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Paul Ryan: Give Leaders 'Benefit of the Doubt'?
blog.heritage.org ^ | 3/6/14 | Genevieve Wood

Posted on 03/07/2014 6:21:21 AM PST by cotton1706

Google the words “Republican Surrender.”

I stopped counting the number of relevant articles after page 10.

Google “Democrat Surrender” and by page 3, fewer than half the articles are about congressional Democrats surrendering on anything.

When your party has a large majority in the House of Representatives (the body in charge of approving new spending), enough seats (45) to play some hardball in the Senate, and a lame-duck opponent in the White House whose signature legislation, Obamacare, generates bad press daily, you would think a little courage might be in order.

But that is not where you find the party that has promised time and again to hold government accountable, rein in spending, repeal Obamacare, and reduce our growing debt.

Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI), trying to bridge the growing divide between the tea party and the D.C. establishment, told the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) crowd Thursday:

For the most part, these disagreements have not been over principles—or even policies. They’ve been over tactics. So I think we should give each other the benefit of the doubt. But we, your representatives—we have to earn this benefit of the doubt.

And that is exactly the problem for many conservatives. They have a hard time pointing to exactly where the elected officials Ryan speaks of have earned such a benefit.

Even on smaller issues, the GOP establishment has laid down arms, putting what it thinks is good politics before good policy. From refusing to reform student loans to cutting deals on corporate welfare programs like the Export-Import Bank, promises made to reduce the size and costs of government have been broken.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections

1 posted on 03/07/2014 6:21:21 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Sorry. We just doubt.


2 posted on 03/07/2014 6:21:49 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

We did. 2012 was the result.


3 posted on 03/07/2014 6:22:04 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: cotton1706
We already gave you the benefit of the doubt once, Pauly, and you stabbed us in the back.
4 posted on 03/07/2014 6:24:48 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: cotton1706

Republicans, in general, are politicians first and foremost. Their priorities are:

Self
Party
Constituents (See: Self)
Country

I’m disgusted, and beaten down. I realize no matter who I elect, I’m going to get the same garbage, because Republicans want “progressive” big government too. All I can do is protect myself, watch, and laugh at people as I say I told you so.

Oh, by the way, free traitors... I told you so.


5 posted on 03/07/2014 6:26:24 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: cotton1706
So I think we should give each other the benefit of the doubt.

No.

6 posted on 03/07/2014 6:27:06 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: cotton1706

And yet the Crat sycophants, even here, still cry out for “the lesser of two evils” approach to these progressives and their progressive party.

Do as you please people, I really don`t give a rat`s (or rat wanna be`s) ass what anyone thinks about this point: I will never again vote this way and if it means a Crat loses to a Rat, what the hell is the f-ing difference?


7 posted on 03/07/2014 6:32:16 AM PST by nomad
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To: nomad

BTW, we need a third party.


8 posted on 03/07/2014 6:33:59 AM PST by nomad
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To: cotton1706

Hey Ryan, the check you issued for more benefit of the doubt was returned from the bank marked “insufficient funds.”


9 posted on 03/07/2014 6:45:31 AM PST by McBuff
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To: cotton1706

Give our “leaders” the benefit of the doubt? I don’t think so - they’ve had that for a generation, and have totally blown any credibility that their mere presence in DC might have given them.

In case Ryan has forgotten, here’s what the GOPe has given us recently:

1976 - vociferously opposed Reagan, and Ford lost to Carter. JIMMY F’ING CARTER!! Stupid, incompetent country bumpkin who couldn’t even pronounce the word, “nuclear” correctly - this from someone who worked in the “nukear” sub force! Worst President EVAH (well, until 2009, that is). Thanks, GOPe, we really appreciate the crap economy and the weakness he provided us, along with giving yet another generation of liberal hangers-on the credibility of high-level fed.gov work on their resume, not to mention all the judges he appointed.

1980 - vociferously opposed Reagan - but the American people saw through it and elected him anyway. However, they saddled his administration with Bush the Elder.

1988 - Bush the Elder...remember “Read my lips, no new taxes!”???? We see how that worked out. Oh, and letting 500,000 of our guys sit around with their thumbs up their rear ends while watching Sadaam butcher the Kurds (whom we had given assurances of support to, in exchange for them revolting against Sadaam and diverting his troops from our fight).

1992 - Bush the Elder was such a disaster that we ended up with Klintoon.

1996 - Bob Dole. Really? That was the best you morons could do?

2000 - Bush the Younger. You know, I thought that he was a pretty decent President...until he signed off on Medicare Part D and other things to try to make the Lefties like him (like that’d ever happen). That, plus campaigning on not doing any “nation-building” like Klintoon, and proceeding to do EXACTLY that, in spades. We should have gone in there, destroyed everything, and left with a warning that “you camel jockeys had better make sure that we don’t have to come back again, because then we’ll be really pissed off.” Would’ve saved about 4,000 lives and many hundreds of billions of dollars. Guess what: while I certainly preferred him over any Dem, he was really a pretty mediocre President. Without 9/11, I think that he’d have followed in Daddy’s footsteps and been a one-termer.

2008 - McStain. Unphucking believable! No wonder we have this anti-American community organizer (I’m still trying to figure out WTF that is, besides a euphamism for “blackmail artist”), who would vote for a doddering old guy with zero charisma who cannot even articulate why we should vote for him besides “it’s my turn.”

2012 - Romney. Another hopeless cause. I think that he’d have made a decent President, but he was FAR from the best we had. A Republican that implemented socialized medicine and signed anti-gun legislation...REALLY?

PHUCK the GOPe. I am sick of their collaborationist policies. They just want to get elected to enjoy the power and prestige of the office; they’re no more in favor of small government than the Dems, but at least the Dems are honest about it AND HAVE THE COURAGE TO VOTE THEIR PROMISES.

Cruz in 2016. He’s a traditional conservative (just like Reagan), he can actually put several coherent sentences together in an understandable way and make his message understood, and he is a fighter for this country and his values. He will do what Reagan did - draw a very clear distinction between the Leftist view of the way things should work in this country and the AMERICAN view of the way things should work. This mealy-mouthed $hit that the GOPe spews to try to win the votes of Dems has NEVER worked!


10 posted on 03/07/2014 6:50:12 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: cotton1706

Stuff it, Paul Ryan.


11 posted on 03/07/2014 6:54:47 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: cotton1706

Maybe you’d get more hits if you spell “Democratic” correctly.


12 posted on 03/07/2014 7:11:05 AM PST by Aqua Buddhist
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To: cotton1706
Note to Rep. Paul Ryan: Why the hell should the feckless GOP be given ANOTHER chance? The GOP is NOT about to change their ways. They are part of the Uniparty of GOP elite RINOs and Marxist Democraps that intend to rule over Americans. If Paul Ryan won't be part of the solution — removing RINOs from power and influence — then he's part of the problem. He's certainly been acting as part of the problem lately.
13 posted on 03/07/2014 7:23:22 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: cotton1706

How many chances do you give these smarmy RINOs. No more, I’d say. My time & money ONLY go to Conservatives.


14 posted on 03/07/2014 7:24:40 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: nomad
BTW, we need a third party.

BTW, we need a second party.

15 posted on 03/07/2014 7:25:39 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: hal ogen

“How many chances do you give these smarmy RINOs. No more, I’d say. My time & money ONLY go to Conservatives.”

The chances I give them ended awhile back. I left my ballot blank for governor in 2010 here in MA. I would not reward moderate Charlie Baker with a vote. I left my ballot blank for US Senate in 2012. I would not reward moderate Scott Brown with a vote.

I did vote for John McCain and Mitt Romney because in my view, the executive power of the United States should not be placed in the hands of a democrat. But I didn’t like those votes one bit!


16 posted on 03/07/2014 7:30:10 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

In a word-

NO!


17 posted on 03/07/2014 7:42:58 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: nomad

“Do as you please people, I really don`t give a rat`s (or rat wanna be`s) ass what anyone thinks about this point: I will never again vote this way and if it means a Crat loses to a Rat, what the hell is the f-ing difference?”

Here is the difference. With a majority, you get to govern. Which means that people like Cruz, Lee, Rogers can bring up bills and get them to the floor for a vote. As the majority, the bills will not be tabled by the majority leader. As the minority, the bills get tabled and do not see the light of day.

We have a long way to go at the local level to get our candidates ready for the national stage. Think about it. We are expecting immediate gratification as the base while everyone else is years ahead of us in both resources and finances. It takes time and patience.

But the first goal is to win. Then make changes from the inside. Then slowly but surely take the party back. Do it that way and one day there will be 40 Ted Cruz’s in the senate. By the time the GOPe wakes up, it will be too late for them. It happened to the moderate Rats.


18 posted on 03/07/2014 7:44:12 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Oh please, spare the B.S.

Trent Lott handed over Leadership in the senate the very day he became Majority Leader.

The Majority of the Contract R’s elected back in 94-96 ended up being two faced liars and political whores. ONE of them was none other that SCAMNASTY pusher Johhny (The Weeper) Bohner.

Then there is Bitch McConnell who sold out Conservatives last fall for a 3 Billion dollar Pork Project, saying the real fight was in the upcoming Debt Ceiling debate. The two faced Snake then voted with his Whip John CornholeConservative Cornyn to vote for Cloture that brought to a floor vote an UNCONTESTED, no stings open ended budget that was passed on a party line vote.

Yeah, these are the people you actually expect to allow Cruz et al to forward Legislation when they are in charge, much less support or lobby for them?

Dude, you really need to check your compass.

I guarentee you the Minute McBackstabbing McConnell becomes Majority Leader he will turn around and change the rules back and allow the Democrats to run roughshot over the Majority. he will fight behind the scenes to push Amnesty and “tweek” Obamacare. He doesn’t have the spine to push repealing it. Hell, he can’t even muster the guts to vote against unchecked spending!

Anyone over 30 years old has seen this Movie, repeatedly.


19 posted on 03/07/2014 8:28:19 AM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: VRWCarea51

Hey, I am not disagreeing with you. I am just saying it is easier to work the system when you are in power than when you are not in power.

If you think leaving the rats in charge is going to bring about conservative change then more power to you. Last thing I want to do is go with the conservative in the primaries and the republican in the general. But until that primary challenger is a Ted Cruz and not a Richard Mourdock we are stuck in the liberal vortex that is taking this country down the drain and first and foremost we need to plug the drain.


20 posted on 03/07/2014 8:57:39 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: cotton1706

You got beat by the dumbest member of the US Senate. FU PR.


21 posted on 03/07/2014 11:43:42 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: nomad

Crat psychophants? Excuse me? We are trying to take back the Republican Party. It is the only viable option. We TEA people are the only group to successfully invade the upper eschelons of DC and we’re still cutting our teeth.

Division is succeeding in the nomination of unfavorable candidates. Romney wasn’t my first, second or third choice. Who can argue that he wouldn’t have been far better than four more years of this tyrant, lawless administration!

That was a critical election! Now it is doubtful we can save this nation. I’ll still fight for our Republic, but I’m not optimistic.


22 posted on 03/07/2014 5:58:00 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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