Skip to comments.Russian Warship Sunk Off Crimea
Posted on 03/06/2014 6:48:33 PM PST by artichokegrower
The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense released the above image today showing the Russian Navys Ochakov, a Kara-class cruiser, which was intentionally sunk last night to blockade the Ukrainian Navy ships located in Novoozerne.
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Well they told us the Pope embraced civil unions for homos and that the Muslim Brotherhood was moderate... seems legit.
Sky News (UK) does pretty well.
.....And a CNN anchorlady actually believes, or believed that “global warming” could make meteor strikes more likely.
(She asked that of Bill Nye The “Science” Guy on air anyway. I’m a little surprised the moron didn’t say that it was.)
Demolition team could split it with high explosives but a big mess and not quick to get it cleaned up.
Damn, global warming must have done the sinking.
On 2nd thought, probably not or the mainstream media would have told us about this.
Russia scuttled it. If a Demo team approached they would simply wave them off (under arms) claiming salvage rights. “No, Anatov, that was a mistake we made, she sunk accidently! We wish to raise this ship so it can sail again! Will only take 5 months or so!”
The ship they sunk in the channel was the Ochakov. a Kara-Class late-60’s-era cruiser, that was already heading for the scrapper’s torch.
Laid up for 27 years, since 1987. Was to be rebuilt in the 90’s, but caught fire in the yard, heavily damaging it. Finally was written off and decommissioned in 2011.
Yes, junk scrap metal that made a nice bar across the door.
In Russian, it would be "... he sunk accidently."
I think it would be "sank accidently, but whatever.
Good enough for me. </snort>
seeing they could do a blockade with ships they didn’t have to sink, i don’t quite believe this bs.
Interesting side note:
The inlet that the Ukrainian fleet is bottled up in was the old Soviet Hovercraft and Assault Landing Craft base, and at one time housed thousands of Naval Marines.
In Russian, military ships are referred to as `he’, but civilian vessels are `she’.
Putin, the new rise of Hitler.
“global warming could make meteor strikes more likely.”
Gee, hot things expand, that is get bigger, so earth would be a bigger target? She must be right. I mean news people know everything.
Or....Ukranians sank it.
During the Revolutionary war, Rochambeau's fleet blockaded the Chesapeake, putting the British ships "up the creek" one might say and a few days later "turned the world upside down".
Specs, etc., for the Ochakov:
569 ft. long - not exactly a rowboat.
I wonder if the Ukrainians were going to try to break out and the Russkies got wind of it.
Can’t wait for Putin’s explanation...
Does this qualify as an act of war?
Most misleading headline, ever.
She looks in a hell of a lot better shape than the vessels in our mothball fleet!
All news media is trash today.
Amateurish: little background on subject, few true subject matter experts, pressure to report quickly (little fact checking)
Biased: ideologically bent by journalists and editors. Feeding their demographic or psycho graphic target audience. CNN goes so far that stories will often vary substantially depending where one is watching because they cater to their market.
No consequences to journalists in reality (libel/slander) and no real professional licensing/credentialing. So there is little concern in consequences for getting it wrong or purposefully doing wrong.
Influenced by political forces (be nice/play along and you’ll get access)
Influenced by money from sponsors.
Restricted because of safety, insurance...
Lazy and willing to often “go along” when being spoon fed.
What sells: pictures, video, conflict, sex, violence, celebrity stories are preferred, and real news is often overlooked because it’s just not “sensational” enough. Even the morning weather has to be made into a sensational story with some sort of conflict.
The story has to be kept short, and what we call in depth is a 3 minute story that is really a superficial gloss over. The story also has to be dumbed down so someone with little knowledge can comprehend what is being discussed: oversimplification.
What we call news is trash. Editorialized trash (journalism vs. reporting) where an entire story could be condensed to a mere paragraph in factual information, the rest simply being opinions, extrapolations, and the discussion of feelings. Repetitive crap by pretty people that are demographically diverse and can talk quickly.
The news has become near pure entertainment, from which little actionable information is gained by the viewer. The viewer watches or listens for affirmation, not to actually receive information upon which decisions can be made. The news is basically operating in the realm of “feelings.”
But there is an upside to our news media. At least most Americans can find the Ukraine on a political map today, because they surely didn’t learn this in their high quality public education.
The ship was one of the late casualties of the break up of the Soviet Union. Oddly enough it was built in a Ukrainian shipyard. The paint was probably the primer before a finish coat when the ship was laid up for overhaul. That was never completed. Instead the ship was simply removed and docked.
Lots of Soviet naval vessels undergoing repair or construction such as the Chinese carrier met a similar end. The Chinese carrier was originally abandoned by the Soviets at the same complex that built the now scuttled ship.
Yes. A blockade is an "act of war" -- whether passive (as in this case) or active.
But I think we're well past that...
One of Putin’s “Cash for Clunkers” ships.
Now swimming with the fishes, KGB style.
A Kara would have been a butt-kicker back in the day....according to Harpoon
That’s what I thought.
Talk about “In your face”...
This article gives a better perspective (through pictures and article) of the Ochakov.
does this prevent NATO assets from entering the black sea?
It could happen.
no, we have a DD enroute into there through the Bosporus. bigger question is, will USN assets in the Black Sea be targets for Russian missiles and land based air.
What are the bright colored objects?
It has been about 4 years since I toured the harbor at Sevastopol
t that time both fleets looked poorly with the heavier stuff laid up
Fleet auxiliaries looked all right but the shipyards weren’t working
reports are now that they sank 2 ships
The Russians only blocked a passage from an inlet / harbor / “lake” to the Black Sea. If you look at Google Maps (etc.) for Donuzlav Lake, Crimea, you can see the obvious spot to block.
I probably should not say “only”. It’s still a big “in your face” act of war.
WHOA I wonder this accident it was just set up
So the ship is Fredo LOL!