Posted on 03/07/2014 6:55:59 PM PST by Altura Ct.
Two participants in a panel on immigration at CPAC today expressed confidence in their closing statements that Hispanic immigrants will be a source of future votes for the Republican party. Latino voters are the Reagan Democrats of today, said Alfonso Aguilar, the executive director of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles. I believe that the majority of them can actually be members of CPAC in the future, concurred the Reverend Luis Cortés Jr.
The panel was supposed to answer the question: Can there be meaningful immigration reform without citizenship?
Derrick Morgan, vice president of domestic policy at the Heritage Foundation, was the only one of four panelists to basically reject the premise of the question, saying that he wasnt the best person to say whether legalization should include a path to citizenship since he didnt think that Republicans should be pursuing a policy of comprehensive immigration reform at all right now: I respectfully disagree with the policy of legalization with or without citizenship, he said, instead favoring a piecemeal approach, beginning with enforcement. He noted that the current laws are not being enforced so why would you trust this current administration to implement a deal?
Aguilar vehemently disagreed: Conservatives need to address immigration, and they need to do it now, he said, adding that our conservative base wants us to lead and legislate on the issue. Alfonso said that in addition to immigrants doing the jobs that Americans dont want, immigration creates good-paying jobs for working-class Americans.
Reverend Cortés declared that immigration is the only policy matter where God agrees with God, by which he meant, he explained, that all religious communities supported immigration reform even the Bahai.
The reverend warned that the Hispanic community is becoming alienated by Republican rhetoric on the issue, much like African Americans left the party of Lincoln due partly to rhetoric around civil rights. The Hispanic community is about less government, it is afraid of big government, he added.
At one point, Reverend Cortés took issue with Morgans use of the word amnesty. If you look it up in the dictionary it means forgiveness at no cost, he said, and it would not apply if someone comes forward and has to do recompense as he said Republicans are proposing to require of immigrants currently here illegally.
The fourth panelist, Helen Krieble of the Krieble Foundation, advocated for a large guest-worker program, and pushed for her organizations Red Card solution.
They STILL don’t get it! UGH!!!
I have long advocated closing the borders to unauthorized entries, illegal aliens deported, babies born to non-citizen copies do not receive US citizenship, all legal immigration cease until the actual unemployment drops below 5%.
However, there are Hispanics who have been legally in the US, some for many generations and are productive, patriotic and many are conservative. No, I am not Hispanic - an Anglo-Saxon all the way back to colonial days.
We have a boat in Ventura and the other day I was on top of it doing some work while the maintenance crew from our marina was redoing the dock next to it. Everyone left except one Mexican guy who has been here forever. He started talking to me. His parents came here legally through the Bracero program and stayed. He was ranting about the class of Mexicans coming here now and not working, living on their anchor baby freebies. He said they think he is stupid for working.
I don't know why you create this phony strawman about Hispanics as though I am attacking Hispanics--a term that was created in the 1970s--when I did nothing of the sort.
I have no doubt that "Hispanics" are like most Americans when it comes to being productive and patriotic. I will take issue with the characterization that many are conservative. Most are not. Poll after poll shows that.
I suggest you read Phyillis Schlafly's recently released study, How Mass (Legal) Immigration Dooms a Conservative Republican Party
"The Pew Research Center has found that 55 percent of Hispanics have a negative view of capitalism, the highest of any group surveyed. Pew also found that 75 percent of Hispanics prefer a bigger government providing more services, as do 55 percent of Asian Americans. This compares to just 41 percent of the general public. While the general public was divided in 2012 on Obamacare, 66 percent of Hispanics support it; and three times as many Asian Americans had a favorable opinion of the program as had an unfavorable opinion of it."
For this reason, Ruy Texeira of the liberal Center for American Progress observes that Hispanic opinions on the role of government are very much aligned with the Democratic Party.
"The data also do not support the notion that immigrants are social conservatives. Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute points out that it is not immigration policy that creates the strong bond between Hispanics and the Democratic Party, but the core Democratic principles of a more generous safety net, strong government intervention in the economy, and progressive taxation.
It is proof positive that anecdotal information is less than meaningful.
This is the sort of look at me I’m stupid thread far too common around here
Exit polls are easy to find
Legal or not....little difference
The old commie fleeing Latinos were the last right wing ones
They have died off
Turning 1% of white Dem or non voting electorate to GOP voters is same as turning 8-10% of brown Dem voters to GOP
Are folks here just too dumb...or weak about skin based facts
Good post. Very accurate summation.
Amnesty is for ever, and you gotta vote for the Republicans one more time, but just make it clear, If you pass amnesty, thats it. Its over. Then we organize the death squads for the people who wrecked America.
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