Skip to comments.Two choices in Crimean referendum: yes and yes
Posted on 03/07/2014 9:54:31 AM PST by gwjack
Voters in Ukraines Russian-occupied Crimea who vote in the March 16 referendum have two choices join Russia immediately or declare independence and then join Russia.
So the choices are yes, now or yes, later.
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There are some in this nation who, if they could, would use the same kind of ballot... I can see it now:
REFERENDUM ON OBAMACARE:
_______ I Support keeping ObamaCare.
______ Replace ObamaCare with a Single-payor system run by the Federal Government.
Ukrainian pot meet Crimean kettle.
Its not really like they want to vote for NOTA.
But either way, its clear Crimea is formally leaving Ukraine. Right now in practice, its already a de facto subject of the Russian Federation.
That’s called “Russian democracy”
Same choice as in USSR - Communist Party or ... Communist Party.
The Ukrainians are no better.
They haven’t even bothered with the pretense of a democratic election.
That’s the democracy the West so proudly backs.
Supreme Communist Party]
Glorious Communist Party
The local branch of United Russia will be opening shop once Crimea is under new management.
In Soviet Crimea, referendum chooses you.
?? There's election in May
Unless you're referring to overthrow of Yanukovich, or as Russians calling him , "the legitimate president". Sorry, passing dictatorial laws, kidnapping/torturing, and killing a hundred people, it kind of trumpets being democratically elected.
You seriously going to start defending this scumbag?
I believe GoldState is referring to the Ukraine never allowing Crimea a say in their fate during or after the break up of the USSR. I know that the Soviets moved so many Russians to the area to become the majority, evicting the locals, but there should have been some sort of self-determination. It is different than Southern California, or South Texas as the recognized government of the time forced most of the immigration and emigration.
Oh, in that case, I agree, they do have the right for self-determination.
For the previous 20 years, Ukraine and Crimea had a compromise. Crimea had an autonomy, it’s own parliament and constitution. Central government was not only staying out but was paying the Crimean bills. (ie. Crimean Revenues < Expenses, and differences covered by Kiev) The Russians are working on that Kerch bridge, but presently, Crimea is not a self-sustaining region. Almost all electricity, water, oil/ gas, and most of the tourists are coming from the mainland Ukraine.
In return, the leaders of Crimea were not to talk succession. It is true that most Crimeans want the country of Ukraine to have closer relations with Russia, but the percentage of those favouring to secede from Ukraine was very low, somewhere in the single digits. At least that was the case before this crisis, before the evil banderites got the power.
So it’s not a question of whether Ukrainians allowed Crimean to make their choice, Crimeans didn’t push for it. Ask and you shall receive, as the good book says. Before it all, the voices of those who wanted to secede were nothing but a murmur. Whether Russian military occupation will help Crimeans with self-determination - that’s a rhetorical question