Posted on 03/07/2014 4:40:24 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
Most Ukrainians were caught completely off guard by the state-sponsored brutality.
As an American who loves my counrty, I was unprepared for the brutality shown to the Branch Davidians at Waco. And am frequently reminded that nobody in government has really been held responsible.
Meanwhile, the UN and other lefty orginizations are working hard to prevent the trasnfer of small arms to people in need of them, like the Ukranians.
“government is in possession of more than seven million guns”
5 million are Mosin Nagants left over from WW2.
(and they need to send them to me!}
;)
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts
100:1 sounds about right. Maybe a little light on the civilian side but we're working on it.
Government snipers don't have to worry about counter-sniper fire. Until they do. And a deer rifle will suffice for that. BTT
Still they do not ‘identity’ who it is in the streets creating Chaos....am waiting for someone to tell it like it is....how about checking with the oligarchs the New Gov. put into city governing positions who have their own militia's creating chaos!
If the New Gov. can create enough chaos they can force further intervention (military) (and revenues) from Europe/Nato and the U.S. Next we'll be seeing body bags and crying mothers as we did in Egypt, Libya, Syria...demanding the US DO Something!
We can name this tune in one note!
The MP-27 is an o/u double barrel shotgun.
I did find this though, in trying to come up with
a match, read about halfway down to the conjecture
that the USMC is buying these as SAW replacements
just to get around congressional restrictions
on individual weapon replacement.
I hadn’t heard about this.
M27 IAR Infantry Automatic Rifle, as made by HK USA for US Marine Corps
Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 838 - 937 mm / 33” - 36.9”
Barrel length: 420 mm / 16.5”
Weight: 3.6 kg / 7.9 lbs empty
Rate of fire: rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds standard
The IAR - Infantry Automatic Rifle program was originally initiated by US Marine Corps (USMC) in an apparent intent to replace aging M249 SAW light machine guns in their “automatic rifle” (squad automatic) role. USMC sought lighter and more maneuverable weapon, still capable of at least some sustained firepower. Original contenders included guns from FN, Colt and Heckler-Koch, as well as some other, lesser known names. After extensive trials in 2009 USMC finally selected the HK IAR rifle, which, in fact, is no more that heavy-barreled version of their HK 416 automatic carbine (assault rifle), and it hardly looks like adequate replacement for a dedicated squad automatic weapon with belt feed and quick-change barrel. By all accounts, it looks like USMC played the whole IAR trick to get the replacement for their M4 carbines without entering the political hassle and budgetary debates. In May 2010 the USMC representative officially anounced the adoption of the Heckler-Koch IAR as M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle”. It is not clear when HK will begin delivery of the M27 rifles, and how much rifles will be delivered to USMC.
The M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle is a gas-operated weapon which is based on the HK 416 assault rifle. It uses short-stroke gas piston that operates the 7-lug rotating bolt, and fires from closed bolt. Receiver is made from high grade aluminum alloy. Combination-type safety / fire selector allows for single shots and full automatic mode. M27 IAR retains all M16-style controls, including last round bolt hold-open device, rear-based charging handle and magazine release button on the right side of the magazine well. M27 IAR is fitted with four Picatinny rails as standard, and may accept any type of sighting devices on STANAG-1913 compliant mounts. Buttstock is of typical M4 design, multi-position telescoped. M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle can feed from standard M16-type 30 round magazines, and will also accept high-capacity double-drum magazines from Beta Co (100 rounds capacity) and Armatac (150 rounds capacity).
At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason
~ nully’s son
Ukraine right now is a textbook case of why 3D printed guns are a positive thing. Print up a militia in a hurry, even behind enemy lines.
I’m sorry, I clipped this from
http://world.guns.ru/assault/usa/m27-iar-e.html
and didn’t think about the copyright, perhaps
it should be pulled.
t.
If I could send over a few crates of M1 Garands and M1 Carbines (plus M1911A1 .45s), I’d do it.
Ok, I just checked, it’s all from open sources.
Never mind.
t.
I’m not sure the technology is quite there yet but but it’s on its way for sure. I believe the Ukranians should be armed and prepared to defend themselves against tyranny as should everyone. I would not want to see them fall into a civil war however and it seems like that’s a real possibility.
Andrew Cuomo would like to psychotically scream at you...
"no one needs 5 million Mosin Nagants to shoot a deaaaaahhhhhhh!"
I think they do mean “MP27” here. When you visit that ss.ua site you have the option of translating the page and there are some of these o/u shotguns which are actually listed as 12 gauge “rifles.”
I don’t know if that’s a translation thing or what, maybe, but it’s also pretty clear the author doesn’t know very much about firearms or they’d have picked that up right away.
Take back the color blue.
Blue Spring
Free Washington
Free Cuba
FUN (F* the UN)
Now there’s gonna be a shortage of 7.62 x 54r and 7.62 x 39.
The Saiga-12 and 410 are not exactly assault rifles.
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