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For First Time, Kremlin Signals It Is Prepared to Annex Crimea
The New York Times ^ | 03-07-2014 | Rick Gladstone

Posted on 03/07/2014 2:11:30 PM PST by PaulCruz2016

MOSCOW — Russia signaled for the first time on Friday that it was prepared to annex Crimea, significantly intensifying its confrontation with the West over the political crisis in Ukraine and threatening to undermine a system of respect for national boundaries that has helped keep the peace in Europe and elsewhere for decades.

Leaders of both houses of Russia’s Parliament said that they would support a vote by Crimeans to break away from Ukraine and become a region of the Russian Federation, ignoring sanctions threats and warnings from the United States and other countries that a vote for secession would violate Ukraine’s constitution and international law.

Even as tensions flared between Russian and Ukrainian forces in Crimea, the moves by Russia raised the specter of a protracted conflict over the status of Crimea, which Russian forces occupied a week ago, calling into question not only Russia’s relations with the West but also post-cold-war agreements on the sovereignty of the nations that emerged from the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; crimeacrisis; putin; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis

1 posted on 03/07/2014 2:11:30 PM PST by PaulCruz2016
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To: PaulCruz2016
Time for some pipelines to blow if I were Ukrainian.
2 posted on 03/07/2014 2:13:34 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PaulCruz2016
Looks like Putin has his own "reset button."

Bammy and Lurch, ineffective per usual.

3 posted on 03/07/2014 2:16:02 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: PaulCruz2016

They were going to annex Crimea the day they invaded.


4 posted on 03/07/2014 2:18:06 PM PST by Keen-Minded
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To: PaulCruz2016

Did they think Putin was going to just sit back and watch while Crimea was turned into a vassal of the EU following an illegal coup in Kiev?


5 posted on 03/07/2014 2:18:46 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: A CA Guy

The EU “leaders” would probably side with the Russians if that happened. We need to start aiding the Ukrainians ASAP with whatever they need to slow down the Reds, and at the same time start readying our own forces for war.


6 posted on 03/07/2014 2:18:56 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Better dead than Red. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: PaulCruz2016

By sponsoring the overthrow of Ukraine’s elected president by terrorists, Soros, Clinton, and Obama made all of this possible.

Obama stirred this mess up, and then proved incapable of handling the result.

As for handing over a province of a sovereign nation to invaders, the NY Times applauded Clinton when he handed Kosovo over to Albanian drug-smuggling Muslim thugs.

And George W. Bush sealed the deal. And every liberal was delighted!


7 posted on 03/07/2014 2:19:08 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Arthurio

Why are you pushing pro-Russian propaganda?


8 posted on 03/07/2014 2:21:02 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Better dead than Red. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

Why are you supporting pro-Kenyan propaganda?


9 posted on 03/07/2014 2:22:18 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: PaulCruz2016
threatening to undermine a system of respect for national boundaries that has helped keep the peace in Europe and elsewhere for decades

Just lay back and enjoy it.


10 posted on 03/07/2014 2:23:07 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Cicero

More Russian propaganda.


11 posted on 03/07/2014 2:23:51 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Better dead than Red. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: PaulCruz2016

For the first time?

Where have these people been?

Krushchev ceded Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 or 56. He was, after all, Ukrainian. Up to 1991, Crimea and even Ukraine were under complete control of the Russian-cum-Soviet empire for about 1000 years.

With the collapse of the Soviet Union and the formation of the CIS, Ukraine was allowed to “keep” Crimea, with the implicit understanding that the Crimea would always be under Russian control, for very obvious strategic reasons that even Lurch “Hossface” Kerry might be able to perceive.

With the emergence of the new Imperial Russia, the annexing of Crimea, and even Ukraine, was just a matter of time.

Nothing anybody can do about it, short of a nuclear exchange, primping and posturing by 0bummer and Lurch notwithstanding.


12 posted on 03/07/2014 2:25:22 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot
More Russian propaganda.

At least it's a change of pace from all the pro-EU, anti-Russia propaganda American media feeds us.

13 posted on 03/07/2014 2:25:56 PM PST by PaulCruz2016
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To: Westbrook
I'm not sure whether I care about the Crimea. It's certainly not in our hemisphere.

/johnny

14 posted on 03/07/2014 2:27:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: colorado tanker

No, Putin has a ‘Launch’ Button.
Obozo has a ‘Hope & Change’ Button....................


15 posted on 03/07/2014 2:30:49 PM PST by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: A CA Guy

“Time for some pipelines to blow if I were Ukrainian”

If the Ukraine did that I could see a full on Russian invasion and occupation of the entire country for economic reasons.


16 posted on 03/07/2014 2:34:26 PM PST by FAA
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To: Arthurio

Bingo.


17 posted on 03/07/2014 2:35:49 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

If you read my comment, you will note that I pointed out that Soros, Hillary, and Obama (via the CIA), sponsored, trained, and armed the Ukrainian revolutionaries who overthrew the Ukrainian government.

I did NOT say that it was nice that Putin has moved in and is taking over the country. I DID say that it was Stupid and his pals who set up the situation that enable him to, and even gave him considerable justification.

Typical of Obama to get involved in something like this but lack the brains to do anything when it failed.

As several have pointed out, Ukraine has a large Russian population, and a thousand years of Russian involvement. And Russia relies on Crimea for a warm-water port. The matter is nothing if not complicated.

All I was pointing out, however, is that Obama had a hand in creating this mess, but proved unable to deal with what he and his one-world cronies started.


18 posted on 03/07/2014 2:38:23 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Westbrook

Your fifth paragraph is highly debatable.

As long as the EU did not try to usurp the nominal independence of Ukraine, Russia would probably have been happy to leave things as they were. The Ukraine provided a buffer.

The Eurocrats are desperate for quick cash to slow down the inevitable collapse of their welfare state, however, so they worked to subvert the Ukrainian government.

Their gamble was foolish. Desperate men do stupid things.


19 posted on 03/07/2014 2:44:32 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

The truth is the truth, even when it makes Russia look no worse than France and Germany.


20 posted on 03/07/2014 2:46:28 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Westbrook

Russia isn’t in a gutless, estrogen-induced vegetable state like America is right now.


21 posted on 03/07/2014 2:51:46 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Arthurio

What is an illegal coup?


22 posted on 03/07/2014 2:54:42 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: A CA Guy

“Time for some pipelines to blow if I were Ukrainian.”

Europe buys about one-third of its gas from Russia’s Gazprom. 80% of it comes from Ukraine’s gas lines. Blowing up the lines would plunge a good portion of Europe into darkness. Much of that gas is used to generate power to industry. About 40% of energy generated in the industrialized world is used by buildings, including businesses. With no energy from Russia, the entire economy in Europe would collapse.

And, no, the Europeans can’t go in the backyard, unzip a seam of coal and cook dinner and warm their toes. They have embarked on a concerted effort to fight global warming by shutting down coal plants.


23 posted on 03/07/2014 3:20:36 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: PaulCruz2016

Take back the color blue.
Blue Spring
Free Washington
Free Cuba
FUN (F* the UN)


24 posted on 03/07/2014 5:07:55 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE!)
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To: Arthurio
Did they think Putin was going to just sit back and watch while Crimea was turned into a vassal of the EU following an illegal coup in Kiev?

Nope. Massive vote vote fraud and attempted assassinations have already been tried in the Ukraine. May as well annex the Crimea now and go for the Ukraine in due time.

25 posted on 03/07/2014 5:08:51 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Westbrook
Krushchev ceded Crimea to Ukraine in 1954 or 56. He was, after all, Ukrainian. Up to 1991, Crimea and even Ukraine were under complete control of the Russian-cum-Soviet empire for about 1000 years.

Nonsense. Crimea was conquered by Russia in 1774 (de facto) or 1783 (official). Crimea is economically and logistically dependent on mainland Ukraine and always has been. The Crimean Tatars -- the main residents of the area until Stalin deported them to Central Asia -- overwhelmingly oppose Russian anexation.

26 posted on 03/07/2014 7:55:21 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: FAA

Blood for oil? And the Left says nothing?


27 posted on 03/07/2014 7:58:56 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Keen-Minded
They were going to annex Crimea the day they invaded.

Shhhhh - hard for Bozo and company to act like it is an unexpected surprise if we demonstrate that anyone with a brain could see it coming before the first Russian troops started mobilizing.

28 posted on 03/08/2014 2:41:19 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: PaulCruz2016

29 posted on 03/08/2014 3:00:34 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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