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Vietnam media: Navy confirms flight MH370 crashed into the sea [disputed account]
YAHOO ^ | 3/8/14 | Yahoo Newsroom

Posted on 03/07/2014 9:28:46 PM PST by barmag25

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To: DB

Shades of Air France 447 a few years back. At the time I think we were almost all thinking about a terrorist bomb, and in the end it wound up being a frozen pitot tube compounded by pilot error.

}:-)4


101 posted on 03/08/2014 5:01:58 AM PST by Moose4 (Sufficiently feisty.)
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To: Jeff Head

Every year at least one commercial airline flight crashes. That’s still an enviable safety record.


102 posted on 03/08/2014 5:09:47 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

It is amazing when you think that 24/7, every moment 50,000 planes are in the air, all over the globe.

That means there are about 500,000 people in the air at any moment!

Many of these flights are cargo planes, so my estimate is conservative...

50,000 X 10 = 500,000.

Other estimates would be higher. I tried to find data on number of passengers, and I found one hat aid the major US airlines have, on average, 120 passengers per flight. I reduced my number for small planes, cargo planes and military aircraft.

Still, we have a city of people airborne at any moment, globally!


103 posted on 03/08/2014 5:24:16 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Jeff Head

I would not rule out weather yet. While not the most likely cause of airframe failure, weather can kill a jet liner. Just the other day an airliner encounter clear weather turbulence that injured several passengers. The pilot on yesterday’s flight had 18,000+ hours so he was very good. But perhaps, like the doomed Air France plane, the copilot was in control while the pilot was elsewhere taking a break when bad weather struck.


104 posted on 03/08/2014 5:25:13 AM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Birdsbane

I remember. A friend was in the rescue/recovery party.


105 posted on 03/08/2014 5:25:37 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Alas Babylon!
...found one hat aid

found one that had...

Bloody touch screen typing.

16 years wishing Free Republic had an edit function.

106 posted on 03/08/2014 5:26:08 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: AppyPappy

“Plane crashes happen”

What is amazing is how rare they are anymore.


107 posted on 03/08/2014 5:31:57 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: doc1019
>>>If it is an Islamic thing, I’m sure someone or some group will claim responsibility soon, otherwise I will wait before making judgment. Problem with that logic is the Islamic logic, All is Allah's will! Of course, it's even worse when its muslims that are killed were the steady hardwired excuses start, blaming jooooos, Zionists to... Walt Disney! BTW, G.W. Bush is included too.
108 posted on 03/08/2014 5:32:46 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Lazamataz; All

I’m no MIHOP nutjob, but what you say is true so it begs the question: how were the victims of 911 able to make such calls from their respective planes? Over 10 years ago no less. I must admit that’s one question to which I’ve never heard a definitive answer.


109 posted on 03/08/2014 5:44:07 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: matt04
Good point. Either shot down or terrorism seen to be the most likely. It it not often planes break apart over the ocean on their own

While most airline crashes happen during or shortly after takeoff or during a landing or because of bad weather, it is not impossible or out of the question to suffer a sudden and catastrophic failure of some kind at altitude and or combined with pilot error (see Air France Flight 447).

http://www.airfrance447.com/

Aside from a sudden failure of the electrical systems, I’m also thinking of some sort of a rapid depressurization due to a failure of the integrity of the plane, i.e. metal fatigue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOAC_Flight_781

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243

While it is way too early to rule out any cause including terrorism, I’m not about to jump on “a plane crashed ; it must be an act of terrorism” bandwagon.

110 posted on 03/08/2014 5:47:11 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Jet Jaguar

Is Phu Quoc near Lon Gwan or Phuc Que?


111 posted on 03/08/2014 5:53:24 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: FourtySeven

Altitude, 911 flights had just taken off. Leave your cell phone on next time you fly and see when the signal drops off. But at 35,000 feet no cell phone signal will reach a ground tower unassisted.


112 posted on 03/08/2014 5:58:24 AM PST by 6AL-4V
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To: All

Scott Hamilton, guess on Fox News said he leans towards a “criminal act”.


113 posted on 03/08/2014 6:05:54 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: BlackVeil

Manpads can’t reach an airplane at 35,000. Or are you referring to the center fuel tank explosion, story?


114 posted on 03/08/2014 6:08:28 AM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: BeadCounter
We can't tell if it's a criminal act until we find the black boxes. If these boxes reveal a sudden stop in data recording, that is very scary, because only a catastrophic airframe failure can cause this--a major explosion, just like what happened to Pan Am Flight 103 in 1988.
115 posted on 03/08/2014 6:27:49 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: FourtySeven

Pentagon, they were WELL within cell tower limits. Probably same with tower planes. No mystery here.


116 posted on 03/08/2014 6:29:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: PhiloBedo
A MANPAD can't reach 35,000 feet. But the Russian 3M33 (SA-8 Gecko) surface-to-air missile can--and many 3K33 launch vehicles were sold to the Middle East during the 1970's and 1980's. It's possible that terrorists may have jury-rigged a launch system, including guidance radar, for the 3M33 missile so it could operate from a relatively small boat.
117 posted on 03/08/2014 6:30:53 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: BeadCounter

One person was flying on an Italian stolen passport...so you definitely cant rule out criminal act.


118 posted on 03/08/2014 6:40:04 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: 6AL-4V
911 flights had just taken off.

Not true for the one which crashed in Pennsylvania.

119 posted on 03/08/2014 6:56:42 AM PST by PAR35
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To: volunbeer
We still have several FReepers who think MANPADS and low-altitude anti-aircraft missiles can shoot down airliners at cruising altitude.

Or, be fired without lighting up the sky for miles around.

120 posted on 03/08/2014 7:16:04 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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