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The Real German Warning for Cold War II (Pat Buchanan)
The American Conservative ^ | March 7, 2014 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 03/07/2014 7:28:25 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo

In assessing the motives and actions of Vladimir Putin, Hillary Clinton compared them to Adolf Hitler’s. Almost always a mistake. After 12 years in power, Hitler was dead, having slaughtered millions and conquered Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals. And Putin? After 13 years in power, and facing a crisis in Ukraine, he directed his soldiers in the Crimea to take control of the small peninsula where Russia has berthed its Black Sea fleet since Napoleon. To the Wall Street Journal this is a “blitzkrieg.”

But as of now, this is a less bloody affair than Andrew Jackson’s acquisition of our Florida peninsula. In 1818, Gen. Jackson was shooting Indians, putting the Spanish on boats to Cuba and hanging Brits. And we Americans loved it.

Still, there are parallels between what motivates Putin, a Russian nationalist, and what motivated the Austrian corporal. Hitler’s war began in blazing resentment at what was done to Germany after Nov. 11, 1918. The Kaiser’s armies had defeated the Russian Empire, and the Italians at Caporetto, and fought the Western Allies to a stand still in France, until two million Americans turned the tide in 1918. When Berlin accepted an armistice on President Wilson’s Fourteen Points, not a single Allied soldier stood on German soil.

But, at Paris, the Allies proceeded to tear a disarmed Germany apart. The whole German Empire was confiscated. Eupen and Malmedy were carved out of Germany and given to Belgium. Alsace-Lorraine was taken by France. South Tyrol was severed from Austria and given to Italy. A new Czechoslovakia was given custody of 3.25 million Sudeten Germans. The German port of Danzig was handed over to the new Poland, which was also given an 80-mile wide strip cut out of Germany from Silesia to the sea, slicing her in two. The Germans were told they could not form an economic union with Austria, could not have an army of more than 100,000 soldiers, and could not put soldiers west of the Rhine, in their own country. Perhaps this Carthaginian peace was understandable given the Allied losses. It was also madness if the Allies wanted an enduring peace. Gen. Hans Von Seeckt predicted what would happen. When we regain our power, he said, “we will naturally take back everything we lost.” When Hitler came to power in 1933, he wrote off the lands lost to Belgium, France and Italy—he wanted no war with the West—but set out to recapture lost German lands and peoples in the East. He imposed conscription in 1935, sent his soldiers back into the Rhineland in 1936, annexed Austria in 1938, demanded and got the return of the Sudeten Germans from Czechoslovakia at Munich in 1938. He then sought to negotiate with the Polish colonels, who had joined in carving up Czechoslovakia, a return of Danzig, when the British issued a war guarantee to Warsaw stiffening Polish spines. Enraged by Polish intransigence, Hitler attacked. Britain and France declared war. The rest is history.

What has this to do with Putin? He, too, believes his country was humiliated and shabbily treated after the Cold War, and sees himself as protector of the ethnic Russians left behind when the Soviet Union came apart. Between 1989 and 1991, Mikhail Gorbachev had freed the captive nations of Eastern Europe, allowed the Soviet Union to dissolve into 15 nations, and had held out a hand of friendship to the Americans. What did we do? Moved NATO right onto Russia’s front porch. We brought all the liberated nations of Eastern Europe into our military alliance, along with three former Soviet republics. The War Party tried to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO, which was established to contain and, if necessary, fight Russia. Had they succeeded, we could have been at war with Russia in 2008 over Georgia and South Ossetia, and today over Crimea.

Now we hear new calls for Ukraine and Georgia to be brought into NATO. Are these people sane? Five U.S. presidents who faced far more violent actions by a far more dangerous Soviet Union—Truman, Ike, JFK, Johnson, Reagan—refused even to threaten force against Russia for anything east of the Elbe river. These presidents ruled out force during the Berlin Blockade of 1948, the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, the building of the Berlin Wall in 1961, the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968, and the smashing of Solidarity in Poland in 1981. Yet, today, we are committed to go to war for Lithuania and Estonia, Obama is sending F-16s to Latvia where half a million Russians live, and the War Party wants Sixth Fleet warships moved into the Black Sea.

If there is a Cold War II, or a U.S.-Russia war, historians of tomorrow will as surely point to the Bushes and Clintons who shoved NATO into Moscow’s face, as historians today point to the men of Paris who imposed the Versailles treaty upon a defeated Germany in 1919.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: americafirster; buchanan; nato
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More common sense from Buchanan. NATO has as much business on the borders of Russia as the Warsaw Pact would having Mexico as a member.
1 posted on 03/07/2014 7:28:25 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I personally think the whole thing is a waste of our time and just distracts us from our more important issues right here at home.


2 posted on 03/07/2014 7:31:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: All

We nominated the wrong man in 1992. And we’ve not elected an outstanding president since.


3 posted on 03/07/2014 7:33:21 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: cripplecreek

The real dangers we face are domestic and moral, not foreign.


4 posted on 03/07/2014 7:36:52 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

No, they are both. Especially since both are intertwined.


5 posted on 03/07/2014 7:38:02 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

9/11 wasn’t just a sideshow.


6 posted on 03/07/2014 7:41:46 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Our nation is collapsing, financially and morally. This is our battle and we are losing.


7 posted on 03/07/2014 7:43:22 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Basic cold, hard reality appears to be that the British started WW-II...


8 posted on 03/07/2014 7:43:59 AM PST by varmintman
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To: cripplecreek

Which means it is perfect for a president who needs to distract everyone from his domestic disasters and other foreign disasters. Beware of the coward in power, for he must needs be seen as being manly.


9 posted on 03/07/2014 7:48:22 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: Pecos

The Ukraine thing is something that a real president would have seen and worked to head off by diplomatic means.

Instead president Candyass sat in the White House sniping at Russia over gay rights.


10 posted on 03/07/2014 7:50:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

You can always trust Pat Buchanan to side with America’s adversaries. And this is probably the key factor that prevented him from gaining much traction with the GOP. It’s one thing to understand the other side’s motivations, but quite another to support their interests against America’s. But that’s what Buchanan’s been doing for decades now.


11 posted on 03/07/2014 7:53:02 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

“This is our battle and we are losing.”

It’s the American political character to not recognize a problem until it’s life or death. Until that point domestic squabbling is MUCH more important. What’s still at the top of Obama’s agenda? Obamacare, golf and vacations. (Oh, and anything for blacks, gays, Hispanics, etc.)

This has been okay when we were separated by oceans and months from any danger. Now, danger is just 26 minutes from any position you can name.


12 posted on 03/07/2014 7:53:31 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
1988..(NE lib.) GHWB, set about dismantling (almost) everything RWR did.
His "Thousand point of lights" was his beginning..
(he didn't do much to advance the goals of the Republican Party)

13 posted on 03/07/2014 7:53:58 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: cripplecreek
Or realized that doing anything meaningful was more than a tad out of reach and avoid embarrassing himself and the country. But then every time either of his Secretaries of State has opened her/his mouth, the country has lost a step or two on the world stage.
14 posted on 03/07/2014 7:54:14 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Precisely.


15 posted on 03/07/2014 7:55:16 AM PST by Olog-hai
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You can always trust Pat Buchanan to side with America’s adversaries.

Do you find being an idiot painful?

16 posted on 03/07/2014 7:55:48 AM PST by varmintman
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To: onedoug

If we had not elected asleep at the wheel internationalist meddlers since Reagan, I doubt 9-11 ever happens.


17 posted on 03/07/2014 7:56:18 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: skinkinthegrass
Depends on what the goals of the Republican Party were. Judging by the establishment's attack on Reagan back when he challenged Ford, those have not been typically conservative.
18 posted on 03/07/2014 7:56:39 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: varmintman

ibtz.


19 posted on 03/07/2014 7:57:05 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Now we hear new calls for Ukraine and Georgia to be brought into NATO. Are these people sane? Five U.S. presidents who faced far more violent actions by a far more dangerous Soviet Union—Truman, Ike, JFK, Johnson, Reagan—refused even to threaten force against Russia for anything east of the Elbe river. These presidents ruled out force during the Berlin Blockade of 1948, the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, the building of the Berlin Wall in 1961, the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968, and the smashing of Solidarity in Poland in 1981.

And I'll bet Palaeo Pat called them traitors and commies and beat the war drums every single time.

I'm not advocating US interference in the Ukraine/Russia impasse; I'm merely pointing out Pat's hypocrisy.

20 posted on 03/07/2014 7:58:25 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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