Skip to comments.CPAC MAKES NO ROOM FOR PRO-LIFE PANEL
Posted on 03/08/2014 4:57:24 AM PST by rhema
Pro-life leaders have noticed that not a single panel or specific speaker on life issues has been scheduled for the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), which is supposed to be the preeminent annual gathering of conservatives in America.
Pro-lifers note there are important panels on the IRS scandal, immigration, Common Core, privacy, gun control, and criminal justice reform--issues in which pro-lifers would be keenly interested. Pro-lifers generally pride themselves on being full spectrum conservatives; that is, supporters of the three-legged stool: economics, national security, and moral issues. So they would not complain about panels covering these issues.
But they note other panels on career counseling, methods of making friends, pot smoking, making posts go Upworthy, and even one on Vaccines vs. Leeches, and wonder if there is no room for a panel or two on life issues--issues that motivate a tremendous number of grassroots activists who also vote conservative.
In an age when religious freedom is under attack, they also note there isnt a single panel on the issue or a panel on traditional marriage, an issue that is roiling the country and will end up in the Supreme Court in the coming months.
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but CPAC has room for homosexuals, drug legalizers, atheists, and Chris Christie.
Are we going to have to leave C-Pac, too? or change it from within?
The frightened bunny party platform is a thin coat of paint to lure voters. Nothing more.
You two have nailed it. Another conservative group, coopted by what? Logcabin folks seemed to take over about five years ago, or is it ten now, and if moral issues are off the table then one must suspect that so called mainstream Republicans are really the takeover arteests.
CPAC obviously doesn’t know the importance of child sacrifice in regards to God’s management of nations. The only time God did not forgive Israel in the Old Testament was when they were sacrificing their children.
“The only time God did not forgive Israel in the Old Testament was when they were sacrificing their children”
When was that? I thought God told Abraham to sacrifice his son. I realize he stopped him but he did command him to do so and expected him to obey.
I have always had my doubts about C-PAC
the fact that Christie spoke there tells me
there is something going on that smells of
RHINO in conservative drag
CPAC is run by the ACU which is very establishment GOP friendly. That’s the problem right there.
Seems as though pretty much everything “conservative” is being infected by the RINO virus.
I left CPAC years ago. It was turning into a RHINOfest.
Barack Obama is the punishment. We will get more of this punishment if this keeps up.
Get a hold of the leadership and secretly make it appear as if the entire group is in your camp.
Worked for the Boy Scouts.
You will note that the MSM fell all over itself with favorable coverage of Christie, but ignored Cruz other than his denunciation of Dole, McCain. CPAC wants favorable MSM coverage.
Bingo. It is no longer an issue to be debated among conservatives.
Let’s wait until tomorrow to have ts discussion.
Chris Christie takes up a lot of room and that leaves no room for pro-lifers. What a mess.
This is a disgrace!!! And unrepresentative of US conservatism
Wanna bet? Not one speaker will reference the Democrat 2012 convention and their decision to remove any reference to God. Or that it was jeered at, when it was by chair decision to shoved back into their platform like Zerocare.
There will be not be even an oblique speculation to that decision why the democrats don’t believe in the 10 Commandments or why they are such liars. Part of the reason ? They’re letting the media set the agenda. The other reason is the same reason why there iis no Pro-life room at the Inn. The GOPES gop elite snobs are running the show.
I was at CPAC in 2008. I was somewhat surprised to hear enthusiastic chants chants of “John McCain!” and “Mac is back!” when the Copper State solon appeared at the supposedly conservative event.
Truth to tell, the pro-life movement is becoming a “victim”, as it were, of its own success. It has won, and is winning, battle after battle at the state level, where it matters most, and its great battles will happen at the political level, in rather dull budget fights.
So as long as you are winning, there is less and less need for publicity.
Thus the question becomes: are you content to win and continue to win; or are you more concerned with being in the spotlight, even if it works against what you want?
Some people cannot distinguish between the two, thinking that “raising public awareness” actually accomplishes something, when in truth, it does not.
Importantly, the issues being raised at CPAC are *not* winners, but are losers. They can be argued about in public because they are never going anywhere.
So the bottom line is to keep winning, and look forward to the big battles which are coming after both the next election, and after the next presidential election.
Imagine PP being cut off from all federal funding. No international funding. etc. Victories saving millions of lives.
When Mitch McConnell was given mic time that was it for me.
Huckabee filled the role as the resident social conservative. I particularly liked, “a society that sacrifices its own children is no better than the ancient Philistines”.
You know maybe some Tea Party spokesperson should challenge this in a rather blunt and over the top way. Let’s challenge that CPAC is possibly racist after all. Given that recent and past statistics show black and minority babies are aborted at higher percentages than white babies - since they chose not to include this pro-life segment, perhaps there’s a darker reason? Let’s see what happens then. If there was ever an area where blacks and whites could make common cause this is it. I have never understood this.
Here is the original letter:
Now, correct me if I am wrong, but I kind of figure you are about the most pro-life scientist that I know. So, it is you I need to call on for help.
In the Constitution for the Republic of Maine, there is a section that reads:
All life is precious, it is gift from God, and it begins at the moment of conception.
We are very serious about this, even to the point of defining age from the moment of conception, 9 months before birth. As an example; All natural born males upon reaching the age of 18, 17 years 3 months from birth, are automatically members of the Militia. We have defined natural born males as those who, at birth, have a penis and testicle(s).
What we now need is to be able to finish this statement; Life is defined as; ... We could also use a definition for conception, that would be so solid that no abortions will ever take place in the Republic of Maine.
****, If you can help on this, I would greatly appreciate it. ****, I know you are not, at this time, favoring secession, but read our guiding scripture:
11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that. 16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. (James 4:1-17 ****)
*****, to us that means that If God wills it we will be a free and independent country, regardless of what any man or govt wants or tries to do to stop it from happening. But, if on the other hand God does not wish that Maine be a free and independent Christian nation, then no matter what I or others do, it isnt gonna happen.
God bless, *****
The Doctor replied implying he would help, but couldn't till next week, below is the committee chairs response to the doctor.
*****, I do not need it for awhile, all involved in writing this new Constitution are in agreement that there will be no abortions done in Maine, none. We just want to make sure that the wording makes it so clear that no doctor would even consider performing an abortion. The penalty would be the same as that for any other first degree premeditated murder of a defenseless, trapped, incapable of defending him or herself human. Death by public hanging within five days of conviction, excluding Sundays.
****, Christians must have a place to come and be safe. ....
So Christians and Patriots, if you are looking for a pro-Life Christian nation to live in, perhaps you could adjust to Maine's winters.
Gee I guess you must be really enthusiastic about a Huckabee campaign then
Sick nation and a nation of fools. Sodom and Gomorrah is close at hand. Corruption in government and the nation is running rampant. Evil on the Throne - Good (decency & truth) on the Gallows.
‘A plague on both their houses.’
At the risk of sounding too negative... I actually think that what most conservatives want (I hope) is what they find within the fellowships of their churches - and therefore we will, in the future, probably only find it there. The lines between righteousness and unrighteousness are being drawn - that seems pretty obvious. In that battle, the only one that really matters, don’t look for the crowds. Devout, moral individuals are becoming more and more marginalized and the scapegoats for all of our culture’s ills. We are the “haters” because we have a standard based on Biblical morality and on that we will not compromise. Thankfully, we know how the End plays out and who the winners in life really are. But it’s going to get really dark before that happens. Look at all the Christians being killed right now throughout the world - mostly by Muslims. It probably won’t be long before that starts happening here.
God did not have the mens rea!
A perfect set up for a democrat win.
Movie Screening: "The Gift of Life" Sponsored by Citizens United - Chesepeake 4-6 - The Honorable Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas
Explores the sanctity of life as a moral issue, starring Governor Mike Huckabee
When was that? I thought God told Abraham to sacrifice his son. I realize he stopped him but he did command him to do so and expected him to obey.
Genesis 19:30-38 (NIV, © 2011) (after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah) 30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us childrenas is the custom all over the earth. 32 Lets get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father. 33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. 34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, Last night I slept with my father. Lets get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father. 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. 36 So both of Lots daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[g]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[h]; he is the father of the Ammonites[i] of today.
Ammonites, Moabites, Israelites and Phoenicians undoubtedly achieved their own cultural identities, and yet ethnically they were all Canaanites, the same people who settled in farming villages in the region in the 8th millennium BC.
Genesis 22 (NIV, © 2011) (Abraham is tested (near sacrifice of Isaac))
Exodus 22:29-30 (NIV, © 2011) 29 Do not hold back offerings from your granaries or your vats. You must give me the firstborn of your sons. 30 Do the same with your cattle and your sheep. Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day.
Some biblical scholars think that the 2 passages above suggest that child sacrifice was practiced among the earliest Hebrews.
Leviticus 18:21 (NIV, © 2011) 21 Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.
Leviticus 20:2-5 (NIV, © 2011) 2 Say to the Israelites: Any Israelite or any foreigner residing in Israel who sacrifices any of his children to Molek is to be put to death. The members of the community are to stone him. 3 I myself will set my face against him and will cut him off from his people; for by sacrificing his children to Molek, he has defiled my sanctuary and profaned my holy name. 4 If the members of the community close their eyes when that man sacrifices one of his children to Molek and if they fail to put him to death, 5 I myself will set my face against him and his family and will cut them off from their people together with all who follow him in prostituting themselves to Molek.
Deuteronomy 12:30-31 (NIV, © 2011) 30 and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same. 31 You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.
Deuteronomy 18:10 (NIV, © 2011) 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft,
2 Kings 17:17 (NIV, © 2011) 17 They sacrificed their sons and daughters in the fire. They practiced divination and sought omens and sold themselves to do evil in the eyes of the Lord, arousing his anger.
2 Chronicles 28:3 (NIV, © 2011) 3 He burned sacrifices in the Valley of Ben Hinnom and sacrificed his children in the fire, engaging in the detestable practices of the nations the Lord had driven out before the Israelites.
Tophet/ Gehenna was a place outside ancient Jerusalem known in the Hebrew Bible as the Valley of the Son of Hinnom,1 of the 2 principal valleys surrounding the Old City. In the Hebrew Bible, the site was initially where apostate Israelites and followers of various Ba'als and Caananite gods, including Molech, sacrificed their children by fire.
Ahaz was king of Judah, and the son and successor of Jotham. He offered his son by fire to Moloch. Manasseh was a king of the Kingdom of Judah. Manasseh was the 1st king of Judah who would not have had a direct experience with the Kingdom of Israel, which had been destroyed by the Assyrians in c. 720 BC and much of its population deported. He re-instituted pagan worship and reversed the religious reforms made by his father Hezekiah; for which he was condemned.
2 Chronicles 33:6 (NIV, © 2011) 6 He sacrificed his children in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced divination and witchcraft, sought omens, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the Lord, arousing his anger.
Jeremiah 7:31 (NIV, © 2011) 31 They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the firesomething I did not command, nor did it enter my mind.
Cross references:Jeremiah 7:31 : S 2Ki 23:10Jeremiah 7:31 : S Jos 15:8; 2Ch 33:6Jeremiah 7:31 : S Lev 18:21; Eze 16:20Jeremiah 7:31 : Jer 19:5; 32:35; Eze 20:31; Mic 6:7
Jeremiah 19:2-6 (NIV, © 2011) 2 and go out to the Valley of Ben Hinnom, near the entrance of the Potsherd Gate. There proclaim the words I tell you, 3 and say, Hear the word of the Lord, you kings of Judah and people of Jerusalem. This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Listen! I am going to bring a disaster on this place that will make the ears of everyone who hears of it tingle. 4 For they have forsaken me and made this a place of foreign gods; they have burned incense in it to gods that neither they nor their ancestors nor the kings of Judah ever knew, and they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent. 5 They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baalsomething I did not command or mention, nor did it enter my mind. 6 So beware, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when people will no longer call this place Topheth or the Valley of Ben Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter.
Ezekiel 20:25-26 (NIV, © 2011) 25 So I gave them other statutes that were not good and laws through which they could not live; 26 I defiled them through their giftsthe sacrifice of every firstbornthat I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the Lord.
Amos 1:13 (NIV, © 2011) 13 This is what the Lord says: For three sins of Ammon, even for four, I will not relent. Because he ripped open the pregnant women of Gilead in order to extend his borders,
To "enlarge one's borders" is a biblical metaphor applied not just to land, but to extend the boundaries of acceptable human conduct.
Micah 6:7-8 (NIV, © 2011) 7 Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of olive oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly[a] with your God.
Do you think God liked ordering His Only Son to die for us?
However, the LORD did not turn from the fierceness of His great wrath with which His anger burned against Judah, because of all the provocations with which Manasseh had provoked Him. And the LORD said, I will remove Judah also from My sight, as I have removed Israel. And I will cast off Jerusalem, this city which I have chosen, and the temple (house) of which I said, My name shall be there.
Surely at the command (mouth) of the LORD it came upon Judah, to remove them from His sight because of the sins of Manasseh, according to all that he had done, and also for the innocent blood which he shed, for he filled Jerusalem with innocent blood; AND THE LORD WOULD NOT FORGIVE. (All caps mine) 2 Kings 23: 26 & 27 and 24: 3 & 4
add post 43 to your list. :)
They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it - men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys. Joshua 6:21
Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about.” Genesis 22:2
And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD: “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.”
Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the LORD gave them into his hands. He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.
When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of tambourines! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh! My daughter! You have made me miserable and wretched, because I have made a vow to the LORD that I cannot break.”
“My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the LORD. Do to me just as you promised, now that the LORD has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.”
“You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and the girls went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. After the two months, she returned to her father and he did to her as he had vowed. Judges 11:30-39
There are speakers who are recognizably pro-life, such as Rick Santorum, Ralph Reed, Focus on the Family's Tim Goeglein, and Phyllis Schlafly who is speaking about Common Core. David Bossies movie on issues of life is running on day two of the conference. . . . There isnt a single panel or workshop dedicated to life issues or marriage, two key topics to social conservatives
But, mirabile dictu, there is room at CPAC for panels/workshops on monumental, titanic issues like ". . .career counseling, methods of making friends, pot smoking, making posts go Upworthy, and even one on Vaccines vs. Leeches."
Time for revolution, I'd say.
Yep just shows you can’t please everyone, so why try. Do your best
and let the displeased pout.
Assiduously, pointedly eschewing panels and workshops on two of the most important, talked-about, and litigated issues of our day is “doing your best”? I’d hate to see CPAC’s worst.
Well they can stand on the sidelines and complain or maybe they can get involved
with the decision making process thru American Conservative Union. In other words
go to the head and get involved enough to influence the process.