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World Net Daily: U.S. siding with neo-Nazis
World Net Daily ^ | 3-4-14 | E. Michael Maloof

Posted on 03/06/2014 10:35:35 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui

A knowledgeable Ukrainian source in Stanford, Calif, told WND the “real power in Kiev and much of Western Ukraine today belongs to several rival neo-Nazi factions whose masked, well-armed adherents are busy looting abandoned properties and shaking down businesses for money to support their ‘revolution.’”

“They have already made territorial demands to each of the countries bordering the Ukraine, including the NATO members Poland, Hungary and Romania, and they have declared their intention to acquire nuclear weapons,” the source said.

Other European neo-Nazi parties, such as Jobbik in Hungary and the Golden Dawn in Greece, are “amateurs compared to Ukraine’s Svoboda and Right Sector,” said the source.

The Ukrainian groups use “the same slogans and the same Nazi symbols they used in 1941-1944, when they butchered 200,000-300,000 Poles and Jews, and in 1945-1954, when they butchered in the most gruesome ways imaginable tens of thousands of peaceful Ukrainian citizens whose only crime was to refuse joining their ranks.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/russians-u-s-siding-with-neo-nazis/#xFA3FH1mjdwiZEM5.99

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: nazis; ukraine; worldnutdaily
We can't afford to be knuckleheads on this and let a knee jerk anti-Putin reaction blind us to the topological realities.
1 posted on 03/06/2014 10:35:35 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Correct. We have helped neo-Nazi crazies take over part of Ukraine and this will spread.


2 posted on 03/06/2014 10:39:23 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“Correct. We have helped neo-Nazi crazies take over part of Ukraine and this will spread.”

I wonder if NIKE will design and supply their snappy uniforms?/S


3 posted on 03/06/2014 10:44:44 AM PST by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Putin is not a good guy. There are several groups manipulating the situation but that doesn’t make him a good guy.


4 posted on 03/06/2014 10:44:45 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Pretty much what we did in North Africa.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 10:44:46 AM PST by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here, Pharaoh.)
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To: Psalm 144

Entirely different.

Bam bam supported regime change in north africa. bam bam had nothing to do with this one.


6 posted on 03/06/2014 10:45:47 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

World Nut Daily falling for Russian propaganda that all the opposition are neo-nazi’s. It is a ridiculous assertion that only neo-nazi’ oppose the partition of Ukraine or only the neo-nazi’s opposed the corrupt dictator.


7 posted on 03/06/2014 10:47:05 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: driftdiver

Same policies, different continent.


8 posted on 03/06/2014 10:51:55 AM PST by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here, Pharaoh.)
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To: GeronL

That’s what I heard. Putin has his propaganda machine out in full force to gain support for his takeover of the Ukraine. WND has fallen for it.


9 posted on 03/06/2014 10:53:02 AM PST by Vinylly
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Like the good old times, when the Soviets were taking over Eastern Europe, murdering patriots whom they and their Western lackeys called ‘Nazis’! There no no paid lackeys here (that I know of), but we’ve got plenty useful idiots.


10 posted on 03/06/2014 10:55:30 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
It's been 70 years since WWII. It's been 23 years since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Why are we only now hearing about “neo Nazis” in Ukraine?

There's an uncomfortably warm war happening in Ukraine, with several sides. As in all wars, truth was the first casualty. There's no doubt in my mind that there are some neo Nazis in the Ukraine — just as there are in the USA, Canada, and other European countries. There's also no doubt in my mind that there are some Stalinist Communists in parts of the Ukraine, and Russia (to say nothing about the U.S.A., Canada, etc.) Those kernels of truth were necessary to formulate propaganda for all sides — but, propaganda is to truth as a crack ho is to a virgin bride.

There's a large contingent of the Ukrainian diaspora in Canada; and no country could ask for better citizens. If any are neo-Nazis, they've kept that fact very well hidden indeed.

11 posted on 03/06/2014 10:57:21 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: driftdiver
And Putin is a dangerous psychotic tyrant, but that doesn't make the people fighting him necessarily anything other than neo nazi crazies.
12 posted on 03/06/2014 10:57:30 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
Given recent foreign policy this should surprise no-one.
13 posted on 03/06/2014 10:59:21 AM PST by McGruff (Don't worry. John Kerry is in charge.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

True. And they maintain very close ties with islamofascists in the Caucasus and the Crimea. I wouldn’t be surprised if I hear these thugs have been fighting for al-Quaeda in Syria and the Arab muzzies are now gladly giving them a helping hand in the Ukraine...


14 posted on 03/06/2014 10:59:59 AM PST by Altenkrug
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To: driftdiver

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy...er?


15 posted on 03/06/2014 11:00:16 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

There is a handful of posters here relentlessly peddling the Russian propaganda trying to scare us with some Nazis, 70 years after World War II, and the dissolution of the German NSDAP political party, and 100+ million victims of the Communist Utopia


16 posted on 03/06/2014 11:01:28 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: WayneS

Yes sometimes they are. The people of the Ukraine are good people. There are many other forces which are not so good.

The Ukraine is important strategically due to its location and natural resources.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 11:02:41 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Most of the people in Russia are good people also.


18 posted on 03/06/2014 11:03:55 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Can someone please tell me what specific tenets of the political philosophy of these protesters makes them “neo-nazis”?

Apart from the fact that they oppose Putin (which on the surface is a good thing) I know little about them.


19 posted on 03/06/2014 11:06:07 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Putin was a Lieutenant Colonel in the KGB. No one should ever forget that.
In order to be an officer in the KGB you needed to be a hard core communist true believer.


20 posted on 03/06/2014 11:13:21 AM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

The Svboda and Communist parties have about the same representation in their Parliament (~10%). Tell me again why we should be particularly worried about one over the other?


21 posted on 03/06/2014 11:13:58 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a pedophile and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: WayneS

Here’s an old article from 2005 about them: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20050103&slug=ukraine03


22 posted on 03/06/2014 11:14:45 AM PST by wonders (Repentance is the daughter of hope and the renunciation of despair. - St. John Climacus)
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To: GeronL

I second what you said. RT News is beating the drum that the pro-Western Ukrainians are all ‘ultra-nationalists’ (as if most Russians are not) or ‘fascists’ which is a very emotional term for Russians and it’s typically used to describe ANYONE that the Russian government/media doesn’t like. For instance: Obama is being called a ‘fascist’ in the Russian media right now.

It’s also noteworthy that while the Russian language media is bashing on alleged ‘Nazis’ they’re also not missing a beat by bashing on Western Jews for ‘meddling’ in Ukraine.

Trivia: A couple English lanuguage Russian sites are referring to the pro-West Ukrainians as “EUkrainians” - which I find pretty clever!


23 posted on 03/06/2014 11:30:36 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

I’m not sure I buy this narrative. Russia is a master in the art of propaganda.


24 posted on 03/06/2014 11:33:43 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
Right. The Jews neocons are siding with the neo-Nazis. Just when I thought World Net Daily couldn't lose any more credibility - it plumbs even greater depths. Yes - Nuland, Kagan, Wolfowitz and so on, are all Jewish, and their concerns about Russia's pending annexation of the Crimea (and perhaps of more of Ukraine) have nothing to do with furthering Soros's or Obama's or a corrupt cabal of Jewish financiers' objectives.
25 posted on 03/06/2014 11:33:48 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

How does rebuilding Russian empire and Russian power help us?

How does Ukraine splintering off and being alone, hurt us in our future dealings with our old enemy, Russia?


26 posted on 03/06/2014 11:51:01 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: GeronL

Maybe you knee jerk ‘50’s Cold Warriors should take a look here:

http://tinyurl.com/mpzbyo7

Ukranian fascists are far more than a pale shadow of their pro-nazi WWII “freedom fighters” and Putin is not Stalin. I’m laying 10 to 1 that half of the readers here will turn “Putin is not Stalin” into “this guy is a paid agent of the FSB” Take yer ding dong blinders off and stop living in the past.


27 posted on 03/06/2014 12:12:08 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: ansel12

>>How does rebuilding Russian empire and Russian power help us?

>>How does Ukraine splintering off and being alone, hurt us in our future dealings with our old enemy, Russia?

This is all about NATO moving ABM systems closer to Russia. Kruschev tried something similar with ICBMs in Cuba and we went apoplectic for good reason. If you don’t subscribe to the “spheres of influence” doctrine then you shouldn’t be too upset if North Korea or China move ABMs or ICBMs to Mexico. Believe me, if anything like that were contemplated by Mexico, you’d see a regime change brought about by CIA funded and propelled Mexican “patriots” in a heartbeat.

We have a cartoon picture of the game board and its players. Nothing is as it seems. Invisible hands run all through contemporary geopolitics and our interpretive frameworks belong in the carnival.


28 posted on 03/06/2014 12:21:00 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: GeronL
There is a small neo-Nazi group opposing Putin in Ukraine. However, we could also say Putin himself looks suspiciously like a National Socialist himself—he is nationalistic, thugish, has probably goose-stepped a time or two, uses the supposed oppression of Russian monority to occupy part of a sovereign nation's territory, is antisemitic, pro-Arab, and has an irredentist agenda. Maybe not a Hitler, but definitely Mussolini.
29 posted on 03/06/2014 12:35:55 PM PST by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

No, I don’t have a cartoon view of American interests, but you do seem to have a strong leaning to anti-American, pro-Soviet interests.

It is why you ignored the questions.

How does rebuilding Russian empire and Russian power help us?

How does Ukraine splintering off and being alone, hurt us in our future dealings with our old enemy, Russia?


30 posted on 03/06/2014 1:37:22 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

>>No, I don’t have a cartoon view of American interests, but you do seem to have a strong leaning to anti-American, pro-Soviet interests.

No, I have a strong leaning against destabilizing the region and helping a fascist resurgence in the Ukariane. Here’s a link about this that you probably won’t bother to visit:
http://tinyurl.com/lhg7bnt

>>It is why you ignored the questions.

>>How does rebuilding Russian empire and Russian power help us?

The USA has suffered far far more harm from it’s internal political warfare than from ANYTHING the Ruskies can do to us. Your question is worthless because it fails to admit to the failures of the GOP to dominate the political scene in this country. I’ll retort by asking you how the sam hell losing elections helps us? How does losing control of the media help us? How does losing control of academia help us? How does losing control of our military and intel agencies help us. How does losing control of our financial institutions help us. As far as the “what helps us” battle goes, you are fighting a side show. Leave Russia to her sphere of influence. Hell we can’t even control our own domestic sphere of influence. You want to conduct business with no inventory. Our foreign policy is an intellectual Ponzi scheme.


31 posted on 03/07/2014 10:26:53 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Wow, you really are avoiding the questions.

How does rebuilding Russian empire and Russian power help us?

How does Ukraine splintering off and being alone, hurt us in our future dealings with our old enemy, Russia?


32 posted on 03/07/2014 12:27:14 PM PST by ansel12 (Whow)
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To: ansel12

Wow, you really are avoiding the questions.

How does rebuilding Russian empire and Russian power help us?

How does Ukraine splintering off and being alone, hurt us in our future dealings with our old enemy, Russia?


Try to get the point- we are beyond help. Got it? Nothing we can do will help us. Nothing. The game has been lost by conservatives as they are presently constituted. I’m serious. That’s my answer. Get used to it.

What we are doing is arm waving and waiting to become fully obsolete. We have a glimmer of hope IF AND ONLY IF we stop rubber stamping Wall St.’s whims, put bankers in jail, abolish the Fed, call unanimously and loudly for Obama’s impeachment, stop doing business with the World Bank, the IMF and the BIS, repudiate all KKK and nazi elements with whom we associate (don’t be disingenuous on this point), repudiate Social Darwinism and begin to live authentic Christian values in a Christian manner, period. We screwed the pooch as “the Party of Lincoln” by not actively engaging in the struggle for integration. Don’t be disingenuous on this point.

My best buddy in college was a Goldwaterite YAF member (Young Americans for Freedom) and I still have his missive about the evils of race miscegenation in my memory. This was a mainstream conservative Republican youth group and it was racist, period. Meanwhile the commies were busing to Mississippi to battle the KKK Dixiecrats and register Blacks to vote. This is a stain on our party.

Republicans somehow managed to abandon their founding principles and allowed them to be exploited by soap box Marxists. Huge mistake. Stupid mistake. Republicans allowed the international banking mafia to print our money and then LOAN it to us for an interest charge! Unbelievable. How did that happen!? Unless you can answer that for me, this conversation is going nowhere because you don’t have the insight into history to understand how we got here a day late and a dollar short.

We gave the initiative to the Marxists across ALL cultural fronts while the modern electronic world sneaked up and bit us on the ass. Well, son, this is the price you pay for being stupid, for losing your way, for keeping the 3rd world in economic bondage. Hell, Ho Chi Min read US history and thought the US would save him from French imperialism. Ha! Joke was on you Ho. And then it was on us as Viet Cong tanks drove into downtown Saigon in 1973.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident has been admitted to as a complete fabrication. Good grief! We DROVE Comrade Ho into the arms of Moscow and Beijing and freaking took over the job as imperialist leg breaker from the French. Eisenhower warned us all clearly and unequivocally to be wary of the “military-industrial complex” and we didn’t listen. We are going to get what we deserve unless we do what needs to be done and dismantle crooked Wall St. banking permanently. Over and out.


33 posted on 03/07/2014 5:14:56 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Rambling gibberish.


34 posted on 03/07/2014 5:20:57 PM PST by ansel12 (Whow)
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To: ansel12

Rambling gibberish.


I rest my case.


35 posted on 03/08/2014 11:09:26 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

You never could answer the question of how supporting the growth and aggressiveness of Russian empire helps America.


36 posted on 03/08/2014 11:18:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism.)
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