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Call made for slavery reparations from abroad
The British Virgin Islands Beacon ^ | March 6, 2014 | Bailey Penn

Posted on 03/06/2014 7:29:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It is time for the calls for reparations to the descendants of those who were enslaved by colonial powers via the trans-Atlantic slave trade to bear fruit. The European countries and the United States need to compensate for the injustices suffered by slaves and their families. African-Americans and African-Caribbean intellectuals have been agitating for reparations for many years, but the question as to how the compensation would be calculated and in what form is yet to be answered.

Since 1999, the African World Reparations and Repatriation Truth Commission called for the West to pay trillions of dollars to Africa. In 2004, a coalition of Rastafari movement groups in Jamaica followed suit with their call to the European countries, especially Britain, to pay 72.5 trillion pounds sterling to resettle 500,000 Jamaican Rastafarians in Africa. Guyana made its call for reparations to the European nations in 2007, while Antigua and Barbuda followed in 2011, claiming that slaves were segregated and violently abused.

In 2012, the Barbados government set up a 12-member Reparations Task Force, to be responsible for sustaining the local, regional and international momentum for reparations. Last year, during the first of a series of lectures in Georgetown, Guyana to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the 1763 Berbice Slave Revolt, a call was made urging the Caribbean Community to emulate the Jews’ action of organising a Jewish Reparations Fund for their persecution during World War II.

Broken promises

After its Civil War, the United States promised to compensate the freed slaves with acres of land which many did not receive, and the lands of many who did receive were taken back from them to be given to the white immigrants who arrived later. If the slaves had received the land as promised, the lives of their offspring would have been better today. Scientists in the medical field have proven that some of the genetic illnesses of Africans and their descendants are related to their poor diet as slaves.

I think that the call for reparations is a just call, and I fully support it. Many who do not know the full history of the African culture and the culture of the Atlantic slave trade are of the opinion that reparations are unjust because Africans enslaved their own people.

African slavery

Slavery was and still remains in existence to some extent in Africa. But the conditions under which slavery is carried out in Africa are more of an arrangement rather than Africans being taken away from their families and put to work far away from their homeland and culture under inhuman conditions. They were forced to work long hours without pay, and they were stripped of their personal and cultural identity.

The conditions of slavery in Africa, on the other hand, occurred when two villages fought against each other, and the victorious village would take the villagers of the losing village into slavery. The enslaved would perform the same work they did before, while others were trained. The working conditions were the same as before they were enslaved, and some slaves took the places of the victorious village soldiers when they died, even becoming leaders of the village that once enslaved them.

When word of massive ill-treatment being meted out to slaves that were sold to the colonial powers got back to Africa, the African countries tried to stop the selling of their people, but Europe and the US, so caught up in their greed for the products that were produced from free labour, continued to enslave Africans by force.

The so-called churches did nothing to stop the brutal enslavement of Africans. Instead, the Methodist Church used to bless the slave ships, while the Catholic Church used to buy and sell slaves in Hispaniola.

During a conference on racism in South Africa — which the US did not attend — the previous pope apologised for the role the Catholic Church played in the slave trade. But both the Methodist and Catholic churches also should have to pay a big fine — as should Lloyd’s of London, for its role in insuring the slave ships.

Also during the South Africa conference, the Netherlands apologised for its role in the trade, rightly noting that the slaves made the colonial countries very wealthy with free labour.

The Quakers

Meanwhile, the Quakers were the first religious people to oppose slavery. They would buy slaves and set them free. My white ancestor, William Penn, was a Quaker, and I am proud of his stance against slavery. Many have agreed that wiping out the debt of the countries that were directly affected by slavery and building infrastructure is a fair way to compensate for the brutality of the Atlantic slave trade.

For those in the Caribbean who are against reparations and feel no connection to Africa, I hope their countries do not receive reparations. I would also like to see the Virgin Islands join Caricom in the pursuit of reparations for the descendants of African slaves from the former colonial powers.

Unexpected humour

A Beaconite who frequently writes about the territory’s financial services industry will readily admit that it’s not usually the most engaging or humour-provoking topic. But Financial Services Commission Managing Director Robert Mathavious did a good job of proving otherwise during a lecture at H. Lavity Stoutt Community College last Thursday. His speech provoked a few laughs from the audience, particularly when he momentarily forgot what FATCA, an abbreviation for an American tax law, stood for. “Let me not tell you what it means; let me tell you what it really means: Finding American tax cheats abroad,” he said. (The abbreviation actually stands for Foreign Accounts Tax Compliance Act.) Additionally, a Beaconite was bemused when Mr. Mathavious described other countries’ attempts to replicate the success of the territory’s 1984 International Business Companies Act. “Others have sought to copy this act — some even its spelling mistakes,” he said. “None has quite succeeded in matching its impact and attraction.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: britain; caribbean; reparations; virginislands
Yes, he's serious.
1 posted on 03/06/2014 7:29:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Britain, to pay 72.5 trillion pounds sterling to resettle 500,000 Jamaican Rastafarians in Africa”
That figure is NOT serious.


2 posted on 03/06/2014 7:35:13 PM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I know! I know what they want!

Everybody with a "smidgen" of black blood gets to own a white slave!

I'm right, aren't I?

3 posted on 03/06/2014 7:37:50 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I know! I know what they want!

Everybody with a "smidgen" of black blood gets to own a white slave!

I'm right, aren't I?

4 posted on 03/06/2014 7:37:56 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I favor reparations for enslaving of ancestors. My ancestors were enslaved and pillaged by Romans, Vikings and English. I need to investigate. The Romans may have done it vicariously. If so, they Italians can write a slightly smaller check.

I'd like checks from Italy, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and England. When I get those we can talk about possible compensation for others who, like me, were never enslaved.

5 posted on 03/06/2014 7:38:00 PM PST by stevem
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, since less than 5% of African slaves were shipped to what is now the USA, the USA only has to pay 5% of the total amount, right?
6 posted on 03/06/2014 7:38:23 PM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Since whites pay the vast majority of taxes for all the wonderful welfare programs, that is already happening.


7 posted on 03/06/2014 7:40:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Reply Made From The United States” - piss off.


8 posted on 03/06/2014 7:43:58 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Since Arab slave traders were very much involved in the slavery of a large number of Africans, I agree to pay my fair share, as soon as ISLAM pays through the nose!


9 posted on 03/06/2014 7:45:14 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While realizing the ‘instigating’ countries have virtually nothing.....

If there are going to be Reparations shouldn’t they start with the tribes that tracked down and sold the slaves to the ‘Transporters’?

Considering by the time they got to say New Orleans, they had been sold (or bartered) about 3 or 4 times so by the time they got to the ‘Plantations’ they had been enslaved for a while.

Maybe somewhere in there we can find a few pounds for the Irish that were transported here (in steerage by the way, with conditions about the same as the passage from Africa) to do the bidding for the British ‘Masters’.


10 posted on 03/06/2014 7:46:37 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --In CNNs (feeble) mind, EVERYONE that doesnt ask for more Kool-Aid is bullying BO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Re: Call made for slavery reparations from a broad”.

What is the broad’s name? I’ll send her a free ticket back to Jungleland.


11 posted on 03/06/2014 7:49:37 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: freerepublicchat

The number of Africans seized and exported as slaves is no where near this made up number. Prof. Adams of Howard Un. read the shipping manifests of the slave ships that he could find in Cuba, Portugal and the US and concluded that it was physically impossible to ship that many people across the Atlantic with the small number of ships involved in the slave trade.

Remember, a slave ship returned EMPTY and each trip took weeks or months, each way, so 50% of these transAtlantic trips contained no human cargo.

These supposed figures have been used by black marxists and racists/reparationists for years, without any proof from the ship manifests mentioned above.

How do you say “SCAM” and self-promotion con-job looking for a well paying job?


12 posted on 03/06/2014 7:56:15 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They sold their own people. Maybe they can get those people to pay?


13 posted on 03/06/2014 7:59:01 PM PST by boycott
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To: boycott

In Africa hey sold their own people into slavery.

In this country there were thousands of blacks who owned slaves. Some were slave breeders and sold their own offspring into slavery.


14 posted on 03/06/2014 8:02:53 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
After its Civil War, the United States promised to compensate the freed slaves with acres of land which many did not receive, and the lands of many who did receive were taken back from them to be given to the white immigrants who arrived later.

I have no clue what he's talking about here.

There was never a formal promise of land made to the slaves.

Freedmen who acquired land often were pressured to sell it back to white men, or killed it they refused. But those white men were very seldom, if ever, immigrants.

15 posted on 03/06/2014 8:04:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Something about General Sherman and 40 acres & a mule or some such. Fine, we have LOTS of land in Alaska, Idaho and etc. and I’m sure the mule ranchers will be happier than hell to sell us several million.


16 posted on 03/06/2014 8:06:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

who the hell cares what this nit-wit thinks or wants????


17 posted on 03/06/2014 8:17:30 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Reparations?


18 posted on 03/06/2014 8:17:31 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Making a quick buck off great-grand daddy’s suffering.


19 posted on 03/06/2014 8:34:47 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. -M. Twain)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

From the way he puts it, slavery in Africa sounds almost fun! Why, a slave might one day become chief of the town that enslaved him!/sarcasm


20 posted on 03/06/2014 8:46:07 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I see in a previous article, this guy think gay marriage should be imposed on the Virgin Islands. So, I guess this guy is colonist who wants to impose rich white people’s morals on the Virgin Islands.


21 posted on 03/06/2014 8:49:55 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Funny how Muslims never get any blame for slavery.

Doofuses, look up Zanzibar just for starters.
http://www.zanzibar.net/history/the_slave_trade

Muslim Slave Trade enslaved Millions of Black Africans
http://www.truthandgrace.com/muslimslavery.htm

22 posted on 03/06/2014 9:08:41 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Money-grubbing scam.

End of story.

Give the jerks a bag of rice and a loincloth and send ‘em all back to Africa.


23 posted on 03/06/2014 9:18:25 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: griswold3

£145 million each?! Is my math correct? Must be smoking powerful stuff down there.


24 posted on 03/06/2014 9:40:56 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

700,000 dead Americans paid the ultimate price over slavery. Tens of thousands more gave arms and legs in the same cause.

Reparations have been paid in full in blood and lives.

My figures are for every five slaves freed one white man was slaughtered.


25 posted on 03/06/2014 9:45:53 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

***Everybody with a “smidgen” of black blood gets to own a white slave! ***

DON’T LAUGH! I’ve got several post Civil War cartoons dealing with the FREED MAN’S BUREAU showing the white man slaving away to pay for the indolent black man. I’ve posted these on FR and the mods immediately remove them even though they are from the late 1860s.


26 posted on 03/06/2014 9:49:12 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reparations have been paid in blood and treasure many times over.


27 posted on 03/06/2014 10:34:08 PM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If we are going tribal I want to bill for today’s murders, assaults, robberies, burglaries, theft, room, board and vandalism.


28 posted on 03/06/2014 10:54:50 PM PST by Psalm 144 (My citizenship is not here, Pharaoh.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You guys got paid the first time, fair and square.

You can’t write an addendum to the original contract hundreds of years later....

GFY


29 posted on 03/06/2014 11:27:30 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now that I think of it.

You sold us junk goods.

We want a refund.


30 posted on 03/06/2014 11:29:57 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m all for making the Democrats pay reparations for what they did. Republicans, on the other hand, freed the slaves, so we should be exempt. In fact, Republicans should also get reparations from Democrats for the losses they suffered fighting them to free the slaves.


31 posted on 03/07/2014 3:38:41 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t doubt that the whining from the Caribbean is tied to the fact that tourism is dropping (as everything is due to the economic mess Obama is prolonging). Apparently any time the easy money dries up (including with welfare here), it brings out the same outstretched black palms in whites’ faces.

This is a side effect of Planned Parenthood’s plan to eradicate blacks taking longer than anticipated.


32 posted on 03/07/2014 3:48:28 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I figured probably a 1/3 of the $1M + of fed income tax I have paid in my life has gone to the entitlement slugs. If that ain’t enough slavery reparation, I don’t know what is.


33 posted on 03/07/2014 3:50:27 AM PST by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes, he's serious.


34 posted on 03/07/2014 4:08:26 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is no compensation for slavery. All those enslaved are now dead, as are the enslavers.

Is Rome going to pay Great Britain for the enslvement of her people? Is Saudi Arabia going to pay whites and blacks both (slavery existed there, legally, until the 1960s, and probably still does, illegally. ASk numerous Philippine housemaids)?

Some people need to get over themselves and try to make something of their lives, instead of demanding that other people be “sensitive” to their racially charged tantrums.

Just saying.

35 posted on 03/07/2014 5:56:45 AM PST by chesley
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To: chesley

Let those who were actually enslaved get reparations from those who actually enslaved them....not from present day descendants who are neither slave owners or the enslaved.


36 posted on 03/07/2014 11:27:39 AM PST by oldtech
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When word of massive ill-treatment being meted out to slaves that were sold to the colonial powers got back to Africa, the African countries tried to stop the selling of their people, but Europe and the US, so caught up in their greed for the products that were produced from free labour, continued to enslave Africans by force.

That sounds to me like an unmitigated LIE.

37 posted on 03/08/2014 3:05:31 AM PST by Vanders9
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