and thereby forgive) this debt shall never be questioned or denied.

Section III
The second amendment is hereby recognized as restricting the power of taxation, both federal and state, therefore no tax (or fine) shall be laid upon munitions or the sale thereof.

Section IV
The seventh amendment is also hereby recognized, and nothing in this amendment shall restrict the right of a citizen to seek civil redress.

Section V
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever exceed 10%.

Section VI
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever apply varying rates to those in its jurisdiction.

Section VII
No retroactive or ex post facto tax (or fee) shall ever be valid.

Section VIII
The congress may not delegate the creation of any tax or fine in any way.

Section IX
No federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent shall ever be exempt from any tax, fine, or fee by virtue of their position.

Section X
Any federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent applying, attempting to apply, or otherwise causing the application of an ex post facto or retroactive law shall, upon conviction, be evicted from office and all retirement benefits forfeit.

34 posted on 03/06/2014 9:43:47 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Taxing income is immoral.


35 posted on 03/06/2014 9:48:31 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76
Taxing income is immoral.

I wouldn't go quite that far; though I certainly agree that withholdings are immoral.

36 posted on 03/06/2014 9:53:33 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

It’s a tax on production.

Why not come around to my field and seize half my crops? It’s feudalistic bs.


37 posted on 03/06/2014 10:00:45 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Ray76
It’s a tax on production.

That's not, strictly speaking, true.
If you're a farmer it operates much like a sales-tax: you could give it away and eat/reuse everything you produced without paying anything for an income-based tax-system... this is untrue for a production-based tax.

38 posted on 03/06/2014 10:06:21 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Tax Reform Amendment
I like your list quite well, though I’d prefer more formal language for some of them.
I do have one more serious quibble - you mention forfeiture of pensions for misbehavior. That seems to establish a precedent against term limits. Under term limits, nobody should be an elected officer long enough to justify getting a pension from it.
My other impulse is to add things which would make it even more impossible to get ratified. But they’d be off-topic.

39 posted on 03/06/2014 10:54:14 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Seattle Conservative

” - - - One thing I’ve noticed is that many of the articles say “the conservative firebrand, Ted Cruz”. - - - “

It takes a Conservative to fire the brand called Republican In Name Only.

Once the RINOs are diminished, then protection of the brand called Obamanation can be fired.

Fire the brand Obamanation, and save OUR Nation.


40 posted on 03/06/2014 10:55:57 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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