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The Insiders: Get ready for the Obamacare ‘Big Punt’ (Individual mandate collapse)
Washington Post ^ | 3/06/14 | Ed Rogers

Posted on 03/06/2014 5:27:12 PM PST by Libloather

**SNIP**

The distraction of Ukraine and the media’s numbness to the stream of Obamacare travails is providing time and a smokescreen for Obama to prepare a big announcement for after March 31, 2014: The BIG PUNT, i.e. a delay in the individual mandate.

The White House and their Democratic allies must realize that they are on a trajectory to lose the Senate in 2014 and are likely coming to terms with the idea that delaying the individual mandate is one way to attempt to change that path. Look for the president to bite the bullet and give in to the vulnerable Democrats, consultants, pundits and other credible handwringers who are telling the president they must try anything and everything to alter the course of the elections. Otherwise, the last two years of the president’s time in office will be spent either vetoing or signing into law Republican legislation, and only conservative-approved nominees will be confirmed for any federal post by a Republican Senate.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abolishobamacare; democratcare; demsobamacare; donkeycare; hagan; individualmandate; jackasscare; landrieu; obamacare; punt
Obamacare is a terminal political cancer for incumbent Senate Democrats, including senators Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) and Mark Begich (D-Ala.). Senators Mark Udall (D-Colo.) and Mark Warner (D-Va.) are showing early stage symptoms as well. Combine those races with the open seats in West Virginia, South Dakota, Iowa and Michigan and it’s obvious the Democrats are struggling.

Will Hussein punt in his mom jeans? Won't this make the repeal complete? Are all Americans still liars? Stay tuned...

1 posted on 03/06/2014 5:27:12 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

So Palin and now Cruz proven right


2 posted on 03/06/2014 5:35:50 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Libloather

Has no one figured out that the individual mandate has nothing to do with the explosion in the cost of insurance?? It will have no effect on the declining access to health care. It will not stop tens of thousands of doctors leaving the profession. It will not stop millions of Mexican invaders from joining the free health care crowds.

Delaying it will have no effect on those losing non compliant policies, nor will it mitigate 50%-300% premium increases.

It just means that [for a limited time] we won’t be fined by the government for being driven into poverty by ObamaCare.

BFD

Thank you John “the traitor” Roberts.


3 posted on 03/06/2014 5:37:35 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Libloather

If it’s such a wonderful, urgently needed program, why delay it????


4 posted on 03/06/2014 5:38:57 PM PST by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: Libloather

He cannot unilaterally delay the mandate can he?

That’s what the most recent gov’t shutdown was about - writing legislation to delay the mandate.

Senator Cruz, please preempt this move.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 5:39:23 PM PST by Principled
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To: Libloather

It’s too late anyway. All this would do is postpone the fines.

The whole system has been thrown into upheaval, the Jeannie is out of the bottle.

People have already had their hours cut, been laid off, lost their existing policies and grappled with the exchanges because of this POS.

The only people loving this are the LIVs on Medicaid.


6 posted on 03/06/2014 5:39:32 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Ditto what you said....


7 posted on 03/06/2014 5:40:20 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Libloather
Won't this make the repeal complete? Are all Americans still liars?

They'll just declare it to be the fault of the GOP.
8 posted on 03/06/2014 5:40:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: headstamp 2

I bet the liberals sure are pissed. My wife was talking to some and they were saying stuff like “well, once everyone is on it the prices will come down...”.


9 posted on 03/06/2014 5:42:22 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

“I bet the liberals sure are pissed. My wife was talking to some and they were saying stuff like “well, once everyone is on it the prices will come down...”

Is your wife still on the floor laughing?

Liberals live in a fantasy world.


10 posted on 03/06/2014 5:47:15 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Libloather

So “no pre-existing conditions” is still in place, but the individual mandate will be axed. The cost figures were based, erroneously I might add, on the fines driving people to acquire coverage. Without the mandate in place there is no good reason to purchase coverage for those who didn’t want insurance in the first place.

Thus, the insurance companies are left holding the bag. They are forced to offer more expensive plans with fewer people enrolled, but the pool of people covered is effectively expanded.

It was clear from the beginning that the whole ACA was intended to drive the insurance companies out of the health care market and “force” the government to step in with single payer.


12 posted on 03/06/2014 5:51:57 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: 4Liberty

because...see my tagline

They know this is true.


13 posted on 03/06/2014 5:54:18 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 4Liberty
The idea from the start was to build a consensus for a single-payer national health care insurance scheme. Either bankrupt the insurance companies with untenable mandates or foment such chaos that a majority would welcome the expansion of Medicare to all ages.
14 posted on 03/06/2014 5:57:29 PM PST by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: Libloather

The Obama amoeba.
It morphs weekly.
At least now I can see why they needed the 15,000 additional attorneys and accountants to administer the constant revisions.


15 posted on 03/06/2014 5:57:58 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Libloather

The only question that maters is, “How many uninsured are there now, versus before ObamaCare?

The 47 million, the 47 million, the 47 million uninsured, the 47 million uninsured ... THAT was the rationale for ObamaCare ... so, how many uninsured do we have now?


16 posted on 03/06/2014 6:02:28 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Principled

Of course he can. Because he’s Obama.


17 posted on 03/06/2014 6:02:57 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Libloather

BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT..Obama mocked Senator Ted Cruz and his palls called him and those who wanted to delay the mandate “TEA-Bagger Terrorists”! So is OBAMA now saying Ted Cruz and the Tea Party were correct!?


18 posted on 03/06/2014 6:22:07 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Libloather
Pile on, Republicans!!! If the Clown capitulates on this, keep pounding this piece of CRAP LAW.
19 posted on 03/06/2014 6:23:42 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Libloather

Community organizing was a great part-time job to have, wasn’t it, Barry?


20 posted on 03/06/2014 6:27:02 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: 4Liberty

Exactly. In Nero’s own words, ‘it’s settled law.’


21 posted on 03/06/2014 6:30:35 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: Libloather
















If you like your doctor You can keep your doctor


22 posted on 03/06/2014 7:05:57 PM PST by devolve (- Tell Vladimir after my erection I have more FLEXIBILITY -- I need more SPACE - BHO Jr -)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

they know what obamacare has done, it’s all a desired effect. zeke confirmed what obama said back in 2008 about single payer. that’s what it is supposed to bring about.

government as provider, decider and denier.


23 posted on 03/06/2014 7:12:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: the_Watchman
It was clear from the beginning that the whole ACA was intended to drive the insurance companies out of the health care market

No worries for the insurance companies. They have the "risk corridors" to subsidize their losses. They'll make out like bandits.

24 posted on 03/06/2014 7:15:05 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Libloather
THE LAST GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN HAD OBAMA *SHUTTING DOWN EVERYTHING FOR MAXIMUM PAIN TO (((AVOID))) THIS*

NOW HE ACTUALLY *PROPOSES* IT.

SO THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN WAS FOR ****ING NOTHING.


25 posted on 03/06/2014 7:20:28 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: cripplecreek

Didn’t you get a playbook?

This is obviously Bush’s fault...


26 posted on 03/06/2014 7:24:02 PM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: bigbob

Great tag line! :)


27 posted on 03/06/2014 7:37:55 PM PST by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: the_Watchman
Thus, the insurance companies are left holding the bag. They are forced to offer more expensive plans with fewer people enrolled, but the pool of people covered is effectively expanded.

This sentence makes sense to you?

28 posted on 03/06/2014 7:53:47 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Libloather

Will Speaker Boehner force Obama to obey “THE LAW OF THE LAND?”

Or will Speaker Boehner just continue to be a doormat “yes man” for any changes that Obama makes to Obamacare?


29 posted on 03/06/2014 8:05:59 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
It won't, but it is the most egregious aspect of Obamacare. The requirement that you have to buy a product whatever it costs and however bad/useless it is was not even present in Soviet Russia. It is the most reprehensible attack on our liberty in Obamacare.
30 posted on 03/06/2014 8:41:17 PM PST by expat2
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To: Libloather

bkmk


31 posted on 03/06/2014 11:11:02 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: spodefly
RE: “How many uninsured are there now, versus before ObamaCare?”

As you point out, THAT is the only important question.

The most recent national numbers I can find are about 1 month old.

3.1 million - under age 26, added to parent's policy by law.

2 million - new to Medicaid, about 4 million more renewed Medicaid.

Unknown Number - 3 million have signed up for ObamaCare policies, but how many were not insured before is not known.

So, maybe 6 million new people are now insured.

Only 40 million to go!

32 posted on 03/07/2014 1:14:25 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: devolve

The problem was, "peregruzka" doesn't mean reset. It means overcharged, or overloaded.
33 posted on 03/07/2014 1:25:28 AM PST by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Libloather

I can’t wait to see how the Stupid Party manages to turn this debacle into obama’s crowning success in time for the fall elections.

GOP mouthpieces will likely be seen daily on the news praising the hero obama for postponing obamacare and helping out the people. (They’ll also put in a plug for amnesty as long as the camera is there and running.)

Jonny McCain will be leading the pack once he takes over for Carney as obama’s spokeswar”hero”person.

If I sound excited, it’s because I am.


34 posted on 03/07/2014 2:59:19 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: the_Watchman
It was clear from the beginning that the whole ACA was intended to drive the insurance companies out of the health care market and “force” the government to step in with single payer.

I know that most liberals have a remarkable inability to think logically, or to foresee the most obvious consequences of liberal policies, but isn't it likely that at least a few liberals will put 2 and 2 together and realize that the government's incompetence at running the medical insurance industry indicates that it will also not be competent at running the health care industry?

Seriously, what do the lawyers running the government know about health care?

35 posted on 03/07/2014 3:40:52 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Libloather

- “It was a new intern on my staff - Monica something…….”


36 posted on 03/07/2014 6:56:57 AM PST by devolve (- Tell Vladimir after my erection I have more FLEXIBILITY -- I need more SPACE - BHO Jr -)
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To: Libloather

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz: I meant what I said — we’re running on ObamaCare next year

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/14/debbie-wasserman-schultz-i-meant-what-i-said-were-running-on-obamacare-next-year/


37 posted on 03/07/2014 7:12:15 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: sefarkas

But, by breaking the insurance companies hold on the healthcare market a pivot to a free market system can also be had. This is an opportunity.

Most medical costs are driven by state and local regulations that limit medical competition. The FedGov has lowered prices via reimbursement limitations, but the real action is local.


38 posted on 03/07/2014 6:23:52 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: All
Democrats realize they are on a trajectory to lose the Senate in 2014 .....the little jerks making moves on the Godzillian O/Care monster rampaging through our healthcare system is one way braindead pols think they might save their sorry ***es......

The thought of losing their seats is giving Dems nightmares (and bad cases of crotch itch)..... never fear, vote-crazed Dems got endless vote fraud tricks up their sleeves.

Republicans need to be alert----Obama went on latino TV whining about "underdeserved" latinos and is conniving to get them enrolled.

INCONVENIENT FACTOID Latinos do not need to pay for O/Care---they can get free healthcare any frickin' time they want it.

Obama's "latino enrollment" scam is a ruse to get vote-crazed Dems illegals on the Dem rolls. NOTE WELL healthcare.gov is also a voter registration site. Tricky Democrats can easily plug in enrollees into their voter rolls.....and count them as votes on election day.

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Here's how the tricky Dems are working the enrollment voter scam: O/Care's Oregon state exchange "accidentally" enrolled 4000 illegals

PASS THE WORD: This is a scam. Enrolling illegals was no accident. Obamacare web sites are also setup to accept voter registrations.

In Oregon vote-crazed Dems racked up 4000 votes (that we know of) to help them survive looming 2014 midterms).

CONTACT Oklahoma Secy of State
313 NE 21st St
Oklahoma City, OK 73105
(405) 557-1700
TollFree: (866) 227-7784

BOOKMARK THIS Each state's Secretary of State is required to check into all cases of reported voter fraud. Course a Dem won't. But many states have Repub Secy's of State. They should be notified about illegals registering via O/Care.....and fraudulently plugged into Democrat voter rolls.

39 posted on 03/08/2014 4:42:14 AM PST by Liz
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To: All
......Obama always manages to be AWOL when blame is being assessed.....but somehow karma comes calling: 2010 elections were the first signs of Obamacare's toxicity. Back then, O/care was just a gazillion-page bill waiting to be implemented by bureaucratic vultures hovering over the dying body politic of US freedom. Now O/Care is a live parasite choking the life out of our health care system .... all thanks to Democrats straight party-line vote

LET'S STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature healthcare plan---ultimately enacted, by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote, into the "Affordable Care Act"

QUOTING 2008 OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”

Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American family would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

Significantly, Obamba NEVER corrected lock-stepping Democrats, all reading from the same Democrat talking points, all of them repeating the same Democrat promises---over and over again.

LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE Obama And the Dems marched in lockstep.....the persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

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Even if Obama manages to escape the O/Care stigma, he is toxic for Dems---all of them super-glued onto his persona......

BACKSTORY In 2009, retiring Arkansas Rep. Marion Berry presciently warned that ObamaCare was setting up Democrats for a huge 2010 midterm defeat; just as “HillaryCare” led to Democrat loss of 54 House seats in 1994.

Obama scoffed at such concerns; he told Berry, “Well, the big difference here is you’ve got me.”

SO MUCH FOR O'S EGOTISM 2010 Republicans went on to win 63 House seats and six Senate seats.....the largest swing to Repubs in the House since 1938. So Obama was right---the difference was him. ROTFL.

On to 2014.

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ALL TOGETHER, NOW----LET'S HUM THE THEME FROM "JAWS" White House chief of staff Denis McDonough held an unpublicized meeting with Sen. Michael Bennet (DIMWIT-Colo), chairman of the Senate Democrats’ campaign arm, amid anger and anxiety that ObamaCare’s botched rollout could cost the party its majority next year.

In the meeting, requested by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC), McDonough and Bennet discussed what the White House could do to help vulnerable Senate Democrats and “talked about developing a stronger relationship with the White House.”

(That cockamamie idea was quickly discarded. After all, Democrats reasoned, who would believe a ditzy story like that.....other than the brain dead MSM media.)

Democratic senators fear the White House is not sympathetic enough to their plight. After the government shutdown, they were confident they would retain the Senate, maybe even retake the House; but Dem optimism vanished as problems with the healthcare law mounted.

(The buzz is Speaker-wannabe Pelosi disconsolately went back to sucking up everything in sight.)

“I know these guys are nervous as hell. I mean, all of their jobs are on the line because Obamacare is the thing making the biggest political waves lately. It’s a nightmare,” Denis whined.

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WATTA RELIEF--DEMOCRATS COME UP WITH THE ONLY WORKABLE SOLUTION Obama recently announced the White House's 2014 Senate strategy: "Keep Obama away." The extensive midterm campaign strategy is built around one unavoidable fact: Hardly any candidates in the most competitive states want President Barack Obama anywhere near them on the campaign trail.

40 posted on 03/08/2014 4:51:39 AM PST by Liz
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Democrats are frantic.....wishing they hadn't said "you can keep your plans, America." But they cannot wish away the destruction their historic straight party-line vote foisted on Americans:

(1) throwing Americans off affordable health plans,

(2) burdening Americans w/ ruinous deductibles,

(3) nationalizing 1/6 of the US economy,

(4) abandoning the elderly and the chronically ill,

(5) empowering IPAB's (Death Panels),

(6) decimating intergenerational transfers of wealth,

(7) drug rationing for seniors,

(8) pulling $750 million out of Medicare,

(9) more and more taxes......and so on.

There's a mother lode of distrust out there generated by Obama himself via his Godzillian Obama/Care blunder.

Trusting Americans are not used to being lied to by their president. Now, they are disillusioned b/c Obama promised over and over that they could keep their plans.

Americans are learning that, far from being a national asset, Obama/Care is political flim-flam, a shady ruse being used to forward Obama's socialistic goals.

41 posted on 03/08/2014 4:59:51 AM PST by Liz
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