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Russian soldiers training in Canada given 24 hours to leave country
CTV News ^ | 3-6-2014 | Andrea Janus

Posted on 03/06/2014 10:37:29 PM PST by tcrlaf

Nine Russian soldiers who were participating in military exercises in Canada have been expelled from the country, as Ottawa continues to denounce Russia’s military intervention in Crimea, CTV News has learned.

A government source confirmed that the soldiers were informed Thursday afternoon that they had 24 hours to leave Canada.

Six of the soldiers were in Saint-Jean, Que., where they were learning English and French. Another two soldiers were participating in a training program at CFB Gagetown, and the ninth soldier was teaching Canadian soldiers Russian in Gatineau, Que.The move comes days after Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced that all planned bilateral activities between the Canadian Armed Forces and the military of the Russian Federation are suspended, including exercises such as NORAD's Exercise Vigilant Eagle.

On Thursday, Harper said the government would not recognize the results of a referendum in Crimea on whether to join Russia because the region is “currently under illegal military occupation.”

(Excerpt) Read more at ctvnews.ca ...


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: canada; crimea; russia; ukraine
Canada is being firmer with Russia than ObamaCarter is.
1 posted on 03/06/2014 10:37:29 PM PST by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

well that’s nine anyways


2 posted on 03/06/2014 10:47:03 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: tcrlaf; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

3 posted on 03/06/2014 10:50:10 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: tcrlaf

“Canada is being firmer with Russia than ObamaCarter is. “

I’d take Harper in the White Hut in a heartbeat over the turd we have.


4 posted on 03/06/2014 11:16:56 PM PST by vette6387
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To: tcrlaf

The McDonald’s in Russia is actually a subsidiary of McDonald’s of Canada. Russia may start playing games too.


5 posted on 03/06/2014 11:20:13 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Politics is so much fun.;-)


6 posted on 03/07/2014 12:40:48 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: tcrlaf; Squawk 8888

Harper knows that the Russians are only 45 minutes away from Canada’s Northern Reaches, where they are poised to violate Canada’s Sovereignty, and claim the oil resources under the ice.

And Harper has no military to protect Canada.( 100,000 men and women in the Canadian Armed Forces in a population of 30 million plus, not enough even to protect Ottawa). And will Obama help Canada .......NOPE....all former alliances with the USA are OFF and up for “Obama” redefinition.

Harper is nervous , as he should be. Damned right he is kicking Ivan’s ass. He has very little else he can do. In 5 years Canada could be speaking Russian as its official language, just like Poland could be.

We are on the brink of harvesting the gross stupidy of the Trudeau years which caused the Canadian Military to become just another collective of civil servants, and the gradual transmorgrification of the Canadian Mlitary into a bilingual force prepared to die wholesale in 2 languages
in defence of a nation where solialized medicine health care consumes 50% of the federal budget, far outstripping the military budget.

That bird of Canada’s military reductionism is about to come home to roost. It could cause the deaths of millions of Canadians and a loss of the Northwest Territories , and the Yukon, or maybe the whole nation.

Canada does not even have its own nukes!

All Harper CAN do is send Ivan home from Base Gagetown, besides hautily refusing the Russians heated latrines at latitude 5 degrees.


7 posted on 03/07/2014 2:00:03 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

Canada has nukes in the sense that Puerto Rico does; it isn’t an independent country in the sense that the US or Russia is. I believe the Queen of England is still their sovereign (she is on their money, and I believe there is an official residence there). No offense to Canadians, but their legal status is different.


8 posted on 03/07/2014 3:42:34 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Canada has been fully independent since 1982, and has been functionally so since 1931. Sharing the same monarch is meaningless when she is a constitutional one who is entirely answerable to her various parliaments.


9 posted on 03/07/2014 4:05:18 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: tcrlaf

In all fairness to Obama, only Canada and the U.S. have announced that they won’t be attending the G-8. Only Canada and U.S. have taken any steps sanctioning Russia for its actions. Europe is the one who is rolling over for Putin.


10 posted on 03/07/2014 4:05:33 AM PST by Lower Deck
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To: kearnyirish2

BTW, there hasn’t been a ‘Queen of England’ since Elizabeth I died. The Kingdom of England ceased to exist following the 1707 Act of Union.


11 posted on 03/07/2014 4:06:43 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

OK, we’ll call the English queen whatever you prefer. When was the last monarch who wasn’t “English”?


12 posted on 03/07/2014 4:11:14 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
Canada has nukes in the sense that Puerto Rico does; it isn’t an independent country in the sense that the US or Russia is.

Completely false. Canada is an independent sovereign nation.

13 posted on 03/07/2014 4:25:56 AM PST by Lower Deck
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To: Lower Deck

How long before they get “political protection” on U.S. soil? It won’t be a very far walk across the border, hell its done all the time. (sarc)


14 posted on 03/07/2014 4:28:31 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Candor7

I’m a vet of the Canadian army, did 10 years and 3 tours.

I can tell you with absolute certainty, that no country will roll over this one without losing everything they have. In Korea we took on 10,000 chinese with 224 men in the Battle of Kapyong, that’s just one. History here is full of example of battles against the odds.

I own many firearms, my battle rifle is a 7.62mm semi auto XCR. Here in Alberta, everyone has guns, it won’t be easy for anyone. The army these days is getting gayified, but us locals aren’t.

I don’t think Canada’s military is what it used to be because of all the political correct BS, among other things, but don’t underestimate the will of the people living here. We out west can’t even accept Ottawa’s rule, let alone anyone else. We are free loving, gun toting, in my case God fearing...rednecks.


15 posted on 03/07/2014 5:07:46 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: tcrlaf

Wow. This is getting cereal.


16 posted on 03/07/2014 5:14:34 AM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: kearnyirish2
I believe the Queen of England is still their sovereign

Nope, our sovereign is the Queen of Canada. England has no say in our affairs.

17 posted on 03/07/2014 9:54:45 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: Bulwyf

Tanks....choppers with mini guns,,,,,tactical nukes.....

These put a very hard challenge to Canada’s Minutemen.

If push come to shove, you would need to grab every stick of dynamite stored in Alberta to even hope to conquer an invading Army of Russians, who would likely come in the middle of winter.

I have over 15 civilian versions of armed forces firearms. Ready to defend our neighborhood.Unless the feds will distribute a few thousand 50 cal. machine guns and ammo, and a few hundred tank busters, it would be a very hard thing to beat the Russians back.


18 posted on 03/07/2014 5:45:47 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

Let em come in winter:) they’ll find out how seasoned the Alberta lads are.

I don’t think it’s come to that yet, actually, I’d be keeping a close eye on the Chinese too.


19 posted on 03/07/2014 6:13:16 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf; Fred Nerks; Beckwith

We live in an era of tactical nuclear arms.(I do not worry about the Chinese much, they already have exploration leases on a vast amount of Canadian territory, unlike the Russians.)

And so our government must be NUCLEAR prepared to combat nuclear equipped invaders, even though we can wage assymetrical warfare against an enemy as a people.

My point is that our government MUST be prepared. If not, we will have to give up our life style to become the hunters .....and the hunted.And Canada will loose its entire North and its resources. We best all move to Australia right now?

The Government of Canada is not prepared. And it cannot afford to be prepared at this point, nor will it, unless it gives up its erroneous leftist musings , and so must the NDP and the Liberal Party give up their socialist , leftist entitlement musings, if Canada is to survive as a nation.We would not survive another poofter interlude with the likes of Justin Trudeau as Prime Minister , for example.

Hell the Russians have been knocking at Canada’s Northern door for 20 years and most Canadians do not even know it.
In light of Vlad the Shirtless’s Crimean invasion-non invasion,Canada HAS a lot to worry about.

See the heavily redacted Canada Government poofter assesment of risk below, which ignores current Russian expansionist policy. ( I have placed SIC where I thought it was needed.)

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RUSSIA’S ACTIVITIES IN THE ARCTIC

ISSUE

The announcement by Russian Minister of Defence, Anatoly Serdyukov, [1] on 1 Jul 2011 to “create” two new brigades for the Arctic follows through on commitments made in Russia’s Arctic policy released in 2009.

[redacted]

There is no doubt that the economic potential of the Arctic is a major driver of Moscow’s calculations. However, the extreme environment and long distances make the actual economic feasibility of [resource] extraction in the High North, beyond its [Russia’s] Exclusive Economic Zone prohibitively expensive. [redacted] (SIC)

[redacted]

BACKGROUND

On 1 July 2011, Russian Minister of Defence Anatoly Serdyukov announced that Russia will “create” two new military brigades in the Arctic (nearing 10,000 troops) to protect [Russia’s] interests in the North. This announcement follows through on commitments made in [2009’s] Fundamentals of the Russian Federation’s Policy in the Arctic for the Period Up To 2020 and Beyond – which calls for the creation of a new group of forces (primarily border guards) and a functional Coast Guard system. These measures, in addition to increased Arctic domain awareness, are intended to secure Russian Arctic borders.

CONSIDERATIONS

Russia

Since Russia embarked on its most recent iteration of military modernization and reforms in 2008, the emphasis has been on consolidating and amalgamating existing divisions and brigades to find efficiencies and reduce costs. With respect to the Arctic, ... [redacted]

[redacted]

[redacted] ... Among the Ministry of Defence’s top priorities during the past several years of reform has been the modernization and sustainment of its strategic nuclear forces and their means of delivery (eg, through development of the Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile). [Note: the RSM-56 Bulava is a submarine-launched ballistic missile for Borei-class SSBNs.]

[redacted]

[redacted] ... t also endorses the sanctity of international law and established global governance mechanisms as the preferred means of dispute resolution [redacted] Indeed, the recent conclusion of an agreement between Russia and Norway to delineate their maritime boundary in the Arctic is illustrative of Russia’s long-held public stance on international law and demonstrates a willingness by Moscow to act in a cooperative manner on Arctic issues. ( SIC)

Russian Surveying of the Seabed in the Arctic

Russian surveying of the seabed is consistent with the activities of littoral states all over the world, including in the Arctic, that are in the process of delineating their continental shelves pursuant to the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). ( SIC)

It is possible that the extended continental shelves of the Arctic Ocean coastal states will overlap but the extent and the location of these overlaps is not yet known. Any overlaps will be resolved by the states concerned through discussions, negotiations and/or arbitration, in accordance to international law. All Arctic Ocean coastal states reaffirmed this commitment in the May 2008 Ilulissat Declaration. [2]

The Economic Potential of the Arctic

With energy exports making up roughly one quarter of the total Russian GDP, there is no doubt that the economic potential of the Arctic is a major driver of Moscow’s northern strategy. At the end of 2010, Russia proper (i.e, not including any claims to the Arctic) possessed over 77 billion barrels of oil and nearly 45 trillion cubic metres of natural gas. Revenues from energy exports to Europe (and increasingly China) have steadily become the key enablers of Russia’s foreign and defence policy for over a decade, and there does not appear to be any signs that this situation will change in the near- to mid-term. That said, it is important to note that despite the broad range of estimates on the total amount of oil and natural gas reserves stored in the Arctic (up to 90 billion barrels of oil and 1.7 trillion cubic feet [.048 trillion m3] of natural gas according to the US Geological Survey, which was both probabilistic and based on limited data), the extreme environment and long distances make the actual economic feasibility of extraction from the Arctic basin probitively expensive – and even beyond current technological means in some cases. What has received little attention is the fact that the majority of known energy resrves in the Arctic already fall within the well-established Exclusive Economic Zones of the littoral Northern states, including Canada, and are therefore not subject to the UNCLOS-prescribed process to delineate the outer limits of the shelf beyond 200 nautical miles.

Other Considerations

A number of other consideraions should also be kept in mind with respect to Russia’s activities in the Arctic. First, Russia is on the verge of presidential elections in 2012, and [redacted]

[redacted]

[redacted]

Second, not withstanding disagreements with NATO surrounding the Conventional Armed Forces in Europe Treaty, Russia has the sovereign right to station its troops wherever it wants on Russian territory. While developments such this are no doubt of interest to Canada from a defence and sercurity perspective, [redacted]

[redacted]

Third, this latest announcement is also consistent with other lofty announcements in recent months, most notably Moscow’s stated commitment to increase military spending by $740 billion by 2020 ( [redacted] ... [redacted] Finally, [redacted]

COMMENT

While many observers have commented in the media on Russia’s perceived provocative actions in the Arctic, there has yet to be any serious cause for alarm. [redacted]

[redacted]

Moreover, DFAIT has noted in the past that both countries also share common challenges related to policy making in the Arctic. Indeed, these commonalities could yield political and commercial opportunities for cooperation between Moscow and Ottawa. From a Defence perspective, in spite of disagreements over Russian LRA flights, [3] there is mutual interest in regard to cooperation in SAR and Arctic domain awareness. Defence is continuing to explore the potential for further cooperation with Russian in these fields.

http://www.casr.ca/as-arctic-russian-risk-assessment.htm

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As you can see from the above Canadian Governments pansey poofter “risk assesment” The Russians are playing Canada like a fiddle while in 2011 they created and deployed 10,000 ( 2 brigades) of Russian Troops in their North.... this they will continue to do until they are ready to march into the Canadian Northern territory and take it, just like they are doing now in the Crimea.

Thats a fak , jack! The only way to deter the Russians in the North is through ready force of arms.

Canada has its head up its ass, the driving force of its poofter “risk assesment’ is the fact that the Canadian Government does not have the political will to cut entitlement programs ( taking up over 50% of the Canadian federal budget,socialized medicine needs to have a private pay option)and put the money into the Canadian military. Canada needs several combat ready brigades deployed in the North to secure its sovereignty.

I nominate Bulwyf to head the charge. ( Thank you for your service, lad.)


20 posted on 03/08/2014 2:05:56 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

I just came across on my bookshelf last night Richard Nixon’s book “The Real War”. Written a year before Reagan was elected; on how to fight the Soviets.

I think I will read it again. VERY similar circumstances as back then with an economy in shambles, poor American moral, a weakened military, etc.

Excerpt:

“Having dealt directly and at great length with the leaders of the Soviet Union I know that they exploit weakness but rspect strength. If they see a new strength in the American sinew....they will be more cautious in their adventuring, and they will be more realistic in their negotiating. If they think they can roll us, they will try to roll us.”


21 posted on 03/08/2014 2:36:29 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Candor7

You’re right about the damn taxes here, it drives me how much is wasted on absolute crap. Nowadays the military is more worried about flying a gay flag and paying for sex changes.

I think Western Canada needs to go it’s own way.

I think Canada gave up all it’s nukes in the late 80s, which wasn’t smart in my books.


22 posted on 03/08/2014 3:53:32 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

I think Canada gave up all it’s nukes in the late 80s, which wasn’t smart in my books.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ukraine gave up its nukes in 1994 in exchange for a security guarantee from the USA and the UK...not smart at all as recent events show us.

Canada will become the same, unless the Canadian government “mans up.” We need FOBs in the Canadian Arctic.

And we need a sub zero aviation platform that is dependable
in extreme weather conditions ( not the French Rafael now being touted by Canadian Ministry of Defence frogifried poofter puppies.):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_JAS_39_Gripen

http://www.saabgroup.com/Global/Documents%20and%20Images/Air/Gripen/Gripen%20product%20sheet/Gripen_SuccessStory_CZ.pdf


23 posted on 03/08/2014 10:36:45 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: 21twelve; TigersEye

Reagan had their number. The Russinas respected America then, because of strength. The Russians obviously have no respect for the Obama poofter puppy approach, which really hurts the West abroad, and hurts the world peace.

The USA needs to “speak softly and carry a big stick.”

Obama does not speak softly, he continuously campaigns like a raving lunatic.

Obama does not carry a big stick, and so has no way to
back up his lunatic ravings on the messianic international order which does not exist except in Obama’s mind.

You want to see what happens to an unarmed nation? Look at Tibet in 1948/1949, and later in 1957. It was annexed, invaded and now the Tibetan people are being bred out of existance. Thats the real world which Obama’s poofter puppy policy ignores.


24 posted on 03/08/2014 10:44:42 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: kearnyirish2

William of Orange was Dutch. George I was German—and German continued to be the working language for a number of generations.


25 posted on 03/08/2014 10:50:11 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: vette6387

He balances budgets too.


26 posted on 03/08/2014 10:52:26 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Squawk 8888

With 1.2 million Canadians of Ukrainian descent in Canada, the attention is understandable. I bet that the percentage of Americans of Ukrainian descent is much smaller. This is good politics in both the good and the bad sense of the term.


27 posted on 03/08/2014 10:57:18 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Candor7

I know Canada needs to toughen up, but I don’t think they will, that’s why I think the west needs to go and form their own republic.


28 posted on 03/09/2014 6:01:42 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: kearnyirish2

The American way....I don’t really know anything about Canada other than stereotyped nonsense......so make it up on the fly


29 posted on 03/10/2014 3:41:32 AM PDT by albertabound
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To: albertabound

“The American way....I don’t really know anything about Canada other than stereotyped nonsense......so make it up on the fly”

Is there an official residence for the English queen in Canada (the one on your money)?


30 posted on 03/10/2014 3:43:07 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
Is there an official residence for the English queen in Canada (the one on your money)?

Yes. Rideau Hall.

31 posted on 03/10/2014 3:58:48 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Thanks.

We don’t have one of those here in the US, we haven’t been ruled by England in 200+ years.


32 posted on 03/10/2014 4:01:47 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

We aren’t part of the British commonwealth.


33 posted on 03/10/2014 4:06:46 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

I think the commonwealth countries have more independence (and I mean this seriously; I am part Canadian and think it is a beautiful country).


34 posted on 03/10/2014 4:12:40 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Bulwyf

I know Canada needs to toughen up, but I don’t think they will, that’s why I think the west needs to go and form their own republic.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I will know when the toughening up is happening, because the feds will reactivate the CRHR ( Blackwatch) as a regular , non militia, regiment. But not holding breath.

Alberta should have separated from Camada during the Trudeau years.


35 posted on 03/10/2014 6:56:49 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

We have a meeting at the range tomorrow, I do believe we’re going to kick the RCMP out of it. One step anyways.

I still think Alberta and some other western provinces could go with a little education and some leadership.

Blackwatch was annihilated by the Germans if I remember my history correctly, I don’t think they’ll re-instate.


36 posted on 03/10/2014 8:16:19 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Blackwatch was annihilated by the Germans if I remember my history correctly, I don’t think they’ll re-instate>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not to worry. We are waiting for them to be upgraded from a militia batallion, but so far its been over 40 years since they were a full regiment in the regular CAF.

http://www.blackwatchcanada.com/

The Germans did not destroy them. Even the Trudeau pussie liberals failed to destroy them, although the libs tried real hard.Their militia still marches and serves.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 4:55:19 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Bulwyf

great to hear Bulwyf.


38 posted on 03/11/2014 5:01:09 PM PDT by roofgoat
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